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barry says:

Originally posted by JamesD7:
that to stop ISIS we have to address there " legitimate grievance". FACT!
At least spell THEIR correctly. That alone makes it not worth having a discussion with you...I think it's pretty clear you don't have a strong understanding of context.
 
Originally posted by ddot7:
Originally posted by JamesD7:
that to stop ISIS we have to address there " legitimate grievance". FACT!
At least spell THEIR correctly. That alone makes it not worth having a discussion with you...I think it's pretty clear you don't have a strong understanding of context.
Sensitive much?
 
This is just plain silly. I'm not going to bother looking up that article in the Atlantic, but it's a great read. Based on this, we can see that negotiation with ISIS is not going to happen. They are forbidden by their version of Islam from seeking peace. If the calif does, he loses his legitimacy. He can make no peace treaties that last more than 10 years and has to be at war on at least one front constantly.

This is a HUGE weakness for ISIS. Stand back and let the Arab world crush them.
 
Originally posted by Edistoplayer:

who is Barry?
Barry is what butt hurt mitt lovers call president Obama when they are trying to compensate for their low self esteem
 
Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by Edistoplayer:

who is Barry?
Barry is what butt hurt mitt lovers call president Obama when they are trying to compensate for their low self esteem
How old are you?

Ugghhhh...gotta love the off topics that plague the board during the offseason...
 
Originally posted by ddot7:
Originally posted by JamesD7:
that to stop ISIS we have to address there " legitimate grievance". FACT!
At least spell THEIR correctly. That alone makes it not worth having a discussion with you...I think it's pretty clear you don't have a strong understanding of context.
Yeah, let's definitely focus on the use of their and there and not say a word about the POTUS saying that ISIS has legitimate grievances. Go back to sleep sheep.

Meanwhile, the POTUS also refuses to call them Muslim Terrorists and he plans to quadruple the number of Syrian refugees we're going to let in. I'm sure there won't be ANY ISIS trying to sneak in with the Syrian's.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/18/obama-refuses-to-acknowledge-muslim-terrorists-at-summit/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/18/state-dept-says-number-of-syrian-refugees-likely-to-quadruple/
 
Originally posted by SWUtigers:

Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by Edistoplayer:

who is Barry?
Barry is what butt hurt mitt lovers call president Obama when they are trying to compensate for their low self esteem
How old are you?

Ugghhhh...gotta love the off topics that plague the board during the offseason...
I am 41 and a half
 
I think President Obummer has an inferiority complex, because in the last 2 midterm elections, he has lost the most congress and senate seats of any 2 term president in the history of the USA. Wonder why? America is racist would be a bafoon's answer. The president is racist is part of the answer.
 
Originally posted by hopefultiger13:
This is just plain silly. I'm not going to bother looking up that article in the Atlantic, but it's a great read. Based on this, we can see that negotiation with ISIS is not going to happen. They are forbidden by their version of Islam from seeking peace. If the calif does, he loses his legitimacy. He can make no peace treaties that last more than 10 years and has to be at war on at least one front constantly.

This is a HUGE weakness for ISIS. Stand back and let the Arab world crush them.
I think the US and the West will have to play a supporting role in this. Primarily air support and logistics. Not to mention keeping the UN and the rest of the world off their back. But this things goes a lot smoother if the Arab world fights ISIS. It keeps it from becoming a "Islam vs the West" war.

And't don't get too picky about how they do it. Some areas of the world need "brutal dictators". Iraq and Syria are apparently two of these areas.
 
Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by SWUtigers:

Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by Edistoplayer:

who is Barry?
Barry is what butt hurt mitt lovers call president Obama when they are trying to compensate for their low self esteem
How old are you?

Ugghhhh...gotta love the off topics that plague the board during the offseason...
I am 41 and a half
Doesn't sound like it. So calling Barry a pansy is just folks' way of compensating for low self esteem?

Makes sense.

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Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by SWUtigers:

Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by Edistoplayer:

who is Barry?
Barry is what butt hurt mitt lovers call president Obama when they are trying to compensate for their low self esteem
How old are you?

Ugghhhh...gotta love the off topics that plague the board during the offseason...
I am 41 and a half
Yikes. Prayers sent.
 
Most congress and senate seats list ever. Wow!
 
Originally posted by lherndo:

Originally posted by ddot7:

Originally posted by JamesD7:
that to stop ISIS we have to address there " legitimate grievance". FACT!
At least spell THEIR correctly. That alone makes it not worth having a discussion with you...I think it's pretty clear you don't have a strong understanding of context.
Yeah, let's definitely focus on the use of their and there and not say a word about the POTUS saying that ISIS has legitimate grievances. Go back to sleep sheep.

Meanwhile, the POTUS also refuses to call them Muslim Terrorists and he plans to quadruple the number of Syrian refugees we're going to let in. I'm sure there won't be ANY ISIS trying to sneak in with the Syrian's.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/18/obama-refuses-to-acknowledge-muslim-terrorists-at-summit/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/18/state-dept-says-number-of-syrian-refugees-likely-to-quadruple/
I am very much a conservative and have voted as such for almost all of my life. The only democrat I've ever voted for (at any level)was Jimmy Carter for president (I know, a big mistake), but I was 18 and wanted a "southerner" in the white house, even if he was democrat.

That being said, this kind of post scares the hell out of me. Do you actually believe that our president supports terrorism? That is the farthest from the truth. You (and I) may not like Obama for his stance on domestic policy, but he's not going to support terrorism or take any action on foreign policy that, in his opinion, is contrary to the interest of the US and its citizens. You need to step back from the ledge and understand that half of what Rush Limbaugh spouts is right wing BS no different than Al Sharpton with his left wing BS. To them it is all about stirring up controversy to get public and media attention, and ultimately to get paid.

If we have to opportunity to take out ISIS, I have no doubt that we will, regardless who the president is. Also, if you have trouble knowing the difference between "there" and "their," you should not be posting positions on US foreign policy, IMHO.
 
Originally posted by SWUtigers:

Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by SWUtigers:

Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by Edistoplayer:

who is Barry?
Barry is what butt hurt mitt lovers call president Obama when they are trying to compensate for their low self esteem
How old are you?

Ugghhhh...gotta love the off topics that plague the board during the offseason...
I am 41 and a half
Yikes. Prayers sent.
No sense in even responding or talking with people who support so vigorously someone who is clearly on the far left of liberalism.
 
Originally posted by MKOTiger:


Originally posted by lherndo:

Originally posted by ddot7:

Originally posted by JamesD7:
that to stop ISIS we have to address there " legitimate grievance". FACT!
At least spell THEIR correctly. That alone makes it not worth having a discussion with you...I think it's pretty clear you don't have a strong understanding of context.
Yeah, let's definitely focus on the use of their and there and not say a word about the POTUS saying that ISIS has legitimate grievances. Go back to sleep sheep.

Meanwhile, the POTUS also refuses to call them Muslim Terrorists and he plans to quadruple the number of Syrian refugees we're going to let in. I'm sure there won't be ANY ISIS trying to sneak in with the Syrian's.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/18/obama-refuses-to-acknowledge-muslim-terrorists-at-summit/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/18/state-dept-says-number-of-syrian-refugees-likely-to-quadruple/
I am very much a conservative and have voted as such for almost all of my life. The only democrat I've ever voted for (at any level)was Jimmy Carter for president (I know, a big mistake), but I was 18 and wanted a "southerner" in the white house, even if he was democrat.

That being said, this kind of post scares the hell out of me. Do you actually believe that our president supports terrorism? That is the farthest from the truth. You (and I) may not like Obama for his stance on domestic policy, but he's not going to support terrorism or take any action on foreign policy that, in his opinion, is contrary to the interest of the US and its citizens. You need to step back from the ledge and understand that half of what Rush Limbaugh spouts is right wing BS no different than Al Sharpton with his left wing BS. To them it is all about stirring up controversy to get public and media attention, and ultimately to get paid.

If we have to opportunity to take out ISIS, I have no doubt that we will, regardless who the president is. Also, if you have trouble knowing the difference between "there" and "their," you should not be posting positions on US foreign policy, IMHO.
Where in his post did he say that? He linked legitimate news sources to provide a valid point while you incoherently rambled about your past voting record. I think it's obvious that our POTUS continues to portray (at least publicly) a very passive stance against an extremely dangerous and unique terror threat. I think that worries a lot of folks and rightly so.
 
Everyone ITT, and just about every other thread on politics, whether on the left or the right all sound like children. Just like he politicians, you can't get past your political affiliation to get down to the real issue. Neither side seems able to admit mistakes, and blames everything other. Threads are nothing more than pointless fanboy flames.
 
Originally posted by GilaMonsta:
Everyone ITT, and just about every other thread on politics, whether on the left or the right all sound like children. Just like he politicians, you can't get past your political affiliation to get down to the real issue. Neither side seems able to admit mistakes, and blames everything other. Threads are nothing more than pointless fanboy flames.
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Originally posted by casellers84:


Originally posted by MKOTiger:



Originally posted by lherndo:


Originally posted by ddot7:


Originally posted by JamesD7:
that to stop ISIS we have to address there " legitimate grievance". FACT!
At least spell THEIR correctly. That alone makes it not worth having a discussion with you...I think it's pretty clear you don't have a strong understanding of context.
Yeah, let's definitely focus on the use of their and there and not say a word about the POTUS saying that ISIS has legitimate grievances. Go back to sleep sheep.

Meanwhile, the POTUS also refuses to call them Muslim Terrorists and he plans to quadruple the number of Syrian refugees we're going to let in. I'm sure there won't be ANY ISIS trying to sneak in with the Syrian's.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/18/obama-refuses-to-acknowledge-muslim-terrorists-at-summit/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/18/state-dept-says-number-of-syrian-refugees-likely-to-quadruple/
I am very much a conservative and have voted as such for almost all of my life. The only democrat I've ever voted for (at any level)was Jimmy Carter for president (I know, a big mistake), but I was 18 and wanted a "southerner" in the white house, even if he was democrat.

That being said, this kind of post scares the hell out of me. Do you actually believe that our president supports terrorism? That is the farthest from the truth. You (and I) may not like Obama for his stance on domestic policy, but he's not going to support terrorism or take any action on foreign policy that, in his opinion, is contrary to the interest of the US and its citizens. You need to step back from the ledge and understand that half of what Rush Limbaugh spouts is right wing BS no different than Al Sharpton with his left wing BS. To them it is all about stirring up controversy to get public and media attention, and ultimately to get paid.

If we have to opportunity to take out ISIS, I have no doubt that we will, regardless who the president is. Also, if you have trouble knowing the difference between "there" and "their," you should not be posting positions on US foreign policy, IMHO.
Where in his post did he say that? He linked legitimate news sources to provide a valid point while you incoherently rambled about your past voting record. I think it's obvious that our POTUS continues to portray (at least publicly) a very passive stance against an extremely dangerous and unique terror threat. I think that worries a lot of folks and rightly so.
My point was that there (not their) are idiots on both sides. Our POTUS has made a lot of decisions I don't agree with, but I don't believe he is intentionally (or unintentionally) letting ISIS terrorists into our country.

It's unfortunate that some people let political affiliation blind them. I assume you know where you fall.
 
Originally posted by MKOTiger:
Originally posted by casellers84:


Originally posted by MKOTiger:



Originally posted by lherndo:


Originally posted by ddot7:


Originally posted by JamesD7:
that to stop ISIS we have to address there " legitimate grievance". FACT!
At least spell THEIR correctly. That alone makes it not worth having a discussion with you...I think it's pretty clear you don't have a strong understanding of context.
Yeah, let's definitely focus on the use of their and there and not say a word about the POTUS saying that ISIS has legitimate grievances. Go back to sleep sheep.

Meanwhile, the POTUS also refuses to call them Muslim Terrorists and he plans to quadruple the number of Syrian refugees we're going to let in. I'm sure there won't be ANY ISIS trying to sneak in with the Syrian's.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/18/obama-refuses-to-acknowledge-muslim-terrorists-at-summit/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/18/state-dept-says-number-of-syrian-refugees-likely-to-quadruple/
I am very much a conservative and have voted as such for almost all of my life. The only democrat I've ever voted for (at any level)was Jimmy Carter for president (I know, a big mistake), but I was 18 and wanted a "southerner" in the white house, even if he was democrat.

That being said, this kind of post scares the hell out of me. Do you actually believe that our president supports terrorism? That is the farthest from the truth. You (and I) may not like Obama for his stance on domestic policy, but he's not going to support terrorism or take any action on foreign policy that, in his opinion, is contrary to the interest of the US and its citizens. You need to step back from the ledge and understand that half of what Rush Limbaugh spouts is right wing BS no different than Al Sharpton with his left wing BS. To them it is all about stirring up controversy to get public and media attention, and ultimately to get paid.

If we have to opportunity to take out ISIS, I have no doubt that we will, regardless who the president is. Also, if you have trouble knowing the difference between "there" and "their," you should not be posting positions on US foreign policy, IMHO.
Where in his post did he say that? He linked legitimate news sources to provide a valid point while you incoherently rambled about your past voting record. I think it's obvious that our POTUS continues to portray (at least publicly) a very passive stance against an extremely dangerous and unique terror threat. I think that worries a lot of folks and rightly so.
My point was that there (not their) are idiots on both sides. Our POTUS has made a lot of decisions I don't agree with, but I don't believe he is intentionally (or unintentionally) letting ISIS terrorists into our country.

It's unfortunate that some people let political affiliation blind them. I assume you know where you fall.
I disagree with a passive stance on terrorism (particularly of the violent nature) that's both threatening domestic and abroad. If that's "blind political affiliation" then so be it.
 
Barry is what they called him at his Muslim school in Turkey or wherever he was in grammar school. Therefore, while childish certainly not outlandish to call him Barry.
 
OP did you actually read the context in which the President uttered those two words?

I read the whole thing. He didn't rationalize terrorism. He basically said, in a nice way, that poor, uneducated, ignorant people who have no hope are being suckered into thinking this Jihad crap is the only way to legitimize their pathetic existence in life.

Basically power/money hungry bad guys like Al-Q and nut job religious zealots like ISIS are both feeding on the same thing...and ignorant group of poor folk begging for a reason to live.

The "legitimate grievance" is the fact that these poor (I mean they have not money) suckers blowing up themselves or sawing off heads don't have much to live for, so they are low hanging fruit. I think our Prez was just highlighting the truth......we can destroy ISIS, but with no sound government, no stable economy, no education, then another crazy group will fill the void......and the new group will cite the US's destruction of ISIS and constant intervention over there as the reason for more zealotry......it's a never ending cycle and we can't learn our lesson.

I truly feel sorry for you people that think that there is a clear right/wrong way to deal with such a complex issue. Somehow blowing everybody up will fix it.

The need for your side to be right clouds your ability to even examine an issue. Quit making it political.



This post was edited on 2/19 11:22 AM by tigerjl
 
O.K. now I have to respond to being called an idiot!? So I F#cked and used there instead of their. Sue me Biachhe!! like that spelling? KNOW where, oohhpps, I mean no wear, dam, I mean no where did I express an opinion on US policy, foreign or otherwise. Nor did I reference Rush in my post! What I said came from someone who sounded a lot like barry. I am not saying it was him, ( You know we should not make assumptions based on what we hear, lest it make an ass out of u and me). However, it was a dam... I mean damn good impression of him! I am sorry my post scared the hell out of some of you, but if you want to call me an idiot I will gladly provide u with contact info so you can call me an idiot in person.
 
Originally posted by tigerjl:
OP did you actually read the context in which the President uttered those two words?

I read the whole thing. He didn't rationalize terrorism. He basically said, in a nice way, that poor, uneducated, ignorant people who have no hope are being suckered into thinking this Jihad crap is the only way to legitimize their pathetic existence in life.

Basically power/money hungry bad guys like Al-Q and nut job religious zealots like ISIS are both feeding on the same thing...and ignorant group of poor folk begging for a reason to live.

The "legitimate grievance" is the fact that these poor (I mean they have not money) suckers blowing up themselves or sawing off heads don't have much to live for, so they are low hanging fruit. I think our Prez was just highlighting the truth......we can destroy ISIS, but with no sound government, no stable economy, no education, then another crazy group will fill the void......and the new group will cite the US's destruction of ISIS and constant intervention over there as the reason for more zealotry......it's a never ending cycle and we can't learn our lesson.

I truly feel sorry for you people that think that there is a clear right/wrong way to deal with such a complex issue. Somehow blowing everybody up will fix it.

The need for your side to be right clouds your ability to even examine an issue. Quit making it political.



This post was edited on 2/19 11:22 AM by tigerjl
ISIS is a completely different terrorist cell and its' nothing like we've seen in our lifetime. The POTUS' remarks are out of touch and completely antiquated. And before I get accused of towing "party lines" again, I am economically conservative and socially liberal and vote Libertarian.
 
Tiger, yes I read it all and your point is well taken as such. My point is two fold in this response. First you are correct that the suicide bomber's and such are for the most part uneducated poor who are recruited for that reason. Maybe if we bring western job' and culture to them we could thwart the flow of suicide attacks. however, isis or isil or whatever they are going by now is incredibly well financed. There, ooohhhhps, their, leadership is very well educated. This is not a bunch high school drop outs who had nothing to do and because they were poor and uneducated and bored decided to start Jihad. My second point is about what exactly are you trying to say the president's point was in saying what he did?
 
Originally posted by 11tigers11:
Don't blame me, the OP set the childish tone by calling our POTUS 'Barry'
is "Barry" any more childish than "W"?
Did "W" upset you, as well?
 
Originally posted by chassc:

Originally posted by 11tigers11:
Don't blame me, the OP set the childish tone by calling our POTUS 'Barry'
is "Barry" any more childish than "W"?
Did "W" upset you, as well?
Not really, I was more concerned about the people he was waging war on for weapons they didn't have....
 
I wish I could say for sure that the president was not supporting the bad guys. The fact that I wouldn't bet my life it actually scary
 
Originally posted by JamesD7:
O.K. now I have to respond to being called an idiot!? So I F#cked and used there instead of their. Sue me Biachhe!! like that spelling? KNOW where, oohhpps, I mean no wear, dam, I mean no where did I express an opinion on US policy, foreign or otherwise. Nor did I reference Rush in my post! What I said came from someone who sounded a lot like barry. I am not saying it was him, ( You know we should not make assumptions based on what we hear, lest it make an ass out of u and me). However, it was a dam... I mean damn good impression of him! I am sorry my post scared the hell out of some of you, but if you want to call me an idiot I will gladly provide u with contact info so you can call me an idiot in person.
An uneducated individuals attempts at "Trolling" this is what happens. Read the whole article slowly, then come back and put it into full context without the BS.
 
Not really, I was more concerned about the people he was waging war on for weapons they didn't have...



Looks like George Bush's actions were strongly supported by Obama's current and former Secretary of State:



"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


This post was edited on 2/19 1:22 PM by Tmassen1
 
Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by SWUtigers:

Originally posted by 11tigers11:

Originally posted by Edistoplayer:

who is Barry?
Barry is what butt hurt mitt lovers call president Obama when they are trying to compensate for their low self esteem
How old are you?

Ugghhhh...gotta love the off topics that plague the board during the offseason...
I am 41 and a half


41 and you use "butt hurt"…I don't believe you.
 
Originally posted by Tmassen1:

Not really, I was more concerned about the people he was waging war on for weapons they didn't have...



Looks like George Bush's actions were strongly supported by Obama's current and former Secretary of State:



"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


This post was edited on 2/19 1:22 PM by Tmassen1
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Na alum. I am sorry I started this shittstorm. Chris or larry or a moderator please lock this down and if you can delete the whole thing please do! This is not the place for this and I am sorry I started it. I love all my Tiger brethren. Period! I will never start a thread again about anything but CLEMSON! GO TIGERS!!!!
 
Originally posted by Trading Tiger:


Originally posted by 11tigers11:


Originally posted by SWUtigers:


Originally posted by 11tigers11:


Originally posted by Edistoplayer:

who is Barry?
Barry is what butt hurt mitt lovers call president Obama when they are trying to compensate for their low self esteem
How old are you?

Ugghhhh...gotta love the off topics that plague the board during the offseason...
I am 41 and a half


41 and you use "butt hurt"…I don't believe you.
my child like behavior goes way deeper than "butt hurt"
 
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