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The right in this country represented as the Trump wing of politics believe among other things,
- America First.
- Strong military.
- Controlled legal immigration only.
- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.
- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.
- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

Left is promoting,
- Single payer health care.
- Higher taxes on everyone individually and on businesses with context of paying fair share.
- Open borders, catch and release,,,,ie,,,global village.
- Restriction on gun rights.
- Activist judges.
- Sanctuary cities otherwise saying "we only obey laws we agree with"

The Trump doctrine is what I agree with strongly! His doctrine will lead to the US being stronger. The liberal/progressive doctrine will lead to a breakdown of our country into just another socialist state. Democratic party is basically having a coming out.....they are at minimum socialist. If I am a traditional southern democrat, I run from the current democratic party as fast as I can even If I dont like Trump.

The difference is like night and day. We all have an easy contrast to look at. This Russia stuff is just a smokescreen to confuse people.
 
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The activist judges thing is funny too considering the things R appointed judges are cool with.
 
This Russia stuff is just a smokescreen to confuse people.
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.

2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.

3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.

4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case this year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.
 
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.

2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.

3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.

4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case this year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.
Forgot one.

Tweet deleted. May be Butina, may be NSC staffer Cari Lutkins.
 
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The right in this country represented as the Trump wing of politics believe among other things,
- America First.
- Strong military.
- Controlled legal immigration only.
- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.
- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.
- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

Left is promoting,
- Single payer health care.
- Higher taxes on everyone individually and on businesses with context of paying fair share.
- Open borders, catch and release,,,,ie,,,global village.
- Restriction on gun rights.
- Activist judges.
- Sanctuary cities otherwise saying "we only obey laws we agree with"

The Trump doctrine is what I agree with strongly! His doctrine will lead to the US being stronger. The liberal/progressive doctrine will lead to a breakdown of our country into just another socialist state. Democratic party is basically having a coming out.....they are at minimum socialist. If I am a traditional southern democrat, I run from the current democratic party as fast as I can even If I dont like Trump.

The difference is like night and day. We all have an easy contrast to look at. This Russia stuff is just a smokescreen to confuse people.

Let me translate this post for the board.

“President Trump just let Putin drag his balls over his forehead in front of the world, but I don’t care because he (says he) believes what I beleive because I am an angry white man.”
 
The right in this country represented as the Trump wing of politics believe among other things,
- America First.
- Strong military.
- Controlled legal immigration only.
- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.
- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.
- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

Left is promoting,
- Single payer health care.
- Higher taxes on everyone individually and on businesses with context of paying fair share.
- Open borders, catch and release,,,,ie,,,global village.
- Restriction on gun rights.
- Activist judges.
- Sanctuary cities otherwise saying "we only obey laws we agree with"

The Trump doctrine is what I agree with strongly! His doctrine will lead to the US being stronger. The liberal/progressive doctrine will lead to a breakdown of our country into just another socialist state. Democratic party is basically having a coming out.....they are at minimum socialist. If I am a traditional southern democrat, I run from the current democratic party as fast as I can even If I dont like Trump.

The difference is like night and day. We all have an easy contrast to look at. This Russia stuff is just a smokescreen to confuse people.

Interesting. I didn't know that conservatives were proposing that we discard the English common law system. What do you plan on replacing it with?
 
The right in this country represented as the Trump wing of politics believe among other things,
- America First.
- Strong military.
- Controlled legal immigration only.
- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.
- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.
- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

Left is promoting,
- Single payer health care.
- Higher taxes on everyone individually and on businesses with context of paying fair share.
- Open borders, catch and release,,,,ie,,,global village.
- Restriction on gun rights.
- Activist judges.
- Sanctuary cities otherwise saying "we only obey laws we agree with"

The Trump doctrine is what I agree with strongly! His doctrine will lead to the US being stronger. The liberal/progressive doctrine will lead to a breakdown of our country into just another socialist state. Democratic party is basically having a coming out.....they are at minimum socialist. If I am a traditional southern democrat, I run from the current democratic party as fast as I can even If I dont like Trump.

The difference is like night and day. We all have an easy contrast to look at. This Russia stuff is just a smokescreen to confuse people.
-America First.

If you’re America first you’d be anti-Russia interfering in elections. If you’re America first you’d be against our vagina of a president bending the knee for Un and Putin.

- Strong military.

If you’re strong military you’d be against Trump having the N Korea summit without the defense secretary, it is important enough to have a base of there.

- Controlled legal immigration only

Obama was more efficient at deporting Mexicans. Spent less dollars and sent more Mexicans packing.

- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.

Shipping is fvcked right now thanks to increasing dot regulation and trade wars. Cost of goods are going up and tariffs have hurt more jobs than helped.
- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. The president that said he wishes we had president for life? The president that said he would pardon himself? The president that declared war on trade all by himself????

- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

I’ll give you the judges. Right leaning judges are the only ones who respect the constitution
 
Let me translate this post for the board.

“President Trump just let Putin drag his balls over his forehead in front of the world, but I don’t care because he (says he) believes what I beleive because I am an angry white man.”

I give my assessment. You can go name calling all you want. The Trump army is still with him.
 
Interesting. I didn't know that conservatives were proposing that we discard the English common law system. What do you plan on replacing it with?

I dont get you on this one Grumplin. You must be a career academic. I go by common sense of right and wrong and believe that the commie left is trying to take over the country via judicial decisions because they know they cant do it with the approval of the people. Thats why the left is so up in arms over Trump getting a second Supreme Court pick. Just look at all the lame suits against Trumps decisions like the travel ban for instance....liberal activist judges stopping the Presidents lawful constitutional duties with the stroke of a pen on a nationwide basis. Travel ban was stopped for over a year while this had to run through the courts until the supreme court upheld the Presidential authority. This is just one of many examples. I may not be a constitutional scholar, but I and most others are smart enough to see whats going on with this crap. I think liberals even see this is crap, but endorse it because they agree with the goals of the resistance.
 
-America First.

If you’re America first you’d be anti-Russia interfering in elections. If you’re America first you’d be against our vagina of a president bending the knee for Un and Putin.

- Strong military.

If you’re strong military you’d be against Trump having the N Korea summit without the defense secretary, it is important enough to have a base of there.

- Controlled legal immigration only

Obama was more efficient at deporting Mexicans. Spent less dollars and sent more Mexicans packing.

- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.

Shipping is fvcked right now thanks to increasing dot regulation and trade wars. Cost of goods are going up and tariffs have hurt more jobs than helped.

- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. The president that said he wishes we had president for life? The president that said he would pardon himself? The president that declared war on trade all by himself????

- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

I’ll give you the judges. Right leaning judges are the only ones who respect the constitution

- Strong military.

If you’re strong military you’d be against Trump having the N Korea summit without the defense secretary, it is important enough to have a base of there.

This is a lame reach. Trump got huge money for the military in this recent budget. He is taking care of the veterans and is working head on to take care of international problems like North Korea for instance where everyone else has let it go on.

- Controlled legal immigration only

Obama was more efficient at deporting Mexicans. Spent less dollars and sent more Mexicans packing.

Obama did deport some illegals, but that is not a negative on Trump. Trump is clearly trying to deal with immigration and has offered multiple plans that the dems will not take as they want immigration as an election issue. Obama also had a filibuster proof control of senate and control of the house from 2008 to 2010 and did not pass any immigration reform. This is an easy contrast. Democrats are for open borders, abolishing ICE, and uncontrolled immigration. Trump and most republicans are for legal immigration only and also passing immigration reform. Trump is very reasonable and would give DACA and a lot of other goodies to get reform signed. Must have the wall, end of visa lottery, end of chain migration, end of catch and release.

- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.

Shipping is fvcked right now thanks to increasing dot regulation and trade wars. Cost of goods are going up and tariffs have hurt more jobs than helped.

The economy is on fire and if you cant see that then you are blind in Trump derangement. Prices always go up when the economy does better,,,its always been that way. I support Trump in correcting the trade imbalance issues....the US is in a strong position to get it done now. If we let China roll on for another 10 years as is, then they will have all the cards. Btw,,,in case you have been under a rock, the US has the lowest unemployment in over 30 years with the lowest all time unemployment recorded for hispanics and african americans.

- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. The president that said he wishes we had president for life? The president that said he would pardon himself? The president that declared war on trade all by himself????

This is not even an argument. This is just insulting Trump. Regarding trade, Trump as POTUS is constitutionally entitled to do what he is doing. A lot of presidents probably would want to do it for life....not a negative on Trump....never heard him say it myself though.

- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

I’ll give you the judges. Right leaning judges are the only ones who respect the constitution[/QUOTE]
 
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I give my assessment. You can go name calling all you want. The Trump army is still with him.

I am not name calling, you refer to yourself as an angry white man. Thank you for mentioning the “trump army” that you are a member of. That just proves what many on here are saying, you are more loyal to former reality TV star Donald Trump than you are to your country. Happy treason comrade!
 
- Strong military.

If you’re strong military you’d be against Trump having the N Korea summit without the defense secretary, it is important enough to have a base of there.

This is a lame reach. Trump got huge money for the military in this recent budget. He is taking care of the veterans and is working head on to take care of international problems like North Korea for instance where everyone else has let it go on.

- Controlled legal immigration only

Obama was more efficient at deporting Mexicans. Spent less dollars and sent more Mexicans packing.

Obama did deport some illegals, but that is not a negative on Trump. Trump is clearly trying to deal with immigration and has offered multiple plans that the dems will not take as they want immigration as an election issue. Obama also had a filibuster proof control of senate and control of the house from 2008 to 2010 and did not pass any immigration reform. This is an easy contrast. Democrats are for open borders, abolishing ICE, and uncontrolled immigration. Trump and most republicans are for legal immigration only and also passing immigration reform. Trump is very reasonable and would give DACA and a lot of other goodies to get reform signed. Must have the wall, end of visa lottery, end of chain migration, end of catch and release.

- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.

Shipping is fvcked right now thanks to increasing dot regulation and trade wars. Cost of goods are going up and tariffs have hurt more jobs than helped.

The economy is on fire and if you cant see that then you are blind in Trump derangement. Prices always go up when the economy does better,,,its always been that way. I support Trump in correcting the trade imbalance issues....the US is in a strong position to get it done now. If we let China roll on for another 10 years as is, then they will have all the cards. Btw,,,in case you have been under a rock, the US has the lowest unemployment in over 30 years with the lowest all time unemployment recorded for hispanics and african americans.

- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. The president that said he wishes we had president for life? The president that said he would pardon himself? The president that declared war on trade all by himself????

This is not even an argument. This is just insulting Trump. Regarding trade, Trump as POTUS is constitutionally entitled to do what he is doing. A lot of presidents probably would want to do it for life....not a negative on Trump....never heard him say it myself though.

- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

I’ll give you the judges. Right leaning judges are the only ones who respect the constitution
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please note tigergrowls use of the term “trump derangement”. That was a new phrase coined by conservative media in the past few days to defend trump. When trump says something weak or stupid on camera during an event as widely televised as the Russia summit, the term “fake news” does not apply. So they invented the term “trump derangement syndrome” to signify when people are making too big a deal over one of trump’s gaffes. The orange one is now using it in his own tweets, and it only took a sheep like tigergrowls one day to start using it here.
 
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I dont get you on this one Grumplin. You must be a career academic. I go by common sense of right and wrong and believe that the commie left is trying to take over the country via judicial decisions because they know they cant do it with the approval of the people. Thats why the left is so up in arms over Trump getting a second Supreme Court pick. Just look at all the lame suits against Trumps decisions like the travel ban for instance....liberal activist judges stopping the Presidents lawful constitutional duties with the stroke of a pen on a nationwide basis. Travel ban was stopped for over a year while this had to run through the courts until the supreme court upheld the Presidential authority. This is just one of many examples. I may not be a constitutional scholar, but I and most others are smart enough to see whats going on with this crap. I think liberals even see this is crap, but endorse it because they agree with the goals of the resistance.
You said that conservatives desire a legal system where judges only interpret the law and refrain from making the law. We are a common law system, which is based on judge made law. Maybe you are just being imprecise with your language, but I was curious to know what you propose in the alternative to having a common law system, if you are saying we should get rid of that. Or are you just saying we should get rid of all judges that aren’t conservative? If so, just come out and say it, and drop the “activist judge” sleight of hand.
 
- Strong military.

If you’re strong military you’d be against Trump having the N Korea summit without the defense secretary, it is important enough to have a base of there.

This is a lame reach. Trump got huge money for the military in this recent budget. He is taking care of the veterans and is working head on to take care of international problems like North Korea for instance where everyone else has let it go on.

- Controlled legal immigration only

Obama was more efficient at deporting Mexicans. Spent less dollars and sent more Mexicans packing.

Obama did deport some illegals, but that is not a negative on Trump. Trump is clearly trying to deal with immigration and has offered multiple plans that the dems will not take as they want immigration as an election issue. Obama also had a filibuster proof control of senate and control of the house from 2008 to 2010 and did not pass any immigration reform. This is an easy contrast. Democrats are for open borders, abolishing ICE, and uncontrolled immigration. Trump and most republicans are for legal immigration only and also passing immigration reform. Trump is very reasonable and would give DACA and a lot of other goodies to get reform signed. Must have the wall, end of visa lottery, end of chain migration, end of catch and release.

- Strong economy via low taxes and incentives for business.

Shipping is fvcked right now thanks to increasing dot regulation and trade wars. Cost of goods are going up and tariffs have hurt more jobs than helped.

The economy is on fire and if you cant see that then you are blind in Trump derangement. Prices always go up when the economy does better,,,its always been that way. I support Trump in correcting the trade imbalance issues....the US is in a strong position to get it done now. If we let China roll on for another 10 years as is, then they will have all the cards. Btw,,,in case you have been under a rock, the US has the lowest unemployment in over 30 years with the lowest all time unemployment recorded for hispanics and african americans.

- Strong adherence to the constitutions founding principles and all rights of US citizens.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. The president that said he wishes we had president for life? The president that said he would pardon himself? The president that declared war on trade all by himself????

This is not even an argument. This is just insulting Trump. Regarding trade, Trump as POTUS is constitutionally entitled to do what he is doing. A lot of presidents probably would want to do it for life....not a negative on Trump....never heard him say it myself though.

- Belief that judges should interpret law and not attempt to make law. No activist judges.

I’ll give you the judges. Right leaning judges are the only ones who respect the constitution
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How much shipping knowledge do you have??? Most our stuff made (including “American made” has some type of material imported in from China. Shipping cost alone have almost doubled. This is one negative result of trade war.

Once again for y’all idiots. Pretty much every right, center, and left leaning economist said Trade Wars are bad.... but y’all continue to trust the man that has continuously failed as a business man.

I’d bet you’d sell me on Trump being a better business man than Howard Shultz because he’s a liberal lol.
 
How much shipping knowledge do you have??? Most our stuff made (including “American made” has some type of material imported in from China. Shipping cost alone have almost doubled. This is one negative result of trade war.

Once again for y’all idiots. Pretty much every right, center, and left leaning economist said Trade Wars are bad.... but y’all continue to trust the man that has continuously failed as a business man.

I’d bet you’d sell me on Trump being a better business man than Howard Shultz because he’s a liberal lol.[/QUOTE]

Once again Casa, the economy is doing incredibly well. This is not a trade war, these are skirmishes. The US is still the worlds biggest marketplace. We hold the cards and can/will win a trade war if it happens. I am behind President Trump on the trade issue.
 
We hold the cards
At least you don't mind admitting you don't know anything about trade.

The President is supposed to surround himself with subject matter experts and his top economic advisor quit over these tariffs.

And he announced this morning that he is going to put a tariff on ALL Chinese imports. It's almost as if he is intentionally trying to cause an economic downturn. Unemployment is about to skyrocket.
 
How much shipping knowledge do you have??? Most our stuff made (including “American made” has some type of material imported in from China. Shipping cost alone have almost doubled. This is one negative result of trade war.

Once again for y’all idiots. Pretty much every right, center, and left leaning economist said Trade Wars are bad.... but y’all continue to trust the man that has continuously failed as a business man.

I’d bet you’d sell me on Trump being a better business man than Howard Shultz because he’s a liberal lol.

Once again Casa, the economy is doing incredibly well. This is not a trade war, these are skirmishes. The US is still the worlds biggest marketplace. We hold the cards and can/will win a trade war if it happens. I am behind President Trump on the trade issue.
Trump and the GOP will be voted out before China gives in. China is has a president for life, we don’t, even though Trump has said he wishes we did.

Japan just made a free trade deal with EU. China is working deals also. But we America lol. And I’d take the Chinese economists and experts any day against Trump.

Understand you are trusting a man that is going against every expert. You’d let him perform surgery on you if he said he knew better than the doctor.
 
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