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Biden on track to reduce deficit by $1.5T this year

That’s just a natural product of not having a Covid related stimulus bill this year
 
All Americans can celebrate this.

C'mon man. You have to be better than this. If you will buy all that crap being spewed then you just show you're irrevocably partisan in spite of reality.


Watch that interest on the debt spiraling out of control in the CBO projections (which try to paint a rosy picture of where we are)

We are going to be CRUSHED by our debt and spending.
 
That’s just a natural product of not having a Covid related stimulus bill this year

Still. The deficit went up in every year of Trump's presidency, and has gone down in each year of Biden's. It's just like Obama said, the pubs are deficit hawks when a dem is president, not so much when their own guy is in there.
 
C'mon man. You have to be better than this. If you will buy all that crap being spewed then you just show you're irrevocably partisan in spite of reality.


Watch that interest on the debt spiraling out of control in the CBO projections (which try to paint a rosy picture of where we are)

We are going to be CRUSHED by our debt and spending.
Nobody wants to touch Social Security and Medicare. Too much time is spent haggling over this or that program getting a few billion dollars when it’s chump change compared to trillions of mandatory spending
 
Still. The deficit went up in every year of Trump's presidency, and has gone down in each year of Biden's. It's just like Obama said, the pubs are deficit hawks when a dem is president, not so much when their own guy is in there.
That’s a meaningless point when Biden hasn’t even been in office two full years. On the second point yes Obama is largely correct. Republicans will often frame their opposition to Democrat policy as based on spending concerns but will rack up the debt on what they want. Same goes for both parties.
 
Still. The deficit went up in every year of Trump's presidency, and has gone down in each year of Biden's. It's just like Obama said, the pubs are deficit hawks when a dem is president, not so much when their own guy is in there.

True about Trump. False with respect to the other claim outside of exploiting circumstance. Trump was a bad president. It doesn't justify what Democrats are doing now or in the past. It's just horrendous no matter who is in charge. It's unfortunate you don't see this. I guess either you don't have kids or you just don't give a damn about them and what we leave behind. Either way, it sucks!
 
DOW lost a 1000+ points today
Inflation out of control
Gas prices enroute to $5+ per gallon avg in every US state.

not all are Biden’s fault BUT …. no one should be celebrating.
 
True about Trump. False with respect to the other claim outside of exploiting circumstance. Trump was a bad president. It doesn't justify what Democrats are doing now or in the past. It's just horrendous no matter who is in charge. It's unfortunate you don't see this. I guess either you don't have kids or you just don't give a damn about them and what we leave behind. Either way, it sucks!

I do have kids, and they will be fine either way because I am going to leave them a fortune.

And I don't need a lecture from someone who believes climate change isn't real about what we are leaving behind for our kids.
 
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I do have kids, and they will be fine either way because I am going to leave them a fortune.

And I don't need a lecture from someone who believes climate change isn't real about what we are leaving behind for our kids.

You must have me mistaken with someone else. I am 100% certain that climate change is real. For me it's more about degrees and overinflated scare tactics. But it is absolutely real.
 
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Still. The deficit went up in every year of Trump's presidency, and has gone down in each year of Biden's. It's just like Obama said, the pubs are deficit hawks when a dem is president, not so much when their own guy is in there.
Just like most of what obama said, it is bs. Obviously spending/deficit was up due to covid in 2020/2021. Outside of those years, even though Trump was spending like a drunken sailor as well, his highest deficit of the other three years was still lower than the majority of obama's years in office. I am not excusing Trumps spending, it was defiantly too high. However, pretending he spent more $$$ than obama(outside of the covid year) on avg is just another lie.
If you want to go back and compare obama to bush, obama spent about 4x more/yr than Bush. So again, obama is a liar based on his own presidency. Why people believe him is beyond me- stupidity knows no bounds.
 
Just like most of what obama said, it is bs. Obviously spending/deficit was up due to covid in 2020/2021. Outside of those years, even though Trump was spending like a drunken sailor as well, his highest deficit of the other three years was still lower than the majority of obama's years in office. I am not excusing Trumps spending, it was defiantly too high. However, pretending he spent more $$$ than obama(outside of the covid year) on avg is just another lie.
If you want to go back and compare obama to bush, obama spent about 4x more/yr than Bush. So again, obama is a liar based on his own presidency. Why people believe him is beyond me- stupidity knows no bounds.
Obama would claim that they had to spend to deal with the ramifications of the 08 recession, and the deficit went down significantly over the course of his presidency as the economy stabilized. Trump then ran up the deficit during good economic times. The lowest deficit we’ve had since 2008 was in 2015. The second lowest was 2014. I’m not saying that the first term Obama era spending was necessarily justified either, just that it’s not a like to like comparison to compare the spending then with Trump’s spending.
 
Obama would claim that they had to spend to deal with the ramifications of the 08 recession, and the deficit went down significantly over the course of his presidency as the economy stabilized. Trump then ran up the deficit during good economic times. The lowest deficit we’ve had since 2008 was in 2015. The second lowest was 2014. I’m not saying that the first term Obama era spending was necessarily justified either, just that it’s not a like to like comparison to compare the spending then with Trump’s spending.
Obama claims a lot of things, which were mostly bs. Obama's lowest deficit year was more than bush's highest deficit year. Again, I think Trump spent $$$ like a drunken sailor and was the thing I liked least from a policy perspective. I am not defending his spending, it was ridiculous. Also, as you pointed out, you can't justify a whole term of spending on the recession. Even the last year of his first term was higher than any of Trumps three non pandemic years.
 
Just like most of what obama said, it is bs. Obviously spending/deficit was up due to covid in 2020/2021. Outside of those years, even though Trump was spending like a drunken sailor as well, his highest deficit of the other three years was still lower than the majority of obama's years in office. I am not excusing Trumps spending, it was defiantly too high. However, pretending he spent more $$$ than obama(outside of the covid year) on avg is just another lie.
If you want to go back and compare obama to bush, obama spent about 4x more/yr than Bush. So again, obama is a liar based on his own presidency. Why people believe him is beyond me- stupidity knows no bounds.

Obama spent a lot to get us out of the great recession - that started under Bush. The deficit was much lower in Obama's second term, reduced each year. Then Trump, who ran on a promise to eliminate the debt, actually raised the deficit each year he was in office. Why people believe Trump is beyond me- stupidity knows no bounds.

 
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You must have me mistaken with someone else. I am 100% certain that climate change is real. For me it's more about degrees and overinflated scare tactics. But it is absolutely real.

If you vote for people who deny climate change is real, how is that helping our children?
 
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Obama spent a lot to get us out of the great recession - that started under Bush. The deficit was much lower in Obama's second term, reduced each year. Then Trump, who ran on a promise to eliminate the debt, actually raised the deficit each year he was in office. Why people believe Trump is beyond me- stupidity knows no bounds.


Believing either one is stupid. Believing that a president starts a recession in most cases is stupid. Unless of course you have a president spending like this one does which is going to ultimately get us into one. I know you're smarter than this so I can't really come up with a good reason why you put up the things you do. In either case all I can think to do is say bless your heart.
 
If you vote for people who deny climate change is real, how is that helping our children?

If you vote for people thinking they are fighting climate change how is that helping our children? Because they aren't fighting anything. Just like BLM, the whole climate change thing is an enormous Ponzi scheme. When you want to get serious about it though I'll be there. Here's a hint, stop thinking it's a political stance and start looking at it differently. When the end goal is gaining power over others, that's usually political.
 
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Believing either one is stupid. Believing that a president starts a recession in most cases is stupid. Unless of course you have a president spending like this one does which is going to ultimately get us into one. I know you're smarter than this so I can't really come up with a good reason why you put up the things you do. In either case all I can think to do is say bless your heart.

Believing that a president starts a recession in most cases is stupid.
Unless of course it is Biden then it is his fault.


This is some of your best work.
 
If you vote for people thinking they are fighting climate change how is that helping our children? Because they aren't fighting anything. Just like BLM, the whole climate change thing is an enormous Ponzi scheme. When you want to get serious about it though I'll be there. Here's a hint, stop thinking it's a political stance and start looking at it differently. When the end goal is gaining power over others, that's usually political.

I believe in climate change.
The whole climate change thing is a ponzi scheme.


I am having a hard time following you. Maybe I am as stupid as you say.
 
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Obama spent a lot to get us out of the great recession - that started under Bush. The deficit was much lower in Obama's second term, reduced each year. Then Trump, who ran on a promise to eliminate the debt, actually raised the deficit each year he was in office. Why people believe Trump is beyond me- stupidity knows no bounds.

Fiscally, Trump was as close to a democrat as a conservative. Again, I am not defending Trumps spending, it was ridiculous. However, obama's ( and likely his quote) term(s) was before Trump even took office so what Trump did was not material to the validity of obama's statement. Again, Obama's lowest deficit year in eight years was higher than the ANY of the previous eight years under bush.
 
I do have kids, and they will be fine either way because I am going to leave them a fortune.

And I don't need a lecture from someone who believes climate change isn't real about what we are leaving behind for our kids.
If people like you hadn't massively overplayed your hand on doomsday climate change you could have eventually won over some of the right. CC is real. As of now you'll never convince those people that Algore told they had 10 years to live 20 years ago.
 
If people like you hadn't massively overplayed your hand on doomsday climate change you could have eventually won over some of the right. CC is real. As of now you'll never convince those people that Algore told they had 10 years to live 20 years ago.
so, you're winning by sticking it to al gore at the cost of the planet you're leaving your kids? really owning him. nice work.
 
I do have kids, and they will be fine either way because I am going to leave them a fortune.

And I don't need a lecture from someone who believes climate change isn't real about what we are leaving behind for our kids.
The Obamas better enjoy that beach house now, because his kids will have to snorkel through it.
 
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If you vote for people thinking they are fighting climate change how is that helping our children? Because they aren't fighting anything. Just like BLM, the whole climate change thing is an enormous Ponzi scheme. When you want to get serious about it though I'll be there. Here's a hint, stop thinking it's a political stance and start looking at it differently. When the end goal is gaining power over others, that's usually political.
Zing
 
The Obamas better enjoy that beach house now, because his kids will have to snorkel through it.

Ahhhhhh, so you are like @jakefest on this issue. "Climate change isnt real because Obama bought a beach house." You fail to mention that Obama's house is a cliffside property, well above expected rises in sea level.

It is amazing how easily you rubes can be fooled.
 
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it's just a stupid deflection and it's not one that's worth a shit to respond to. it's pretty much just a matt bors comic

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Ahhhhhh, so you are like @jakefest on this issue. "Climate change isnt real because Obama bought a beach house." You fail to mention that Obama's house is a cliffside property, well above expected rises in sea level.

It is amazing how easily you rubes can be fooled.
The funniest part of it all, is libs like yourself acting as if the climate hasn’t been changing since the beginning of time.

Your dramatics ruined your chance to garner open ears.

Don’t be a drama queen.
 
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The funniest part of it all, is libs like yourself acting as if the climate hasn’t been changing since the beginning of time.

Your dramatics ruined your chance to garner open ears.

Don’t be a drama queen.

Why are you so anti-science? Did a scientist beat you up in high school or bang your girl or something?
 
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so you disregard the science now because al gore was overly dramatic 20 years ago?

party of grown-ups indeed
 
so you disregard the science now because al gore was overly dramatic 20 years ago?

party of grown-ups indeed
Simmer down, friend.

I’m all about being good to Mother Earth. I’m in no way about buying in to the drama scheme ultra libs long ago created to gain power.

Find a new angle.
 
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You guys don’t think different rivers have dried up, at different times of the ever changing earth?

What about the next flood which hits the news? In a typically dry area?

As stated, libs don’t care about the environment, anymore than conservatives. They care about using an indefensible narrative, to force policies which give them power.

Global cooling, Greenhouse effect, global warming, climate change…. Looking forward to the next catchy narrative.
 
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