This defeats a lot of what's being said but it matters and these people are not being represented in all this.
A entry into the current narrative that should be considered
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Blacks are 13% of the population yet commit a far higher percentage of crime than their population size, which naturally gives them a much higher probability on a per capita basis to interact or come into contact with police.
According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites(including White Latino) at 45.3%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost 8 times higher than Whites and Latinos.
A 2004 National Crime Victimization Survey report which analyzed carjacking over 10 years found that carjacking victims identified 56% of offenders as black, 21% as white, and 16% as Native American or Asian.
So as you can see Blacks are committing crimes, including violent crimes and other crimes at a disproportionate rate than any other race, which inevitably leads to a much higher contact rate with police.
Blacks make up 50% of the crimes committed in the USA yet only represent 25% of the cases of police killings.
So when people quote statistics with context, then this is the context you should present. There is no systemic racist police system killing Blacks for being black. The empirical data does not support this claim...This is a fiction of the mainstream media.
According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites(including White Latino) at 45.3%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost 8 times higher than Whites and Latinos.
A 2004 National Crime Victimization Survey report which analyzed carjacking over 10 years found that carjacking victims identified 56% of offenders as black, 21% as white, and 16% as Native American or Asian.
So as you can see Blacks are committing crimes, including violent crimes and other crimes at a disproportionate rate than any other race, which inevitably leads to a much higher contact rate with police.
Blacks make up 50% of the crimes committed in the USA yet only represent 25% of the cases of police killings.
So when people quote statistics with context, then this is the context you should present. There is no systemic racist police system killing Blacks for being black. The empirical data does not support this claim...This is a fiction of the mainstream media.
I don' t know the percentages, but there are black police officers who are involved in some of those negative interactions with black citizens, I would have to assume. By definition they can't be racist against other blacks so that hits the narrative even further.
Police brutality, training, use of force, mental screening and mental health services for police, minority representation on police forces, militarization of the police... all worthy topics for discussion IMHO.
Kind of interesting that posts moved off the other forum are against the BLM haters. Coincedence I guess.
Cool so cops killing all kinds of folks. Can we agree to stop the war on drugs, end the militarization of the cops and also reroute some of their funding to social workers, councilors and teachers instead?
How about stop focusing on fighting people over their protests and working with your fellow man on actual solutions?
How about stop focusing on fighting people over their protests and working with your fellow man on actual solutions?
No. I can't agree. I don't want drugs, violence, looting, burning in my neighborhood. My wife is a teacher in an area that is underprivileged. We have enough $$ going to help this demographic. How about focusing on encouraging a nuclear family. How about more aggresssive segregation of kids who don't want to learn from those that do.
This. We hear about PTSD for soliders. Has anyone ever done a study on it for police? I imagine a police officer for the NYPD or LAPD would have seen some crazy shvt in his/her time.
Remember two things about cops:
1) Most of their interactions are with people who broke the law at some level, or are at least accused of it. So it isn't like they are happy to see each other.
2) Nobody is ever happy about being arrested.
This doesn't excuse some of what is happening. The Floyd murder is abhorrent. So are others.
But putting that aside, humans are human. I think several PDs are working their officers on 12 hour shifts with no days off. And they don't expect any problems.....
Idiots.
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There are a lot of things we could do to help with this problem. What we're doing now is the exact opposite of that. As grievous as all the things we've seen are, the reality is this. If these folks hadn't resisted arrest and had been compliant, 100% of them would be alive today.
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