What a total unmitigated disaster this guy is. Anyone who voted for him and still supports him is a complete fu$kimg moron. What a disgrace.
You are just a complete freaking hack whose understanding doesn't even go skin deep. You are reprehensible and irredeemable. Idiots like you deserve Biden as President. But, your moral failings will not infringe on my rights.I do think his following of the plan laid out by Trump and Pompeo was really dumb.
Just another example of him plagiarizing another person ideas/thoughts. Biden has never had an original thought or plan in his life, they're always someone else's.I do think his following of the plan laid out by Trump and Pompeo was really dumb.
The point is Biden can't even competently execute ANY plan. @clemben is a hack who isn't educated enough to understand or have the moral compass to admit that Biden ignored the warnings and advice of HIS own administration...Secretary of Defense, Director of National Intelligence, etc. @clemben is too dumb or morally deficient to understand or admit. That makes him useless.Just another example of him plagiarizing another person ideas/thoughts. Biden has never had an original thought or plan in his life, they're always someone else's.
He is an absolute f!cking disgrace to humanity. No sugar coating this POS!It is truly cruel that our university is putting people like this into the world.
@clemben belongs in Cuba or Venezuela where he can be a puppet
I love his response to George Stephanopoulos last night about people falling off of the planes as they flew out of Kabul.He is an absolute f!cking disgrace to humanity. No sugar coating this POS!
What a total unmitigated disaster this guy is. Anyone who voted for him and still supports him is a complete fu$kimg moron. What a disgrace.
Unlike the current administration unless you're looking for total incompetence.This thread delivers
The point is Biden can't even competently execute ANY plan. @clemben is a hack who isn't educated enough to understand or have the moral compass to admit that Biden ignored the warnings and advice of HIS own administration...Secretary of Defense, Director of National Intelligence, etc. @clemben is too dumb or morally deficient to understand or admit. That makes him useless.
Hey @clemben, your president just gave an interview where HE said the evacuation couldn't have gone better. Do you agree with that?! If so, you are a despicable human being. The worst. Literally!
He does like to plagiarize...lol. That is actually a hilarious deep cut @Cabotiger (for those of you like @Jimmy Green Beans who have no sense of history--Biden staffers, and by extension Biden, got caught plagiarizing speeches that RIGHTLY torpedo his presidential bid in 1988).Just another example of him plagiarizing another person ideas/thoughts. Biden has never had an original thought or plan in his life, they're always someone else's.
No where in Trumps plan was sneaking out in the middle of the night leaving behind thousands of Americans and billions of military equipment!I do think his following of the plan laid out by Trump and Pompeo was really dumb.
Because finally you can't think of anything to add! 😂This thread delivers
Yes Trump met with the Taliban, and had a PLAN in place to withdraw. I guarantee it didn’t involve sneaking out in the middle of the night! We have only had 2500 groups there and things were relatively stable and safe. No combat deaths in 18 months. We should have had a controlled withdrawal not thisLOLz.
Unlike you Trumpers--I'm happy to criticize Biden. This has been super poorly executed. Biden deserves plenty of blame. Hey @Jimmy Green Beans--are you too morally deficient to admit that Pompeo and Trump met with these same Taliban leaders and negotiated the withdrawal?? Huh?
And are you now contradicting your dear Trumpian leader who said 100% of the time that we should leave Afghanistan and worry about the US and not nation building? Are you disagreeing with the trump admin folks who initially criticized Biden for not doing this FAST ENOUGH? Wanting it done quicker, earlier.
LOL.
I don't like Biden--I never have, not sure where you got that idea. But all of you on this thread are Trump sycophants who would critique Biden no matter what. You have blind rage for any democrat--no matter what. If Biden hadn't left you would be saying that he was wasting money and not doing what he promised and he should bring the troops home.
This is a disaster because of Biden. Yes. Is it a disaster because neoconservatives like Rumsfeld and Cheney took us to Afghanistan and Iraq (two fronts!) and then switched from stopping terrorism to nation building and exporting democracy (ie feeding the military industrial complex) and anyone who critiqued it was weak on terror and a traitor? Yes. Should Obama have not listened to conservative voices demanding we stay and the military brass demanding we stay--yes. Should Trump have actually done what he promised he would do and bring the troops home during his administration? Yes. (one of the only things I liked about him and then he caved--but he was negotiating with the Taliban...lol). Lots of blame to go around. Again, if you can't admit that then you are a partisan ideologue.
In my view, pulling off the band-aid to a failed experiment of exporting democracy was always going to hurt no matter what. I think your only good point is that--yeah, it sucks that the Taliban got all of this taxpayer funded military equipment (why do we spend so much taxpayer money on the defense budget again?). Buuut, the reason a lot of it stayed was because the Afghan govt and military was supposed to use it to FIGHT the Taliban (or should we not have equipped them at all?) and they just caved immediately. Not sure what you want there...but I agree that biden deserves blame.
The conservative waffling on admitting afghan refugees is also ridiculously hypocritical. First, the trumpers like Stephen miller are openly advocating for not taking ANY refugees and then everyone switches to use it as a way to punch down to Biden--but then are like...wait...no, I can't support immigrants--just protect Americans and I'll flip flop back if the base makes me...
Sorry, sorry--this is probably all too nuanced and reasoned an argument for you @Jimmy Green Beans. You just wanted me to say Hail Trump, amiright?
What a total unmitigated disaster this guy is. Anyone who voted for him and still supports him is a complete fu$kimg moron. What a disgrace.
6 Trump mentions. I guess you kiddos will still be spouting Trump in a few years. The man seriously lives in your head so bad, you make the point for "Trumpers" so much more believable. Think about it...LOLz.
Unlike you Trumpers--I'm happy to criticize Biden. This has been super poorly executed. Biden deserves plenty of blame. Hey @Jimmy Green Beans--are you too morally deficient to admit that Pompeo and Trump met with these same Taliban leaders and negotiated the withdrawal?? Huh?
And are you now contradicting your dear Trumpian leader who said 100% of the time that we should leave Afghanistan and worry about the US and not nation building? Are you disagreeing with the trump admin folks who initially criticized Biden for not doing this FAST ENOUGH? Wanting it done quicker, earlier.
LOL.
I don't like Biden--I never have, not sure where you got that idea. But all of you on this thread are Trump sycophants who would critique Biden no matter what. You have blind rage for any democrat--no matter what. If Biden hadn't left you would be saying that he was wasting money and not doing what he promised and he should bring the troops home.
This is a disaster because of Biden. Yes. Is it a disaster because neoconservatives like Rumsfeld and Cheney took us to Afghanistan and Iraq (two fronts!) and then switched from stopping terrorism to nation building and exporting democracy (ie feeding the military industrial complex) and anyone who critiqued it was weak on terror and a traitor? Yes. Should Obama have not listened to conservative voices demanding we stay and the military brass demanding we stay--yes. Should Trump have actually done what he promised he would do and bring the troops home during his administration? Yes. (one of the only things I liked about him and then he caved--but he was negotiating with the Taliban...lol). Lots of blame to go around. Again, if you can't admit that then you are a partisan ideologue.
In my view, pulling off the band-aid to a failed experiment of exporting democracy was always going to hurt no matter what. I think your only good point is that--yeah, it sucks that the Taliban got all of this taxpayer funded military equipment (why do we spend so much taxpayer money on the defense budget again?). Buuut, the reason a lot of it stayed was because the Afghan govt and military was supposed to use it to FIGHT the Taliban (or should we not have equipped them at all?) and they just caved immediately. Not sure what you want there...but I agree that biden deserves blame.
The conservative waffling on admitting afghan refugees is also ridiculously hypocritical. First, the trumpers like Stephen miller are openly advocating for not taking ANY refugees and then everyone switches to use it as a way to punch down to Biden--but then are like...wait...no, I can't support immigrants--just protect Americans and I'll flip flop back if the base makes me...
Sorry, sorry--this is probably all too nuanced and reasoned an argument for you @Jimmy Green Beans. You just wanted me to say Hail Trump, amiright?
Are you kidding?? They cut off heads and rape 11 year olds. You think they’re worried about good faith??If there was a planned withdrawal that the Taliban supposedly agreed to, then why didn't they uphold their end of the bargain to, at least, show good faith???
He never does, only criticizes and talks down to others, oh and he was a point man in the election fraud.Because finally you can't think of anything to add! 😂
(this should be good...)
Nahh...weak.6 Trump mentions. I guess you kiddos will still be spouting Trump in a few years. The man seriously lives in your head so bad, you make the point for "Trumpers" so much more believable. Think about it...
But part of the Trump plan was releasing 5000 of the top Taliban leaders and captured soldiers back into the country as part of the 'peace deal' he and Pompeo struck with terrorists (and no, I'm not making this up--trump admin actually did this...).No where in Trumps plan was sneaking out in the middle of the night leaving behind thousands of Americans and billions of military equipment!
This is all about the incompetence of the current administration and the electorate that is responsible for allowing it. Not Trump, or Obama, or Bush who all made decisions about Afghanistan.But part of the Trump plan was releasing 5000 of the top Taliban leaders and captured soldiers back into the country as part of the 'peace deal' he and Pompeo struck with terrorists (and no, I'm not making this up--trump admin actually did this...).
They even took pictures!
Probably a contributing factor in why the afghan democracy got overrun so quickly and why that equipment was taken.
Agree 100%. This whole administration is putting us into a deep, deep hole that is going to take us a long time to recover from.What a total unmitigated disaster this guy is. Anyone who voted for him and still supports him is a complete fu$kimg moron. What a disgrace.
The UK Parliament holds Biden in contempt for the disaster in Afghanistan. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/08/18/parliament-holds-joe-biden-contempt-afghanistan/
What a freaking complete embarrassment. The whole world recognizes what a disaster he is.
That is my point--plenty of incompetence to go around.This is all about the incompetence of the current administration and the electorate that is responsible for allowing it. Not Trump, or Obama, or Bush who all made decisions about Afghanistan.
That is my point--plenty of incompetence to go around.
But to the specific point of the post--releasing 5k of the top Taliban fighters back into the country--not exactly a genius level move and definitely impacted the current instability and the taking over of the country and equipment so quickly.(which was the point I was specifically responding to...).
I think that we have a winner. Now is the opportunity.What I find fascinating is how the liberal MSM has turned on Biden. Yes, he screwed this whole exit out of Afghanistan up, as many on here have said, not that IMO we shouldn’t have left, but just how it went about and not safely getting people out.
But the MSM doesn’t eat it’s own without a reason. Once they turned on Cuomo he was done, he knew it and resigned. I mean, the Messiah Obama could’ve executed the Afghanistan exit the exact same way as Biden did and they wouldn’t be criticizing him this way. Has Obama made the call that it’s time to take down the Trojan horse Biden and put his gal Kamala in there. If not over this Afghanistan mess, it will happen eventually. That’s been the plan all along.
Not Incompetent…. EVILWhat a total unmitigated disaster this guy is. Anyone who voted for him and still supports him is a complete fu$kimg moron. What a disgrace.
He didn’t follow their plan! He hasn’t followed any of Trumps plans and he didn’t follow this time either. If anything he refuses to follow anything Trump did. He did the opposite of whatever Trump had planned, just like he has with everything. Now he’s blaming everyone but himself for this messI do think his following of the plan laid out by Trump and Pompeo was really dumb.
Interesting that the same ‘credible’ lol MSM that is criticizing Biden over his Afghanistan debacle of an exit, has also been silent for 6 months about 2.6 million illegal immigrants (and that’s just the number that turned themselves into border patrol) crossing over our southern border. Why? Because they know the plan is to flood this country with what they hope/believe will be millions more Democratic voters in the future.I think that we have a winner. Now is the opportunity.