Bigger whiner: Trump or Ryan Day?
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That was bad. Just embarrassing.
Please let it end soon.
Please let it end soon.
"The election apparatus in Georgia is run by Democrats."
This statement alone is so ridiculous that it cannot be quantified.
This statement alone is so ridiculous that it cannot be quantified.
The most embarrassing press conference tonight from the White House I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen Democratic and Republican Presidents speak out In tough moments before, but that was a huge embarrassment to our country.
This is who the country elected as president. He’s never at any point in his life tried to hide what type of human being he is. Nobody should be surprised by this.
You reap what you sow.
You reap what you sow.
Transparency in ballot counting should be a given. This is not occurring.
Identifying fraud should be something everyone from all sides should be cheering for.
Identifying fraud should be something everyone from all sides should be cheering for.
Sure. Please provide any evidence of something other than a one-off instance. Show us how low-paid/volunteer poll workers in multiple states with unique voting systems are recruited to engage in massive voter fraud.
Everyone can see when a loser is grasping at straws. You can too, whether or not you admit it publicly.
If this was Obama, you would be losing your shit. Pure embarrassment.
Just because enough people say something doesn't make it true.
I both pity and envy your ignorance. It must be truly blissful.
They're stealing the election from me, especially in Philadelphia and Detroit. Without illegal votes I'm a big winner. Wah wah wah.
All rhetoric aside, it was a little scary to see. My wife made the comment that Trump was using the exact same cadence and saying very similar stuff that Jim Jones did in Jamestown when he was convincing people to drink koolaid. I know that sounds nuts,but it really did
I’m curious as to your source of your anger. You are having a difficult time in even making sense in your communication. I’m not insulting you, just being honest. Why?
Don’t you want verified accurate results? Is this not good for everyone?
Don’t fall off the cliff here.. why are you upset? What harm will verifying these results do? If Biden wins fair and square.. I can absolutely live with that. So what’s the issue?
He's a loser. To use his phrasing: Some people say he's the worst loser.
The issue isn't vote count transparency. The issue is the President of the United States of America standing in front of the world - in the White House, behind the presidential seal - and baselessly claiming that the election is being "stolen" from him via fraud. Flat-out lying about good, hard-working Americans who are administering this election. That is NOT ok, and I would say that about a POTUS of either side.
Bottom line, and it's a simple yes or no question: Do you think there is widespread voter fraud that is affecting the outcome of this race?
Because I don't think you honestly believe that. I think you - being the decent person that I've known you to be - see that the results are likely legitimate, but are just toeing the party line and not missing another opportunity to "own the libs".
But again, it's a simple yes or no.
With the manner in which votes are being dumped, found after counting, poll watchers not being allowed to see what is actually happening... my opinion is yes, fraud is occurring. If a process takes place to check this, and no proof is found, I can live with that.
Asking for a process of vetting these results is a very reasonable request, and you being the level headed guy I know you to be, I believe you would agree, that’s reasonable.
Don't drink the koolaid man. There is NO evidence of anykind of wrong doing. The court attempts to stop vote counting are ridiculous from the Trump campaign. This is just sad, someone needs to take him to the side and tell him, that for the first time in his life, he needs to act gracious.
What a joke. He tells his supporters for months to not vote by mail, and then tries to be surprised when the votes by mail coming back are for the other side.
Yes sure. Count all the votes. I'm for that. That's what they will do anyway. And they will show again that Trump has lost.
But this is about claiming that the fraud is affecting the outcome of the election. Not one-off crap.
Just like I said in the title of this thread, it's about people who try to blame the refs instead of accepting that they just lost. Trump told us he would do this, so no one is surprised. And thankfully we don't have to care about his lies anymore.
Again, a transparent process is something all Americans should cheer for.
This is the same guy that took 4 years of Russians hacking the 2016 election conspiracy theory from democrats that was also completely false. The hypocrisy from both sides is honestly astonishing and what is truly wrong with America.
Bottom line the election in 2016 was legit. And now this one is most likely as well. Don't be dishing out insults to the President and Republicans now after you've won when you've spent the last 4 years doing the same thing you're criticizing republicans of doing now. Its honestly ridiculous.
Edit: And yes, vice versa applies to the Republicans as well.
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And I do cheer for it. Again Trumps claims are baseless and pathetic. Don't drink the kool aid.
Do you believe replay has created a more fair, balanced, and accurate game of college/pro football?
There’s no kool aid drinking in asking for transparency. Checking and rechecking the votes (by Dem/Pub officials) is a very reasonable request.
Listening to Trump he just said that this election will be won with lots of litigation, maybe at the supreme court. This man, is making a mockery of our country and he's going to lose. He will definitely, definitely maintain this narrative carrying over into his new job at OAN where he will radicalize people further into his cult.
Yep. Sure has. Again I'm for full transparency. The votes are what they are. Recount 'em all.
But - again - that's not what this is about. The president of the United States stood up and spewed lies about how the election was being stolen from him via fraud (and how the Democrats run the election apparatus in Georgia). And you feel the need to defend that behavior and those lies in the name of "transparency". Very sad.
Ok. My wife told me I have to put down my phone. I'm out.
I’m not trying to upset you.. you have my word. You and I will be friends long after whichever way this pans out.
You have the full right to not like Trump, or the fashion in which Trump carries himself... but you and I both agree (I think) recounting and vetting the details of the ballots is again, a very reasonable thing to do.
There are Democrat and Republican officials at every counting station. There is no fraud. As one person pointed out on TV, if the Democrats committed voter fraud, why the hell did they not take the US Senate? Why did they lose 5 seats in the House?
Well, A federal judge... A Bush appointee, just threw out one of Trump's lawsuits in Philly, Pennsylvania. A Trump campaign lawyer admitted before a federal judge on Thursday that observers for the campaign were allowed to watch ballot canvassing in Philadelphia, after they claimed in court and the President's supporters alleged they were being deprived unfairly.
The Judge asked Philadelphia city officials to confirm Democrats and Republicans were being treated fairly to watch the ballot-counting and that they were allowed to watch the ballot counting in the city from six feet away. The city officials said that yes they were.
When the judge pressed the Trump campaign lawyer if there were observers in the room from the campaign, the lawyer, Jerome Marcus, said, "There's a non-zero number of people in the room."
SURPRISE!!! Trump lied to you... again. Probably to keep you from panicking....
Have you missed the video of poll watchers not being allowed into Philadelphia ballot counting facilities. There’s video, not accusations... video.
No panicking here. Have you missed the video of poll watchers not being allowed into ballot counting facilities in Philly?
Look, I’m good either way. I voted for Trump... but if I voted for Biden, I’d want the process vetted and verified.
And I'm saying that Trump's own lawyer told a federal judge that they WERE allowed in. TRUMP told you they weren't. Then the Federal Judge threw out the case.
Thousands of Americans on both sides of the political aisle in all 50 states lost an election using these same ballots, but only one is calling it a sham. I’d say that proves it’s transparency and the burden of proof lies with the President to substantiate his claims.
Also, in dueling protests last night, there were Trump supporters in Arizona chanting “count the votes”, while the ones in Georgia were chanting “stop the vote”. Which one is it?
All legitimate ballots which were legally completed in time should be verified and checked.
One day, in the not too distant future, when you’re sitting in a FEMA Camp, staring @ a guillotine, you’re going to realize Trump was trying to save your ass from the predicament you are now in!
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