At work today...no vax...no job. Lots of security at employees entrance to facility.
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I would prefer less taxes as well. So i say we stop paying people not to work. Less than 50% of the people in this country are net income tax payers. Why should they not pay taxes to take the burden off of the rest of us?
People are concerned about a vaccine that was developed so quickly. That’s actually a fairly reasonable concern. And for the record, I’m vaccinated because I’m about 40 lbs overweight, 50 years old, and smoked for close to 30 years. If I were in better shape and hadn’t smoked for all those years (like an idiot), I probably wouldn’t be vaccinated. Maybe I would because of what I’m reading and hearing now about the differences in severity of how it manifests between the vaxed and unvaxed. To think people shouldn’t question a doctor is just as naive as your thoughts of their ignorance for questioning them. Should we have questioned them when they were pushing pain meds during the last couple of decades? Maybe that’s a bad example but I hope you get the point. They make mistakes and our politicians have no idea. They ALWAYS have an agenda, both sides.
I got Covid last July and got the vaccine a couple days ago. I wasn't worried about it until my relative who is a retired heart surgeon here in the state said that I probably wouldn't get that sick from it if I got it again but the issue is if I am unvaccinated even with the antibodies I will more than likely carry it for longer than if I was vaccinated, therefore putting other people at risk for longer.
That and there have been a couple people under 50 die right here in my community this past week
Also I have a friend who got vaccinated right when it came out, their kid is high risk. They give blood and plasma.
Lack of accountability for one's decisions. It affects all sides, so I'll be an equal opportunity offender here. Lack of fiscal responsibility (easy to spend other people's money) as an example affects both sides.
Just wondering..do you see no gray area other than living or dying? It isn’t so black and white. Not always live or die. If you survive you could be stuck with hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical bills. OR you can experience long hauler symptoms that can effect you for an indefinite period of time..maybe the rest of your life
My company went the other way, $100 bonus for proof of vaccination. Managers and above not eligible. We're supposed to be responsible and intelligent enough on our own. LOL
Does anyone know antivaccers that kids attend public schools?
Can your kids attend schools with all their shots?
My kids are little so I don't know for a fact but I feel like thats why all kids get shots up until they are 6 or so.
Can your kids attend schools with all their shots?
My kids are little so I don't know for a fact but I feel like thats why all kids get shots up until they are 6 or so.
I'll go along with that, but as a society do make certain calls. I don't believe in minimum wage because it creates unemployment. I do, however, believe in a minimum standard of living. Things like subsidized day care for women who make below x amount calculated on a sliding scale, say 40% decline as it gets above a certain level. There are hundreds of examples of how to implement a minimum standard of living that don't subsidize folks sitting on couches (usually).
Without going down a rabbit hole, my point is that we need to have one or the other. Much of my education is in economics (below PHD level), so I can't support minimum wage. I do think that if you are willing to work, you deserve a decent living. We need to do more to support the working poor and to help them build wealth.
I do understand. There is a lot of fear associated with this virus. A lot of people are getting very sick. I’m 39, don’t have any underlying issues, very fit and active, get great sleep, have very little stress, and have had it twice with no real issues. I have just made my choice to not get the vax. I don’t blame you for getting it. I have known a few people to get covid and die from it, but they had health issues. The majority of people get it and heal from it.
Yeah, my wife told me religion was a reason, what are the others? I guess the reason I ask can you just say no I don't want my kid to take them and that it?
In SC its Religious and/or Medical Exemption. You have to go to the Health Dept (county) to receive it.
I hear ya, I am 40 with no issues other than too much alcohol in big games, or grilling or golfing or fishing or....... you get it.
I know there is a kid ( mid 30s) in Clemson right now who just got out of the hospital and his wife was turned away due to being full, he got out after a couple of days and she got admitted.
Assume you feel the same way about abortion now?
Totally agree on all points by the way. I had a post in the Round Table where I expressed I felt lost politically because I am not in favor of socialism and strongly in favor of meritocracy, but gotta admit the system feels broken for a large portion of the population.
The fact that a minimum wage worker can work hard full time and yet not afford rent for a single bedroom apartment in 93% of the counties in the U.S. seems like a problem to me. A shrinking middle class and struggling working poor doesn’t feel like the right pillar of our society going forward.
The younger generations do not believe in the American dream anymore. We need to fix that so that people innovate, start businesses, work hard to be independent and contribute to society. If not, they’ll reach for the “easy” solution of the government “providing”, which comes at a huge cost from a control and loss of autonomy standpoint.
Gonna toss in the folks who have been in and out of “rehab” facilities three, four, five times and the outrageous amounts of monies the insurance companies payout simply because they would rather stay under some form of intoxication rather than be “forced” to live life. SMH. These are personal choices as well.
Leaked Pfizer Doc Shows Employees Can Remain Unvaccinated, Washington Looking at Making Vaccines Mandatory - Vision Times
Recently leaked internal documents from Pfizer reveal that the company has not insisted that its employees must have COVID-19 vaccines. The leak comes at a
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When 1 of the companies that have the vaccination doesn't have all their employees vaccinated there may be some questions about the vaccine?
I have been hospitalized a couple of times over the last few years for blood clots in my lungs and the one thing I have noticed is a majority of nurses/ health care workers appear to be some of the unhealthiest and over weight people working the front lines.
Just gets old. We all know where you stand on the subject. Some people need an umbrella to stay dry when they're indoors.
Republican here, and fat people, people with type 2 diabetes, smokers, drug users and anyone else who has an increased likelihood of medical expense due to controllable factors should ABSOLUTELY pay higher insurance premiums. The only excuse is a diagnosed, unpreventable medical condition.
Not at the direction of a government bureaucrat, at the direction of an actuary who uses basic math to calculate risk and cost.
Personal responsibility.
No, you said that you didn't want your health insurance to go up do to unvaccinated people. You complained about hospitals being full. My question to you was why you didn't have the same issues all along with fat people with heart disease and diabetes running up our health premiums and filling up hospitals. The drivel you typed about personal responsibility has zero to do with my response to you. If your reason for wanting people vaccinated is your health premiums and hospitals vacancy as you stated, then you should be concerned with all people who make poor life choices and clog up our health care system. You only seem to be concerned about vaccinated though. Now feel free to not answer the question and talk around the subject again, but the point remains, health care premiums have gone up and the system clogged by people making poor life choices for years, but glad you just became interested as it pertains to vaccinations
Helping people build wealth is a great idea, but in reality most people make choices and those choices have consequences. The average American lives paycheck to paycheck b/c they consume everything they make. They choose and justify buying things that they can do without. It is their choice, so more power to them. Certainly there are people who don’t make enough to for ends to meet.
There are plenty of people who make great incomes who mostly live paycheck to paycheck, they choose to spend Today and worry about saving tomorrow, keeping up with the Jones requires it.
I have been pushing for responsibility to matter for 25+ years. I already told you I’m consistent across the board. I know you don’t want to hear it though.
You are making up the fact that “now I care” to because it’s related to Covid and like I already told you that’s total BS. I have worried about healthcare costs for two decades as rising costs have consistently outpaced inflation. So, you can live in your made-up or you can accept reality and find a different way to attack my views.
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