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At work today...no vax...no job. Lots of security at employees entrance to facility.

Google’s mandate goes into effect on Oct. 1. Any employee and/or regular visitor in any facility or campus must be vaxxed. I’ve heard a decent amount will quit.
 
Im in the middle of it. Happy in some way that a firm decision was made. Had mine months ago. Its a major Pharmaceutical Company so i see the reason why. But...hate when we loose good people...and we did.

How did it work? They just made you prove vaccination and if you did you were let in? Just curious of the operations side.
 
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Im in the middle of it. Happy in some way that a firm decision was made. Had mine months ago. Its a major Pharmaceutical Company so i see the reason why. But...hate when we loose good people...and we did.
Gone for good, or until vaxxed?
 
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Im in the middle of it. Happy in some way that a firm decision was made. Had mine months ago. Its a major Pharmaceutical Company so i see the reason why. But...hate when we loose good people...and we did.
I’ve had the vaccine for those who care, more for others than myself. I don’t agree with forcing people to take it however. It’s a very personal medical decision and some do have problems getting it. Vaccines seem to reduce symptoms, severity and mortality, I get that. Biggest problem I have with this whole mess is civil liberties being unlawfully thrown out for some perceived sense of make believe security with the excuse of a national emergency. I’ve been saying here for a year and a half that the old time honored protocols would have served us better in letting it run through the low risk population, and those who would rather live life than cower in fear regardless of individual risk. Now the Pandora’s box of variants has been opened wide and can’t be closed. It’s disturbing that the vast majority of at risk people, are so, because of their own self induced health problems, but everyone else is to pay for their poor choices by being forced to do, what clearly by now, isn’t working at tremendous personal cost. The human cost of these measures is manifold and incalculable for billions, especially the poor and children around the world.
 
Dear Facebook........

maybe there are other forums, you know other than a football message board.........?????

It is football season....noboday GAF about other people's work site
Hey Moron...there is a thread about football vax...its what a lot of people are discussing. Lots of people GAF!
How did it work? They just made you prove vaccination and if you did you were let in? Just curious of the operations side.
Gate was closed at parking..security checking ID badges...even COO was personally on hand at door. Owner has given people plenty notice that it was going to happen. And we give all the vaccines at the facility.
 
I’ve had the vaccine for those who care, more for others than myself. I don’t agree with forcing people to take it however. It’s a very personal medical decision and some do have problems getting it. Vaccines seem to reduce symptoms, severity and mortality, I get that. Biggest problem I have with this whole mess is civil liberties being unlawfully thrown out for some perceived sense of make believe security with the excuse of a national emergency. I’ve been saying here for a year and a half that the old time honored protocols would have served us better in letting it run through the low risk population, and those who would rather live life than cower in fear regardless of individual risk. Now the Pandora’s box of variants has been opened wide and can’t be closed. It’s disturbing that the vast majority of at risk people, are so, because of their own self induced health problems, but everyone else is to pay for their poor choices by being forced to do, what clearly by now, isn’t working at tremendous personal cost. The human cost of these measures is manifold and incalculable for billions, especially the poor and children around the world.
I am actually in favor of letting people choose. I don’t want government mandates.

But I don’t want my taxes or health insurance premiums to go up because of antivaxxers taking deliberate risks. They should pay for they hospital stay because it was a conscious decision.

Antivaxxers getting COVID at this point should be de prioritized from an ICU standpoint. Incredible that people are dying because hospital resources are clogged up by antivaxxers. Get to the back of the line or die at home with the peace of mind you lived your values and beliefs until the very end.

I also want symmetry and fairness, if you want your right to choose to be respected, you should accept that others, including your company, also have the right to choose. So, no complaining if your company disagrees with the risk profile of letting antivaxxers at work. In short, go find a job for a like minded employer instead of imposing your stance on the rest of society.

In short, totally on board with people making choices. They just need to own them.
 
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Your comment started off okay and somewhat reasonable. Then it ended with a typical comment from you. I thought the left was supposed to be the party of tolerance.
And I thought the right would be equally upset about the insurrection in January as they are now about Afghanistan.
 
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Americans right now on both sides of the debate:


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I always enjoy a historical perspective. In the 1940s after being attacked at Pearl Harbor, millions of Americans mobilized to fight for people they didn’t know in a war that wasn’t theirs. They volunteered to help their fellow man no matter the consequences including death. 407k Americans died fighting an evil force that was killing millions. The greatest generation indeed.

I wonder if our grandparents and great grandparents would have thought twice about getting a vaccine.
 
I’ve had the vaccine for those who care, more for others than myself. I don’t agree with forcing people to take it however. It’s a very personal medical decision and some do have problems getting it. Vaccines seem to reduce symptoms, severity and mortality, I get that. Biggest problem I have with this whole mess is civil liberties being unlawfully thrown out for some perceived sense of make believe security with the excuse of a national emergency. I’ve been saying here for a year and a half that the old time honored protocols would have served us better in letting it run through the low risk population, and those who would rather live life than cower in fear regardless of individual risk. Now the Pandora’s box of variants has been opened wide and can’t be closed. It’s disturbing that the vast majority of at risk people, are so, because of their own self induced health problems, but everyone else is to pay for their poor choices by being forced to do, what clearly by now, isn’t working at tremendous personal cost. The human cost of these measures is manifold and incalculable for billions, especially the poor and children around the world.
Leaders of organizations can make decisions for their people. If you work there and don’t like it, you are free to move on.
 
Hospital's begging the public to get the vax, but none are close to 80% vax for their employees. Very interesting conundrum. Lots would leave if mandated. Not a good time to lose health care workers.
Where did you get the 80% figure???
 
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Google’s mandate goes into effect on Oct. 1. Any employee and/or regular visitor in any facility or campus must be vaxxed. I’ve heard a decent amount will quit.

Fwiw, I worked for Google for over ten years, and still have many friends and contacts there. Based on my conversations, any losses will likely be minimal.
 
My company has a Oct 11 mandate. You have to upload your vaccination card. Interestingly this is only for management employees. The majority of our workforce is union and they can’t force them to do this because it’s not in the contract.
 
I always enjoy a historical perspective. In the 1940s after being attacked at Pearl Harbor, millions of Americans mobilized to fight for people they didn’t know in a war that wasn’t theirs. They volunteered to help their fellow man no matter the consequences including death. 407k Americans died fighting an evil force that was killing millions. The greatest generation indeed.

I wonder if our grandparents and great grandparents would have thought twice about getting a vaccine.
My guess is our grandparents would have fought this genocide being perpetrated by our government.
Also, the reason many joined the fight is because they did attack us. They fought for us and for the right to Liberty (read: the preamble to our constitution) for others around the world.

The experimental gene therapies haven’t killed millions yet. We are over 1/10 of the way there though...

Here’s to hoping I’m worthy of my grandparents as I fight the ignorance of the population and the evil of the government in this country!
 
Most professionals won’t quit. Most will grow up and get the vaccine.
I think you are wrong, I think there will be a lot of health workers not getting the shot and quitting. making someone take the shot is just another step in taking what little freedom you have left. This administration is doing their best to take all of our freedom. This once Great Country is turning the other cheek with this moron in office. just my thoughts. thanks
 
I’m thankful you’ve brought this up. A prevailing lie that’s been told here by dr’s as well as the main stream news is that we are tapped out and over running our hospitals and icu’s. That isn’t the case. We have lost so many healthcare workers, some because they won’t get the experimental gene therapy, that we can’t take more patients. We have the beds, but not the workers.
 
I had covid-19 last August and I still have antibodies. I am still giving my plasma to help people who contract covid-19. It is my understanding that if you get vaccinated you can no longer give your plasma. If it's true that a person that gets vaccinated can no longer give plasma. Should I just be able to show the fact that I have antibodies which is proving to be better than the vaccine.
 
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But I don’t want my taxes or health insurance premiums to go up because of antivaxxers taking deliberate risks. They should pay for they hospital stay because it was a conscious decision.
Do you feel the same way about smokers and obese people?

How about people who driver cars? Getting into a car and driving to work is taking a deliberate risk.
 
My guess is our grandparents would have fought this genocide being perpetrated by our government.
Also, the reason many joined the fight is because they did attack us. They fought for us and for the right to Liberty (read: the preamble to our constitution) for others around the world.

The experimental gene therapies haven’t killed millions yet. We are over 1/10 of the way there though...

Here’s to hoping I’m worthy of my grandparents as I fight the ignorance of the population and the evil of the government in this country!
My guess is our grandparents would have fought this genocide being perpetrated by our government.
Also, the reason many joined the fight is because they did attack us. They fought for us and for the right to Liberty (read: the preamble to our constitution) for others around the world.

The experimental gene therapies haven’t killed millions yet. We are over 1/10 of the way there though...

Here’s to hoping I’m worthy of my grandparents as I fight the ignorance of the population and the evil of the government in this country!
You are like the poor dead fools who followed Jim Jones. Your grandparents got their small pox vaccination. If they could afford it they had their kids vaxxed for childhood diseases. If they served in the military, they got their shots.
 
You are like the poor dead fools who followed Jim Jones. Your grandparents got their small pox vaccination. If they could afford it they had their kids vaxxed for childhood diseases. If they served in the military, they got their shots.
I agree Ole Tom with getting vaccines. The poor dead fool will soon be you I’m afraid.
The experimental gene therapies that you refer to as vaccines for covid-19 are not like the small pox vaccine or any their children would have taken. You understand that right? Your foolishness has shown in one post!
You talk about actual vaccines to defend clot shots that aren’t in any way like those vaccines you reference!
 
Hey Moron...there is a thread about football vax...its what a lot of people are discussing. Lots of people GAF!

Gate was closed at parking..security checking ID badges...even COO was personally on hand at door. Owner has given people plenty notice that it was going to happen. And we give all the vaccines at the facility.
With Pfizer getting full FDA clearance it really removes the last reasonable medical objection. Moderna approval should happen within 30 days according to pharmacy ppl I know.
I expect a slew of employers and blue state governments to adopt require vaX soon.
Desantis and Abott are on wrong side of history.
 
So just curious from the liberal side. Since there is a higher proportion of minorities not vaccinated than whites, is this not a racist issue. Or is this the liberal sides companies effort to force more minorities to get vaccinated?

Seems that these types of mandates will unfairly impact minorities.
 
With Pfizer getting full FDA clearance it really removes the last reasonable medical objection. Moderna approval should happen within 30 days according to pharmacy ppl I know.
I expect a slew of employers and blue state governments to adopt require vaX soon.
Desantis and Abott are on wrong side of history.
I would encourage you to read the two papers the fda put out on Monday. At this moment their isn’t a clot shot you can get that carries the fda approval.

It’s important to actually read those two pages to understand the deception of that agency.
 
Do you feel the same way about smokers and obese people?

How about people who driver cars? Getting into a car and driving to work is taking a deliberate risk.
It's not about how I "feel". It's basic economics. Insurance companies in the U.S. are allowed by law to charge up to 50% more for premiums for smokers. So, yes, there is a tax and additional charge for smoking because it costs so much to the healthcare system. Same thing for obesity and life insurance:
Life insurance cost and Obesity

So, it's not like there's no precedent for asking people to contribute more if they are a primary contributor to a cost. Just this past week Delta Airlines opted to not impose a mandate but will instead charge antivaxxers $200 a month extra for health insurance. Delta said the average antivaxxer COVID hospital stay cost $50,000 so they want to raise more money from the antivaxxer pool to offset that.

Again, it's not a me vs. you thing. It's basic common sense. If there is a direct correlation between an action and a consequence, why would this not apply to the financial impact of said action?
 
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