A mileage-based tax coming for EV's

[Clemson Goat]

One state is considering a mileage-based EV tax – here's why that's a bad idea

Lawmakers in Vermont are gearing up for a mileage-based EV tax – there are better ways to raise funds for roads and infrastructure.

electrek.co

 

[BlueRidgedf]

This is what is going to happen in most liberal states. They got to make up for the loss in the gas taxes. The more conservative states will follow in time.

 

[CUT93]

It is perfectly logical. The people using the roads need to pay for them. With the push towards ev, it's crazy to keep funding road maintenance purely from a gas tax.
Also, the point about burdening poor people is stupid. If you are indeed poor, you are not spending an extra $10K to get an EV.

 

[Jjh7]

oh look at that government is finally learning incentivizing people away from a commodity they heavily tax has shockingly resulted in lower tax revenues from that commodity. but obviously since government does so much good and already spends every other dollar effectively, they simply cannot operate without that lost revenue and must force people to make them whole....as if it's society's job to serve govt and not the other way around.

 

[dbjork6317]

oh look at that government is finally learning incentivizing people away from a commodity they heavily tax has shockingly resulted in lower tax revenues from that commodity. but obviously since government does so much good and already spends every other dollar effectively, they simply cannot operate without that lost revenue and must force people to make them whole....as if it's society's job to serve govt and not the other way around.

Literally complaining about having roads now

 

[Clemson Goat]

It is perfectly logical. The people using the roads need to pay for them. With the push towards ev, it's crazy to keep funding road maintenance purely from a gas tax.
Also, the point about burdening poor people is stupid. If you are indeed poor, you are not spending an extra $10K to get an EV.

Once all vehicles being manufactured are EV's then the poor/middle class has no choice. Isn't 2035 the goal to be completely switched over.

It will be interesting to see how the federal government recoups their gas tax money .

 

[hopefultiger13]

Not sure what's wrong here, besides the usual moaning and groaning on taxes. You pay a gas tax now for traveling on roads to pay for their upkeep. With EVs you are going to pay a tax for the miles you spend using the roads to pay for their upkeep. Seems like just about the same thing.

 

[yoshi121374]

Not sure what's wrong here, besides the usual moaning and groaning on taxes. You pay a gas tax now for traveling on roads to pay for their upkeep. With EVs you are going to pay a tax for the miles you spend using the roads to pay for their upkeep. Seems like just about the same thing.

What's funny is these same people want a National sales tax which is literally a consumption tax. Cigarette taxes have largely helped reduce smoking by making it financially punitive for people to harm themselves.

 

[Clemson Goat]

Not sure what's wrong here, besides the usual moaning and groaning on taxes. You pay a gas tax now for traveling on roads to pay for their upkeep. With EVs you are going to pay a tax for the miles you spend using the roads to pay for their upkeep. Seems like just about the same thing.

Not bitching just pointing out eventually EV owners will pay a mileage tax .

Duke Power has already tried/talked about adding a extra cost for folks with solar.

 

[CUT93]

Once all vehicles being manufactured are EV's then the poor/middle class has no choice. Isn't 2035 the goal to be completely switched over.

It will be interesting to see how the federal government recoups their gas tax money .

If you think that is going to happen by 2035, I just don't know what to tell you.
We all better hope it doesn't bc even if we start right now, we won't be able to build enough power plants to handle charging all those cars and would be in for catastrophic power grid failures all over the country.

 

[CUT93]

What's funny is these same people want a National sales tax which is literally a consumption tax. Cigarette taxes have largely helped reduce smoking by making it financially punitive for people to harm themselves.

I see no legitimate argument against a national sales tax as long as we end income taxes on individuals. Also reduces govt expense with the elimination of a large % if the irs.
Exclude tax on groceries(not restaurants)/daycare so you don't overburden the "poor" and what is the argument against it?

 

[dbjork6317]

I see no legitimate argument against a national sales tax as long as we end income taxes on individuals. Also reduces govt expense with the elimination of a large % if the irs.
Exclude tax on groceries(not restaurants)/daycare so you don't overburden the "poor" and what is the argument against it?

I like how you out poor in quotation marks as if poor people don’t actually exist.

 

[CUT93]

I like how you out poor in quotation marks as if poor people don’t actually exist.

It just depends on your definition of "poor". Poor people in America are in the upper echelon of wealth in the world. They are also only slightly comparable to those who were considered poor when our parents were kids.

If we decided to give everyone a new 3500 sf house, a tesla, and 10K a month, there would still be people others say were poor bc of the relative inequalities. Many people we consider poor drive nicer cars than mine. Ride through apartment complexes filled with govt subsidized tenants and look at the cars. I assure they are not all 20 yr old corollas and civics. Same with people in the checkout line that get snap/food stamps.

If you are driving a car less than 10 yrs old, wearing name brand clothes, eating at restaurants, talking on your iphone, and go home to sit down and watch TV on your 60" flat screen tv, it is kinda hard for me to consider you poor.