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"Armed Protests" - have people lost their minds?

Regardless of what party they are, what their ethnic group is, or what their cause is I'm not in favor of people being able to openly carry firearms like that during a protest. At some point there are going to be counter protesters present and also carrying guns and something terrible is going to happen.

To clarify - I'm not against protests and I'm not against guns but the combination seems to be a recipe for disaster.
 
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Regardless of what party they are, what their ethnic group is, or what their cause is I'm not in favor of people being able to openly carry firearms like that during a protest. At some point there are going to be counter protesters present and also carrying guns and something terrible is going to happen.

To clarify - I'm not against protests and I'm not against guns but the combination seems to be a recipe for disaster.

This. What happens if some of these "3%ers" or "Boogie Boys" or whatever, show up armed as well? Then how does this go?
 
Yes it has started. And that’s exactly what the puppet masters wanted. They are on the edge of their seats waiting for the blood to run down the streets. This has always been one of their major agendas. Sadly it appears they are about to accomplish that goal. All it will take is a group like this running into another armed group and a blood bath will ensue. When that happens it’s game over.

I imagine that many of the new applicant lists for white supremacist groups have dramatically increased. I remember when I was in the army in Germany another soldier in my platoon from Alabama one night showed me his KKK card. Even though I was from South Carolina I had never seen anything like that. I cut ties with him immediately, as I was taught that this was not people that you wanted to have as your friends, that they were evil people. I loathed those people! Now they are among a few groups that are standing up for the principles that I believe in, that being my southern heritage, and for the love of this democracy and the for the founding of this country. So, I guess, if I am forced to take sides and choose between BLM and Antifa, well...
 
I imagine that many of the new applicant lists for white supremacist groups have dramatically increased. I remember when I was in the army in Germany another soldier in my platoon from Alabama one night showed me his KKK card. Even though I was from South Carolina I had never seen anything like that. I cut ties with him immediately, as I was taught that this was not people that you wanted to have as your friends, that they were evil people. I loathed those people! Now they are among a few groups that are standing up for the principles that I believe in, that being my southern heritage, and for the love of this democracy and the for the founding of this country. So, I guess, if I am forced to take sides and choose between BLM and Antifa, well...

Am I reading this correctly - the KKK is one of the few groups that stand up for the principles you believe in? Damn man, I know you are out there but I truly cannot believe you just posted that.
 
Am I reading this correctly - the KKK is one of the few groups that stand up for the principles you believe in? Damn man, I know you are out there but I truly cannot believe you just posted that.

I am basically saying that the white supremacist groups are. I do not know if the KKK is in that group or not? I just know that they are racist. And I know (right now) no one else if speaking out in behalf of those against this madness. We (I mean white people and people of color who love this country and its founding) are laying back or cowering afraid to even comment how they feel about all of this racism, and I said it, racism against our (my) view of the love for this country and its founding.

If you believe that this is "out there" then I know you are likely on the anarchist's side, and you want to topple this government. Well good luck with that. Maybe we face off in the street(s)? ;)
 
Am I reading this correctly - the KKK is one of the few groups that stand up for the principles you believe in? Damn man, I know you are out there but I truly cannot believe you just posted that.

There you go man. These folks have always been around, but at least they were too ashamed to say anything out loud. Having Donald Trump as President has really bround a LOT of cockroaches out into the light. Racist and Proud of of it!!!
 
I am basically saying that the white supremacist groups are. I do not know if the KKK is in that group or not? I just know that they are racist. And I know (right now) no one else if speaking out in behalf of those against this madness. We (I mean white people and people of color who love this country and its founding) are laying back or cowering afraid to even comment how they feel about all of this racism, and I said it, racism against our (my) view of the love for this country and its founding.

If you believe that this is "out there" then I know you are likely on the anarchist's side, and you want to topple this government. Well good luck with that. Maybe we face off in the street(s)? ;)

You know... Hitler was apparently very fond of dogs. That's nice! It still doesn't really justify killing over 6 million people. I'm sure that the KKK has some values that aren't totally horrible. That doesn't excuse what they are for a minute. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. You can still love America and speak up in support of its founders WITHOUT supporting the KKK. You picked the hate part of that up on your on Adolf...
 
You know... Hitler was apparently very fond of dogs. That's nice! It still doesn't really justify killing over 6 million people. I'm sure that the KKK has some values that aren't totally horrible. That doesn't excuse what they are for a minute. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. You can still love America and speak up in support of its founders WITHOUT supporting the KKK. You picked the hate part of that up on your on Adolf...

I never said that I liked the KKK. Just the opposite, that I "loathe them". That goes for the Neo-Nazi's or any other racists white supremacists group. It is just that they are probably the only ones willing to push back right now.

You said, "You can still love America and speak up in support of its founders WITHOUT supporting the KKK."

Well you try speaking out about that at work. Just say "All lives Matter", and you are likely looking for another job, and your wife and/or kids as well. There are MORE than enough example of this!!! I don't care about speaking out. I am a retired government worker. They can't fire me. What I am worried about is the Fascists, Communists, Socialists idiots taking charge and destroying this government, economy, and breaking the backs of ALL Americans. That would also mean that the Federal Government would be broke and defunct, and by that I would no longer get paid for 40 years of service, which also included 9 years of military service.

So, hopefultiger13, I am pleased that you say that you are willing to speak out, and I support you (this) 100%.
 
I am basically saying that the white supremacist groups are. I do not know if the KKK is in that group or not? I just know that they are racist. And I know (right now) no one else if speaking out in behalf of those against this madness. We (I mean white people and people of color who love this country and its founding) are laying back or cowering afraid to even comment how they feel about all of this racism, and I said it, racism against our (my) view of the love for this country and its founding.

If you believe that this is "out there" then I know you are likely on the anarchist's side, and you want to topple this government. Well good luck with that. Maybe we face off in the street(s)? ;)

You are even more ignorant and racist than I thought. If not agreeing with white supremicists makes me an anarchist then I guess that’s what I am. But I don’t need someone that praises the KKK to tell me I don’t love this country. GFY if that’s how you feel.

Maybe you should cut bigger eye holes in your Klan hood so you can see the diversity in this country.
 
I imagine that many of the new applicant lists for white supremacist groups have dramatically increased. I remember when I was in the army in Germany another soldier in my platoon from Alabama one night showed me his KKK card. Even though I was from South Carolina I had never seen anything like that. I cut ties with him immediately, as I was taught that this was not people that you wanted to have as your friends, that they were evil people. I loathed those people! Now they are among a few groups that are standing up for the principles that I believe in, that being my southern heritage, and for the love of this democracy and the for the founding of this country. So, I guess, if I am forced to take sides and choose between BLM and Antifa, well...

What the.......

Duuuuuuuuuuuuddddddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........................................

If you think you have to pick between the KKK/Bangkock Boys/Whatever and Antifa/WTFOT Far Left, then you are missing the YUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE gap between the two. Where us normal people live.

Come hang out in the gap. We have cookies.

Your view is like picking between USuCk and 1980. There's other options, man. Don't buy into the either/or, you're on this side or that one, BS. You can love the country, realize it has a lot of great qualities, and still support the idea that black lives are important and do matter. And that we aren't perfect. And also support the 2nd Ammendment while thinking that going to a protest armed to the teeth is a bad idea, as is hassling people just trying to attend church (different group).

You aren't wrong... Dumbasses from around the country can connect. Then their dumbassery knows no bounds.

Rogan had a guest talk about this. Actually several mentioned it. We've removed nuance from the conversations and everything is now a soundbite or a 280 character tweet. We don't know how to discuss things. We know how to insult the other side and act like a spoiled baby who didn't get their way.

Think about it - presidential candidates are asked to share their position on incredibly complex issues - health care, criminal justice reform, social issues, the economy - in 30 second sound bytes. These are people who are vying for leader of the free world, and we're basically judging them on who can scream the loudest and have the most clever soundbite. Content doesn't matter. WTAF?

There you go man. These folks have always been around, but at least they were too ashamed to say anything out loud. Having Donald Trump as President has really bround a LOT of cockroaches out into the light. Racist and Proud of of it!!!

Maybe a few - but what I see is that anyone who dares to veer from a particular narrative is branded some sort of racist or 'phobe. Don't think men should compete in women's sports? You're a transphobe. That kind of crap. Think fat people aren't healthy? You're a fatophobe. Think Trump was a little bit better than Hillary? You're a racist or sexist. Automatically. No chance to explain why you choose who you do. Even if you voted for a woman for governor of your home state. Doesn't matter.

If you're black and support Trump over Biden? We won't even go into what they call those guys (I'm not black BTW). Words I can't type here and don't want to use. Ask Colion Noir about that.

It's what happens when complex issues are debated by simple people.
 
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Yes it has started. And that’s exactly what the puppet masters wanted. They are on the edge of their seats waiting for the blood to run down the streets. This has always been one of their major agendas. Sadly it appears they are about to accomplish that goal. All it will take is a group like this running into another armed group and a blood bath will ensue. When that happens it’s game over.
Seems to me everytime people think Antifa is responsible for some problem, it turns out it was a White supremacy group pretending to be Antifa. That is a much bigger problem for the nation. But they have the president on their side. Just today, he is complaining about Washington’s football team removing the nickname “Redskins” from the team. What a racist.
 
Seems to me everytime people think Antifa is responsible for some problem, it turns out it was a White supremacy group pretending to be Antifa. That is a much bigger problem for the nation. But they have the president on their side. Just today, he is complaining about Washington’s football team removing the nickname “Redskins” from the team. What a racist.

So all the looters and rioters out there burning and looting in the name of violent felon loser George Floyd are all white people in blackface?
 
You are even more ignorant and racist than I thought. If not agreeing with white makes me an anarchist then I guess that’s what I am. But I don’t need someone that praises the KKK to tell me I don’t love this country. GFY if that’s how you feel.

Maybe you should cut bigger eye holes in your Klan hood so you can see the diversity in this country.

You are a stupid as 'Fake News' piece of sh!t that is the problem NOT the solution!!! You F*ckin* failed to see my comments about the disdain for the KKK and other white supremacists and spin the thing completely out of control! Well you are probably a racist and an anarchist when you have to lead off your premise (comment) by first stating you are not? Maybe it's because you act stupider when you are not wearing your white hood, you piece of crap!!!

I say as well dip-hit, GFY!!! The last thing anyone wants to see is a racist calling someone else a racist. Be careful dumb-ass that while you are trying to wipe the drool running down your chin that you don't step in a manhole with no cover!!! And supremacists (supremicists?? o_O) or they will kick you out of the organization!
 
CHAZ had the highest per-capita murder rate in the world in their short existence, I think.

Idiots with guns who didn't know how they worked........

Gun guys have an expression - "Fudds". It's guys who use guns but don't really understand them. These are the ones who often say things like "I forgot it was loaded" when almost shooting something they don't mean to. Every group has them.
Oh how well I know. I’m a big gun guy. A while back me and a former military friend of mine were shooting my 308 and 7mm magnum at 800 yards at a 8” steel plate hung from chains. I was having a good time slapping the gong with my 308 both by hold over and dialing the turrets over and over. Then I planned on using my 7mm magnum but first enter friend who wants to try 7mm first. I’m walking to my four wheeler when I hear the shot that I immediately knew didn’t sound right. Turn around and see him rolling on ground with blood flying everywhere. Look over and 7mm bolt action is in about 17 different pieces. He chambered a damn 308 round in the 7mm and fired it. We are in an area that can only be gotten to by atv or helicopter. After 30 minutes of trying to stop the bleeding from all the cuts and holes in his face we left. Haven’t been back with him since.
 
I imagine that many of the new applicant lists for white supremacist groups have dramatically increased. I remember when I was in the army in Germany another soldier in my platoon from Alabama one night showed me his KKK card. Even though I was from South Carolina I had never seen anything like that. I cut ties with him immediately, as I was taught that this was not people that you wanted to have as your friends, that they were evil people. I loathed those people! Now they are among a few groups that are standing up for the principles that I believe in, that being my southern heritage, and for the love of this democracy and the for the founding of this country. So, I guess, if I am forced to take sides and choose between BLM and Antifa, well...
Yea I understand. Hopefully the good patriots that aren’t in these “groups” will band together and stop all this madness. If not then we will all have difficult decisions to make. At the moment I plan to make a stand at my home and protect my family but that could quickly change depending on the circumstances
 
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Seems to me everytime people think Antifa is responsible for some problem, it turns out it was a White supremacy group pretending to be Antifa. That is a much bigger problem for the nation. But they have the president on their side. Just today, he is complaining about Washington’s football team removing the nickname “Redskins” from the team. What a racist.
I haven’t seen what you’re referring to. I did see the armed black group at Stone Mountain. While it seemed peaceful it was obvious what they were doing.
 
The scariest thing is people with guns who are not properly trained. I was almost shot 4 times overseas by tired soldiers, not paying attention to detail while clearing their weapons. And these guys were properly trained.
This will be a problem.
 
So all the looters and rioters out there burning and looting in the name of violent felon loser George Floyd are all white people in blackface?
Looters aren’t Antifa. They are looters. I would wager most people who consider themselves part of Antifa are White.
 
Folks, African Americans are 13% of the population. Odds are not on their side. The armed fools need to sit back and let white liberals and woke CEOs complete the revolution for them. They were already stupid when gun carrying BLM thugs killed an 8 year old black child at the burned out Wendy’s. They are not winning the publicity battle by doing things like that. That is my hope, that BLM is too stupid to take advantage.
 
Looters aren’t Antifa. They are looters. I would wager most people who consider themselves part of Antifa are White.

Im not an expert. But i cant argue with your assertion. that. A perfect marriage between them and the marxist BLM movement.
 
I haven’t seen what you’re referring to. I did see the armed black group at Stone Mountain. While it seemed peaceful it was obvious what they were doing.

Standing around in some formation listening to someone shouting at them? Stupid. Armed in accordance with the law? Ok. Protesting? Ok. Armed Protesting? Ok. Armed and threatening people to shake them down for money? = Thugs that should be arrested.
 
Seems to me everytime people think Antifa is responsible for some problem, it turns out it was a White supremacy group pretending to be Antifa. That is a much bigger problem for the nation. But they have the president on their side. Just today, he is complaining about Washington’s football team removing the nickname “Redskins” from the team. What a racist.
I don’t think that has ever actually happened or at least been reported in regards to the riots. I think the mayor of Minneapolis tried to blame WS groups but he’s an idiot and had no proof that I recall.
 
Looters aren’t Antifa. They are looters. I would wager most people who consider themselves part of Antifa are White.

The scrawny white kids at these things seem to cause most of the problems. Probably because they know they won’t bear the brunt of the consequences.

That's why we often see black protesters screaming at them to stop breaking stuff.
 
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I imagine that many of the new applicant lists for white supremacist groups have dramatically increased. I remember when I was in the army in Germany another soldier in my platoon from Alabama one night showed me his KKK card. Even though I was from South Carolina I had never seen anything like that. I cut ties with him immediately, as I was taught that this was not people that you wanted to have as your friends, that they were evil people. I loathed those people! Now they are among a few groups that are standing up for the principles that I believe in, that being my southern heritage, and for the love of this democracy and the for the founding of this country. So, I guess, if I am forced to take sides and choose between BLM and Antifa, well...
Black Lives Matters & Antifa are funded by Committee of 300 Member, George Soros!
 
Oh how well I know. I’m a big gun guy. A while back me and a former military friend of mine were shooting my 308 and 7mm magnum at 800 yards at a 8” steel plate hung from chains. I was having a good time slapping the gong with my 308 both by hold over and dialing the turrets over and over. Then I planned on using my 7mm magnum but first enter friend who wants to try 7mm first. I’m walking to my four wheeler when I hear the shot that I immediately knew didn’t sound right. Turn around and see him rolling on ground with blood flying everywhere. Look over and 7mm bolt action is in about 17 different pieces. He chambered a damn 308 round in the 7mm and fired it. We are in an area that can only be gotten to by atv or helicopter. After 30 minutes of trying to stop the bleeding from all the cuts and holes in his face we left. Haven’t been back with him since.
Damn Brother, sorry to hear that about your friend!
 
Seems to me everytime people think Antifa is responsible for some problem, it turns out it was a White supremacy group pretending to be Antifa. That is a much bigger problem for the nation. But they have the president on their side. Just today, he is complaining about Washington’s football team removing the nickname “Redskins” from the team. What a racist.

Please give me some proof of your statement that antifa is not real? and that anything bad done related to antifa is really part of a white supremicist group. Disclosure requested....are you an antifa member and/or sympathizer? Do you support overthrow of the US govt? Thanks in advance for your response.
 
Black Lives Matters & Antifa are funded by Committee of 300 Member, George Soros!

Yes I believe that is so. But I am just tired of talking about it anymore. You have some on here who are hell bent on being anarchists and liars, who spin the truth and make accusations that are downright incorrect and evil. One such idiot caused me to react in a manner that I should not have. One thing that I have learned here is that, as in life, this board has some of the same bad elements, i.e. mskoonce. Because of his/her comments attacking me personally, I responded in a way that I should not of. The person is a far left radical nutcase who is part of the problem that just waits for opportunities to spew his hatred. He probably worships George Soros.

So I think I am done here, at least for a while. I am not going to let evil people like mskoonce steal my joy, or deflect from the issue and fight that awaits us. Maybe if we come to civil war I will introduce myself to him. In the meantime we will have to figure out the best way to deal with people like him, Black Lives Matters, and Antifa, and not allow those Fascists destroy what is the best nation on this planet.

So, maybe I will reengage this board in the future at some point or time. Hopefully this board can purge the ones like mskoonce who hate all, and everyone and everything that is good...
 
Standing around in some formation listening to someone shouting at them? Stupid. Armed in accordance with the law? Ok. Protesting? Ok. Armed Protesting? Ok. Armed and threatening people to shake them down for money? = Thugs that should be arrested.
Yea I noticed they had to stop twice in 7.5 minutes. Must have been hot that day lol! Some dude yelling at them to drink water and sit in the shade. They’ll need to figure out how to use those weapons if they plan on using them. My guess is a handful do or could, but the rest were just fillers to make it look good or so they thought. The above didn’t give them a good look.
 
Damn Brother, sorry to hear that about your friend!
I’ll tell you about it in detail if you want later this week. He’s ok but that turned a really fun day into a mess quick. And the 7mm happened to be my first rifle that my deceased father bought me when I was 18. So it had a little sentimental value but all it takes is one mistake and things go wrong fast. I’ve been shooting a lot for 27 straight years and luckily that’s the only thing that’s ever happened. While not physically to me I still look back and now realize even if it’s a friend who’s ex military and especially if it’s my weapon, never turn your back. Watch what’s happening.
 
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Please give me some proof of your statement that antifa is not real? and that anything bad done related to antifa is really part of a white supremicist group. Disclosure requested....are you an antifa member and/or sympathizer? Do you support overthrow of the US govt? Thanks in advance for your response.
Oh I think there is a loosely connected group of anarchists that like to call themselves Antifa. I think it is very small. And the Department of Justice - the Trump Dept of Justice - has been unable to find any linkage between Antifa and crime during these protests. Believe me, these are such sophisticated people that they can escape inquiry from the DOJ.

And am I an Antifa member or sympathizer? I hope you heard my laughing from Washington, DC. I am a lobbyist, man. Why would I want to destroy the political system from which I earn my income? I was the black sheep in my family when I registered as a Republican. Worked for Republicans in California, including a successful US Senate campaign. Worked for a Republican on Capitol Hill. Represented free enterprise companies, primarily in financial services, most of my career. I vote every election because I believe in the democratic process. Everyone should vote. Vote in person. Vote by mail. Vote early. Just vote. Why would I want to overthrow that????
 
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Yea I noticed they had to stop twice in 7.5 minutes. Must have been hot that day lol! Some dude yelling at them to drink water and sit in the shade. They’ll need to figure out how to use those weapons if they plan on using them. My guess is a handful do or could, but the rest were just fillers to make it look good or so they thought. The above didn’t give them a good look.

Tactical gear is hot, man. Plate carriers are heavy.

I will say that overall they did have some decent hardware. Maybe that's where all of the ARs went. You seriously cannot find them right now. A guy told the local gun shop he was looking for an AR and the response was "So are we."

Did you catch the guy in the gas mask at 20 seconds on the twitter video?
 
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I’ll tell you about it in detail if you want later this week. He’s ok but that turned a really fun day into a mess quick. And the 7mm happened to be my first rifle that my deceased father bought me when I was 18. So it had a little sentimental value but all it takes is one mistake and things go wrong fast. I’ve been shooting a lot for 27 straight years and luckily that’s the only thing that’s ever happened. While not physically to me I still look back and now realize even if it’s a friend who’s ex military and especially if it’s my weapon, never turn your back. Watch what’s happening.

Was the rifle fixable? It sounds like it wasn't.
 
Tactical gear is hot, man. Plate carriers are heavy.

I will say that overall they did have some decent hardware. Maybe that's where all of the ARs went. You seriously cannot find them right now. A guy told the local gun shop he was looking for an AR and the response was "So are we."

Did you catch the guy in the gas mask at 20 seconds on the twitter video?
I saw it. Yea they’re heavy. I have them
 
Oh I think there is a loosely connected group of anarchists that like to call themselves Antifa. I think it is very small. And the Department of Justice - the Trump Dept of Justice - has been unable to find any linkage between Antifa and crime during these protests. Believe me, these are such sophisticated people that they can escape inquiry from the DOJ.

And am I an Antifa member or sympathizer? I hope you heard my laughing from Washington, DC. I am a lobbyist, man. Why would I want to destroy the political system from which I earn my income? I was the black sheep in my family when I registered as a Republican. Worked for Republicans in California, including a successful US Senate campaign. Worked for a Republican on Capitol Hill. Represented free enterprise companies, primarily in financial services, most of my career. I vote every election because I believe in the democratic process. Everyone should vote. Vote in person. Vote by mail. Vote early. Just vote. Why would I want to overthrow that????

I also think antifa is a fairly small group, but think its well organized and financed. You did not give the information related to white supremacist groups imitating antifa though, please provide that if possible. For the record, I am not a supporter of any white supremacist groups of any kind.

I totally agree on voting and am glad that you are not in favor of destroying our current form of government and our constitution. Would you agree that antifa and BLM movements have a goal to destroy our current form of government and life in this country and replace with socialism and/or communism?
 
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You'd have to be blind to not notice the trend towards "armed protests" lately. First (that I am aware of) is the protest about having to wear masks.

Now we have things like this going on:

https://www.newsweek.com/armed-blac...-militia-georgias-stone-mountain-park-1515494

Gotta say - seeing some nice hardware and pretty decent trigger discipline.

Both are two sides of the same coin - though the second group is actually trying to call people out for.....what? A gunfight? I know it was a show and that the Stone Mountain police were there and apparently did a good job of keeping the peace. I think the "calling out" was just words.

And what were the guys in the mask protests a few months back gonna do - take over the state capital? What's their plan once things go sideways? I mean, besides shvtting themselves.

I'm HOPING the guns were all for show and weren't actually loaded. Were I organizing one of these things (which I wouldn't) I would insist all open carried weapons are to be empty. Don't need someone having an AD and causing a damn war beside the Duck Boat ticket booth. It makes shvt cover.
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We’re living in The Tribulation, things are going to get much, much worse! Twenty-five percent of the Bible is Prophecy. Things that were Prophecied thousands of years ago have come to pass, are coming to pass & things that will come to pass. Check out Mathew 24, Luke 21, Daniel 7 (the 4th Beast is The NWO & Papal
Rome & The Beast/Antichrist (Pope Francis) & Revelation 6-22.... Unfortunately, Things are going to get much worse!
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