Bombshells undercut the 'Big Lie:' 21 confirmed illegalities, irregularities from 2020 election

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There are now nearly two dozen credible confirmations of wrongdoing, irregularities and illegalities that undercut the claims of bureaucrats, journalists and Democrats that the November 2020 general election was flawless.

By John Solomon
Updated: July 15, 2022 - 12:14am

Democrats and their allies in the traditional news media have coined the term the "Big Lie" to dismiss anyone who questions the conduct of the 2020 election.
But with each passing day, new irregularities, security vulnerabilities and illegalities are being unmasked by bombshell revelations from courts, legislators and other investigative bodies like the FBI and Homeland Security Department.
The latest came last week when the Wisconsin Supreme Court declared that state election regulators had no legal authority to allow voters to cast ballots in mobile drop boxes, a jaw-dropping decision that invalidated the way tens of thousands of voters -- many of them Democrats -- cast their ballots,
From Phoenix to Detroit, and Madison to Austin, there are now nearly two dozen credible confirmations of problems that undercut the claims of bureaucrats, journalists and Democrats that the November 2020 general election was perfect. In fact, it was quite imperfect.
And while none of revelations, at this point, will reverse the outcome of the presidential tally or unseat Joe Biden from the White House, they do build a compelling case that the bigger lie was that the 2020 election was flawless.
Here are 21 important revelations uncovered by Just the News over the last 18 months of reporting, complete with substantiating evidence and links:
  1. Illegal ballot drop boxes. The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled earlier this month that the 570 drop boxes used during the 2020 election were unlawfully approved by the Wisconsin Election Commission, "Only the legislature may permit absentee voting via ballot drop boxes," the court declared. "WEC cannot. Ballot drop boxes appear nowhere in the detailed statutory system for absentee voting. WEC's authorization of ballot drop boxes was unlawful." State Rep. Janel Brandtjen told Just the News that hundreds of thousands of votes were cast in the illegal boxes in the 2020 race when Biden and Donald Trump were separated by less than 21,000 votes.
  2. A Foreign Intrusion. Federal authorities have confirmed that two Iranian nationals successfully hacked into a state computer election system, stole 100,000 voter registrations and used the data to carry out a cyber-intimidation campaign that targeted GOP members of Congress, Trump campaign officials and Democratic voters in the November 2020 election in one of the largest foreign intrusions in U.S. election history. The defendants "were part of a coordinated conspiracy in which Iranian hackers sought to undermine faith and confidence in the U.S. presidential election," U.S. Attorney Damian Williams declared in an indictment.
  3. The Laptop Lie: More than 50 national security experts, countless news organizations and large social media firms falsely told American voters in fall 2020 that the Hunter Biden laptop with damning revelations about Biden family corruption was Russian disinformation. In fact, it was a legitimate laptop already in the FBI's possession, and Hunter Biden was already under criminal investigation before voters cast their 2020 ballots. The false narrative had significant impact: polling shows a majority of American voters believe the pre-election censorship of the story amounted to election interference,
  4. Alleged Bribery. The former state Supreme Court justice appointed by the Wisconsin Legislature to investigate the 2020 election concluded that millions of dollars in donations to election administrators in five Democrat-heavy municipalities from the Mark Zuckerberg-funded Center for Tech and Civic Life violated state anti-bribery laws and corrupted election practices by turning public election authorities into liberal get-out-the-vote activists. “The Zuckerberg-funded CTCL/ Zuckerberg 5 scheme would prove to be an effective way to accomplish the partisan effort to 'turnout' their desired voters and it was done with the active support of the very people and the governmental institution (WEC) that were supposed to be guarding the Wisconsin elections administrative process from the partisan activities they facilitated,” Justice Michael Gableman wrote.
  5. Illegal ballot harvesting in Wisconsin. Gableman also exposed an extensive vote collection operation, known as ballot harvesting, in nursing homes in which third-party activists illegally collected the ballots of vulnerable residents, some of whom lacked the mental or physical capacity to vote or were forbidden from voting by guardianship agreements. State election regulators “unlawfully directed the municipal clerks not to send out the legally required special voting deputies to nursing homes, resulting in many nursing homes’ registered residents voting at 100% rates and many ineligible residents voting, despite a guardianship order or incapacity,” Gableman wrote in his explosive report.
  6. Ballot harvesting probe in the Peach State. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has announced he has opened a criminal investigation into allegations that liberal activists engaged in illegal ballot harvesting, collecting ballots from voters and delivering them in violation of state law. Raffensperger said he is planning to issue subpoenas to identify a whistleblower who admitted he engaged in the operation, and there could be prosecutions. The True the Vote election integrity group says in a formal state complaint that the man, identified as John Doe, admitted his role and identified nonprofits who funded it at $10 per ballot delivered. The watchdog group also claims it has assembled cell phone location records pinpointing the alleged harvesting by as many as 240 activists.
  7. Bad voter signatures? A review of Maricopa County's mail-in ballots in Arizona's 2020 presidential election estimated that more than 200,000 ballots with signatures that did not match voter files were counted without being reviewed, more than eight times the number the county acknowledged.
  8. 50,000 Arizona ballots called into question. An extensive audit by Arizona’s Senate officially called into question more than 50,000 ballots cast in the 2020 election, including voters who cast ballots from residences they had left. The tally in question is nearly five times the margin of Joe Biden’s victory in the state.
  9. Foreign voters found on Texas rolls. An audit of Texas voter rolls identified nearly 12,000 noncitizens suspected of illegally registering to vote and nearly 600 cases in which ballots may have been cast in the name of a dead resident or by a voter who may also have voted in another state. Officials are now in the process of removing the foreign voters and deciding whether prosecutions are warranted.
  10. Foreign voters found on Georgia rolls. An audit by Georgia’s Secretary of State has identified more than 2,000 suspected foreigners who tried to register to vote in the state, though none reached the point of casting ballots. Raffensperger says prosecutions may be forthcoming.
  11. More noncitizen voters. The Gableman investigation in Wisconsin also found noncitizens had made it onto the state voters rolls in violation of state law. The Wisconsin Election Commission failed “to record non-citizens in the WisVote voter database, thereby permitting non-citizens to vote, even though Wisconsin law requires citizenship to vote — all in violation of the Help America Vote Act,” the investigator wrote.
  12. Election Machine Vulnerabilities: Immediately after the November 2020 elections, the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security agency declared there was no hacking or machine vulnerabilities. The Iran hacking case put the lie to the first claim. And last month, the Homeland Security agency admitted in a new report that the popular Dominion Democracy Suite ImageCast X voting system had nine vulnerabilities, most of which include the ability to "install malicious code" on the machines. Federal officials say they don't know of any efforts to exploit those vulnerabilities in 2020, but the reversal in stories has significantly shaken confidence in the bureaucracy's assurances.
  13. Ballot chain of custody issues. The Georgia Secretary of State's office has opened an investigation into the handling of drop box ballots last November in one of the state's Democratic strongholds following a media report that there were problems with chain of custody documentation in DeKalb County.
  14. Fulton County irregularities. Georgia’s handpicked election monitor for Fulton County, the state’s largest voting district, documented two dozen pages of mismanagement and irregularities during vote counting in Atlanta in November 2020, including double-scanning of ballots, insecure transport of ballots and violations of voter privacy. The revelations prompted the state to take steps to possibly put Fulton County in receivership, empowering state officials to run the elections. Most of Fulton County's election officials have left their jobs.
  15. Errant vote counting. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp referred the audited November 2020 election results in Fulton County to the State Election Board after multiple reviews found three dozen significant problems with absentee ballot counting, including duplicate tallies, math errors and transposed data. Kemp’s referral calls into question hundreds of ballots in the official count.
  16. Dirty voter rolls. Michigan’s official state auditor has found that Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson failed to adhere to state election law by properly updating and reconciling Michigan’s qualified voter roll. This oversight, according to the audit, increased the risk of ineligible voters casting ballots.
  17. Illegal exemptions from voter ID. The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled as many as 200,000 voters were allowed to illegally skip voter ID for absentee ballots by claiming they were indefinitely confined by COVID when there was no such legal authority to do so. Biden beat Trump by about 20,000 votes in the state.
  18. Uneven enforcement of election laws. The Wisconsin Legislative Audit Bureau identified more than 30 problems with the administration of elections in 2020, including unlawful orders and uneven enforcement of the law and urged lawmakers to make sweeping improvements.
  19. More illegal harvesting. In Arizona, a half dozen people have already been indicted on charges of illegal harvesting in a probe by Attorney General Mark Brnovich that shows signs of expanding. It comes after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected Democrats' arguments and concluded Arizona’s ban on harvesting was constitutional.
  20. Voter fraud in Michigan. Michigan charged three women in connection with voter fraud schemes, including efforts to cast ballots on behalf of non-consenting nursing home residents.
  21. Still more nursing home fraud. In Wisconsin, Racine County Sheriff Christopher Schmaling announced his investigators have secured evidence that eight out of 42 residents at a local nursing home had been recorded as casting absentee ballots that their families said was not possible because the residents didn't possess the cognitive ability to vote.
Here is a required reading list for anyone interested in the above issues:
Wisconsin Supreme Court Ruling Invalidating Ballot Drop Boxes
File
WISupremeCourtDecisionBallotDropBoxes.pdf


The Gableman Report
File
GablemanReport.pdf


The CISA Dominion Voting Machines Vulnerabilities Reports
File
CISA Dominion Machine Vulnerabilties Report.pdf


Iranian Hackers Indictment
File
IranianHackerVoterDatabaseIndictment.pdf


Georgia state memo on irregularities in Fulton County vote counting
File
FultonCountyIrregularitiesMemo.pdf


Kemp referral on erroneous vote counting
File
Review of Inconsistencies in the Data Supporting the Risk Limiting Audit Report.pdf


Georgia Ballot Harvesting Complaint
File
120121_Complaint_Trafficking_General_and_Run-Off___4_ (1).pdf
 

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There are now nearly two dozen credible confirmations of wrongdoing, irregularities and illegalities that undercut the claims of bureaucrats, journalists and Democrats that the November 2020 general election was flawless.

By John Solomon
Updated: July 15, 2022 - 12:14am

Democrats and their allies in the traditional news media have coined the term the "Big Lie" to dismiss anyone who questions the conduct of the 2020 election.
But with each passing day, new irregularities, security vulnerabilities and illegalities are being unmasked by bombshell revelations from courts, legislators and other investigative bodies like the FBI and Homeland Security Department.
The latest came last week when the Wisconsin Supreme Court declared that state election regulators had no legal authority to allow voters to cast ballots in mobile drop boxes, a jaw-dropping decision that invalidated the way tens of thousands of voters -- many of them Democrats -- cast their ballots,
From Phoenix to Detroit, and Madison to Austin, there are now nearly two dozen credible confirmations of problems that undercut the claims of bureaucrats, journalists and Democrats that the November 2020 general election was perfect. In fact, it was quite imperfect.
And while none of revelations, at this point, will reverse the outcome of the presidential tally or unseat Joe Biden from the White House, they do build a compelling case that the bigger lie was that the 2020 election was flawless.
Here are 21 important revelations uncovered by Just the News over the last 18 months of reporting, complete with substantiating evidence and links:
  1. Illegal ballot drop boxes. The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled earlier this month that the 570 drop boxes used during the 2020 election were unlawfully approved by the Wisconsin Election Commission, "Only the legislature may permit absentee voting via ballot drop boxes," the court declared. "WEC cannot. Ballot drop boxes appear nowhere in the detailed statutory system for absentee voting. WEC's authorization of ballot drop boxes was unlawful." State Rep. Janel Brandtjen told Just the News that hundreds of thousands of votes were cast in the illegal boxes in the 2020 race when Biden and Donald Trump were separated by less than 21,000 votes.
  2. A Foreign Intrusion. Federal authorities have confirmed that two Iranian nationals successfully hacked into a state computer election system, stole 100,000 voter registrations and used the data to carry out a cyber-intimidation campaign that targeted GOP members of Congress, Trump campaign officials and Democratic voters in the November 2020 election in one of the largest foreign intrusions in U.S. election history. The defendants "were part of a coordinated conspiracy in which Iranian hackers sought to undermine faith and confidence in the U.S. presidential election," U.S. Attorney Damian Williams declared in an indictment.
  3. The Laptop Lie: More than 50 national security experts, countless news organizations and large social media firms falsely told American voters in fall 2020 that the Hunter Biden laptop with damning revelations about Biden family corruption was Russian disinformation. In fact, it was a legitimate laptop already in the FBI's possession, and Hunter Biden was already under criminal investigation before voters cast their 2020 ballots. The false narrative had significant impact: polling shows a majority of American voters believe the pre-election censorship of the story amounted to election interference,
  4. Alleged Bribery. The former state Supreme Court justice appointed by the Wisconsin Legislature to investigate the 2020 election concluded that millions of dollars in donations to election administrators in five Democrat-heavy municipalities from the Mark Zuckerberg-funded Center for Tech and Civic Life violated state anti-bribery laws and corrupted election practices by turning public election authorities into liberal get-out-the-vote activists. “The Zuckerberg-funded CTCL/ Zuckerberg 5 scheme would prove to be an effective way to accomplish the partisan effort to 'turnout' their desired voters and it was done with the active support of the very people and the governmental institution (WEC) that were supposed to be guarding the Wisconsin elections administrative process from the partisan activities they facilitated,” Justice Michael Gableman wrote.
  5. Illegal ballot harvesting in Wisconsin. Gableman also exposed an extensive vote collection operation, known as ballot harvesting, in nursing homes in which third-party activists illegally collected the ballots of vulnerable residents, some of whom lacked the mental or physical capacity to vote or were forbidden from voting by guardianship agreements. State election regulators “unlawfully directed the municipal clerks not to send out the legally required special voting deputies to nursing homes, resulting in many nursing homes’ registered residents voting at 100% rates and many ineligible residents voting, despite a guardianship order or incapacity,” Gableman wrote in his explosive report.
  6. Ballot harvesting probe in the Peach State. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has announced he has opened a criminal investigation into allegations that liberal activists engaged in illegal ballot harvesting, collecting ballots from voters and delivering them in violation of state law. Raffensperger said he is planning to issue subpoenas to identify a whistleblower who admitted he engaged in the operation, and there could be prosecutions. The True the Vote election integrity group says in a formal state complaint that the man, identified as John Doe, admitted his role and identified nonprofits who funded it at $10 per ballot delivered. The watchdog group also claims it has assembled cell phone location records pinpointing the alleged harvesting by as many as 240 activists.
  7. Bad voter signatures? A review of Maricopa County's mail-in ballots in Arizona's 2020 presidential election estimated that more than 200,000 ballots with signatures that did not match voter files were counted without being reviewed, more than eight times the number the county acknowledged.
  8. 50,000 Arizona ballots called into question. An extensive audit by Arizona’s Senate officially called into question more than 50,000 ballots cast in the 2020 election, including voters who cast ballots from residences they had left. The tally in question is nearly five times the margin of Joe Biden’s victory in the state.
  9. Foreign voters found on Texas rolls. An audit of Texas voter rolls identified nearly 12,000 noncitizens suspected of illegally registering to vote and nearly 600 cases in which ballots may have been cast in the name of a dead resident or by a voter who may also have voted in another state. Officials are now in the process of removing the foreign voters and deciding whether prosecutions are warranted.
  10. Foreign voters found on Georgia rolls. An audit by Georgia’s Secretary of State has identified more than 2,000 suspected foreigners who tried to register to vote in the state, though none reached the point of casting ballots. Raffensperger says prosecutions may be forthcoming.
  11. More noncitizen voters. The Gableman investigation in Wisconsin also found noncitizens had made it onto the state voters rolls in violation of state law. The Wisconsin Election Commission failed “to record non-citizens in the WisVote voter database, thereby permitting non-citizens to vote, even though Wisconsin law requires citizenship to vote — all in violation of the Help America Vote Act,” the investigator wrote.
  12. Election Machine Vulnerabilities: Immediately after the November 2020 elections, the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security agency declared there was no hacking or machine vulnerabilities. The Iran hacking case put the lie to the first claim. And last month, the Homeland Security agency admitted in a new report that the popular Dominion Democracy Suite ImageCast X voting system had nine vulnerabilities, most of which include the ability to "install malicious code" on the machines. Federal officials say they don't know of any efforts to exploit those vulnerabilities in 2020, but the reversal in stories has significantly shaken confidence in the bureaucracy's assurances.
  13. Ballot chain of custody issues. The Georgia Secretary of State's office has opened an investigation into the handling of drop box ballots last November in one of the state's Democratic strongholds following a media report that there were problems with chain of custody documentation in DeKalb County.
  14. Fulton County irregularities. Georgia’s handpicked election monitor for Fulton County, the state’s largest voting district, documented two dozen pages of mismanagement and irregularities during vote counting in Atlanta in November 2020, including double-scanning of ballots, insecure transport of ballots and violations of voter privacy. The revelations prompted the state to take steps to possibly put Fulton County in receivership, empowering state officials to run the elections. Most of Fulton County's election officials have left their jobs.
  15. Errant vote counting. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp referred the audited November 2020 election results in Fulton County to the State Election Board after multiple reviews found three dozen significant problems with absentee ballot counting, including duplicate tallies, math errors and transposed data. Kemp’s referral calls into question hundreds of ballots in the official count.
  16. Dirty voter rolls. Michigan’s official state auditor has found that Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson failed to adhere to state election law by properly updating and reconciling Michigan’s qualified voter roll. This oversight, according to the audit, increased the risk of ineligible voters casting ballots.
  17. Illegal exemptions from voter ID. The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled as many as 200,000 voters were allowed to illegally skip voter ID for absentee ballots by claiming they were indefinitely confined by COVID when there was no such legal authority to do so. Biden beat Trump by about 20,000 votes in the state.
  18. Uneven enforcement of election laws. The Wisconsin Legislative Audit Bureau identified more than 30 problems with the administration of elections in 2020, including unlawful orders and uneven enforcement of the law and urged lawmakers to make sweeping improvements.
  19. More illegal harvesting. In Arizona, a half dozen people have already been indicted on charges of illegal harvesting in a probe by Attorney General Mark Brnovich that shows signs of expanding. It comes after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected Democrats' arguments and concluded Arizona’s ban on harvesting was constitutional.
  20. Voter fraud in Michigan. Michigan charged three women in connection with voter fraud schemes, including efforts to cast ballots on behalf of non-consenting nursing home residents.
  21. Still more nursing home fraud. In Wisconsin, Racine County Sheriff Christopher Schmaling announced his investigators have secured evidence that eight out of 42 residents at a local nursing home had been recorded as casting absentee ballots that their families said was not possible because the residents didn't possess the cognitive ability to vote.
Here is a required reading list for anyone interested in the above issues:
Wisconsin Supreme Court Ruling Invalidating Ballot Drop Boxes
File
WISupremeCourtDecisionBallotDropBoxes.pdf


The Gableman Report
File
GablemanReport.pdf


The CISA Dominion Voting Machines Vulnerabilities Reports
File
CISA Dominion Machine Vulnerabilties Report.pdf


Iranian Hackers Indictment
File
IranianHackerVoterDatabaseIndictment.pdf


Georgia state memo on irregularities in Fulton County vote counting
File
FultonCountyIrregularitiesMemo.pdf


Kemp referral on erroneous vote counting
File
Review of Inconsistencies in the Data Supporting the Risk Limiting Audit Report.pdf


Georgia Ballot Harvesting Complaint
File
120121_Complaint_Trafficking_General_and_Run-Off___4_ (1).pdf
Lol, what does hunters laptop have to do with a stolen election? Did he swap ballots with the laptop now? And one of your confirmed bombshell truths has a question mark in the title? Seems like they have a bulletproof case.
 
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Lol, what does hunters laptop have to do with a stolen election? Did he swap ballots with the laptop now? And one of your confirmed bombshell truths has a question mark in the title? Seems like they have a bulletproof case.
They suppressed the truth of the Hunter laptop which would have hurt Biden in the election if verified as true at that point.
 

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Lol, what does hunters laptop have to do with a stolen election? Did he swap ballots with the laptop now? And one of your confirmed bombshell truths has a question mark in the title? Seems like they have a bulletproof case.
Maybe people would like to consider that he traded off of his dads office? People certainly cared about accusing the Trumps of that. 10% for the big guy. Imagine if Donald Jr was saving 10% for Papa Trump, no one would care amirite?
 
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I'm sure this will be the one that blows the lid off the whole thing. Those damn Democrats, powerful and calculated enough to rig the presidential election, too dumb to rig the others so they'd actually have control.
 

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Maybe people would like to consider that he traded off of his dads office? People certainly cared about accusing the Trumps of that. 10% for the big guy. Imagine if Donald Jr was saving 10% for Papa Trump, no one would care amirite?
No one disputes that he was profiting off of his dad's office, in fact that's exactly what he was doing. He's a POS but we also didn't elect him.

The "big guy" was more than likely Biden's brother James. But if Joe did something corrupt, he should be charged. So far, there's been no solid evidence that he was involved.

"As vital as James Biden has been in his brother’s personal life, he has also been a potential liability in his political one. His repeated efforts at business deals — sometimes using the family name or enlisting Hunter — have not infrequently ended in recrimination, bankruptcy or lawsuits. In several cases, as noted by ProPublica and in Ben Schreckinger’s book “The Bidens,” associates claimed that James promised to use his status as a Biden to drum up business but didn’t, which he denies."

 
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No one disputes that he was profiting off of his dad's office, in fact that's exactly what he was doing. He's a POS but we also didn't elect him.

The "big guy" was more than likely Biden's brother James. But if Joe did something corrupt, he should be charged. So far, there's been no solid evidence that he was involved.

"As vital as James Biden has been in his brother’s personal life, he has also been a potential liability in his political one. His repeated efforts at business deals — sometimes using the family name or enlisting Hunter — have not infrequently ended in recrimination, bankruptcy or lawsuits. In several cases, as noted by ProPublica and in Ben Schreckinger’s book “The Bidens,” associates claimed that James promised to use his status as a Biden to drum up business but didn’t, which he denies."


No, there is testimony directly tying Joe to "The big guy". Babulinski or whomever it was. Your selective hearing just doesnt allow you to admit it.
 
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No, there is testimony directly tying Joe to "The big guy". Babulinski or whomever it was. Your selective hearing just doesnt allow you to admit it.
I'm aware of what Bobulinski said but I also know his allegations haven't been corroborated.

"A former associate of Hunter Biden has televised his grievances about former Vice President Joe Biden, telling Fox News host Tucker Carlson that the elder Biden was more involved in his son’s overseas business dealings than he has let on.

Tony Bobulinski claimed that emails, text messages and audio recordings he released show the Democratic presidential nominee was entangled in a 2017 venture involving a Chinese firm.

No credible news outlets have reported any wrongdoing or role held by Joe Biden, and Biden’s campaign has denied that their candidate got involved in, or stood to gain from, the venture or any other overseas business arrangements."


Are Bobulinski’s claims credible?
"There’s reason to be skeptical about Bobulinski’s allegations, which credible news organizations have not corroborated. The Associated Press, for example, reported that it could not independently verify Bobulinki’s claims. PolitiFact has not been able to, either.

The Wall Street Journal reviewed his documents and found no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden — or that he was active in his family’s foreign business endeavors, as Bobulinski claimed.


Bobulinski’s overarching claim is that Joe Biden was involved in, and may have profited from, his son and brother’s business dealings in China. He called Joe Biden’s claim that he never played a role in Hunter Biden’s foreign business endeavors "a blatant lie."

But the Journal reported that the text messages and emails Bobulinski shared from 2017 "don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture."

The venture in China "never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals, according to people familiar with the matter," the outlet reported. "Corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden."

The Journal also quoted Gilliar, the British national involved in SinoHawk, as saying he was "unaware of any involvement at any time of the former vice president." Gilliar added that "the activity in question never delivered any project revenue."

 
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I'm aware of what Bobulinski said but I also know his allegations haven't been corroborated.

"A former associate of Hunter Biden has televised his grievances about former Vice President Joe Biden, telling Fox News host Tucker Carlson that the elder Biden was more involved in his son’s overseas business dealings than he has let on.

Tony Bobulinski claimed that emails, text messages and audio recordings he released show the Democratic presidential nominee was entangled in a 2017 venture involving a Chinese firm.

No credible news outlets have reported any wrongdoing or role held by Joe Biden, and Biden’s campaign has denied that their candidate got involved in, or stood to gain from, the venture or any other overseas business arrangements."


Are Bobulinski’s claims credible?
"There’s reason to be skeptical about Bobulinski’s allegations, which credible news organizations have not corroborated. The Associated Press, for example, reported that it could not independently verify Bobulinki’s claims. PolitiFact has not been able to, either.

The Wall Street Journal reviewed his documents and found no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden — or that he was active in his family’s foreign business endeavors, as Bobulinski claimed.


Bobulinski’s overarching claim is that Joe Biden was involved in, and may have profited from, his son and brother’s business dealings in China. He called Joe Biden’s claim that he never played a role in Hunter Biden’s foreign business endeavors "a blatant lie."

But the Journal reported that the text messages and emails Bobulinski shared from 2017 "don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture."

The venture in China "never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals, according to people familiar with the matter," the outlet reported. "Corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden."

The Journal also quoted Gilliar, the British national involved in SinoHawk, as saying he was "unaware of any involvement at any time of the former vice president." Gilliar added that "the activity in question never delivered any project revenue."



haha - im sure the credible news outlets are busy pushing Russian Collusion. None of the news is credible. Literally none. That includes Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC etc. They are all full of shit.

You had Bobulinski, who came with receipts, yet you ignore. Joe is the big guy. Joe got 10%. James was listed in another percentage so that left Joe as the only one not mentioned. He is the Big guy, its not really debatable.
 

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Wrong. Just the news.
Nope... just the rantings of an extreme right wing rag. I bet you've dropped 200+ of these "bombshells" EASY over the last year and a half. How many of these have held up in court as proven? Like I said, Jesus Christ himself could come down and tell you that the election was fair, and you'd be on here telling us all how Jesus was Deep State/NWO and how we'd best be working with the Devil.

You will never accept the results of the election, NEVER. No matter the lack of proof or even the growing pile of overwhelming evidence that even Trump knew he lost and still screamed fraud like the whiny little bitch he is. Trump would rather rip the country apart than admit defeat, because Trump is all about Trump. Just like he always has been and always will be.
 
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haha - im sure the credible news outlets are busy pushing Russian Collusion. None of the news is credible. Literally none. That includes Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC etc. They are all full of shit.

You had Bobulinski, who came with receipts, yet you ignore. Joe is the big guy. Joe got 10%. James was listed in another percentage so that left Joe as the only one not mentioned. He is the Big guy, its not really debatable.
The real problem here is that people don't even know what the news is anymore. All the news networks have "real" news that certainly has some bias associated with it, but is factual. But that news is on at 3pm and is long gone by 6pm when most folks tune in to watch the "news". At that point every station has "political commentators" on. These folks have political agendas and cherry pick the facts of the day to fit that view.
 
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No one disputes that he was profiting off of his dad's office, in fact that's exactly what he was doing. He's a POS but we also didn't elect him.

The "big guy" was more than likely Biden's brother James. But if Joe did something corrupt, he should be charged. So far, there's been no solid evidence that he was involved.

"As vital as James Biden has been in his brother’s personal life, he has also been a potential liability in his political one. His repeated efforts at business deals — sometimes using the family name or enlisting Hunter — have not infrequently ended in recrimination, bankruptcy or lawsuits. In several cases, as noted by ProPublica and in Ben Schreckinger’s book “The Bidens,” associates claimed that James promised to use his status as a Biden to drum up business but didn’t, which he denies."

I know you are smarter than that. The Bidens would not be making Jack shit if it wasn't for influence peddling Joe's positional power. Let's keep it real.
 

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Nope... just the rantings of an extreme right wing rag. I bet you've dropped 200+ of these "bombshells" EASY over the last year and a half. How many of these have held up in court as proven? Like I said, Jesus Christ himself could come down and tell you that the election was fair, and you'd be on here telling us all how Jesus was Deep State/NWO and how we'd best be working with the Devil.

You will never accept the results of the election, NEVER. No matter the lack of proof or even the growing pile of overwhelming evidence that even Trump knew he lost and still screamed fraud like the whiny little bitch he is. Trump would rather rip the country apart than admit defeat, because Trump is all about Trump. Just like he always has been and always will be.
You are still wrong. This story did not come from tgp.
 

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are we really going to complain about familial corruption in the political sphere and ignore the $2b saudi deal kushner got recently?
Absolutely we are. Just like OP will never accept the fact that Donald Trump lost the election, he will never accept that anything Trump does is wrong. Your Saudi deal is a good example, the fact that his daughter got the Chinese patents on her clothing line after 10 years of trying IMMEDIATELY after Trump became President is another. But that's all OK. Because it's DONALD TRUMP.

It's one of the things that really annoy me about both sides of the aisle. Most things are OK when their guy is doing it. But if someone on the other side does it, they scream bloody murder.
 

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Seems odd that they would sue Arizona over requiring proof of identity when most other states already enforce it......


It doesn't seem odd at all if you read the link you posted. And, given the rest of your post, it's obvious you didn't actually read it. Almost no other states do what Arizona is requiring of voters who register using the nvra form (a tiny percentage of overall registrants).

Edit: Scalia wrote the opinion of the supreme court case from 2012 that this law explicitly and intentionally violates. It was a 7-2 decision. And, again, ****ing scalia wrote it.

The requirements explicitly violate prior jurisprudence and are, as usual when it comes to shit like this, entirely ignorant of the voter registration process. Anyone who registers to vote using the nvra form has their citizenship automatically checked by the ssa. It is absolutely unnecessary and redundant to require that they also provide documentary evidence of their citizenship at the time of their registration.

The suit is also going after unnecessary mandates requiring rejection of voter registration applications outside the context of the nvra form that are not material to the person's eligibility to vote.

In short, Arizona is imposing unnecessary, redundant, and restrictive requirements in an effort to make it harder to register to vote. They are abusing a process to prevent people from registering in a way that doesn't, in any way, increase the sanctity of their voter roles.

Rich that Republicans are abusing an administrative process to make it harder for Americans to access a fundamental right of citizenship.
 
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haha - im sure the credible news outlets are busy pushing Russian Collusion. None of the news is credible. Literally none. That includes Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC etc. They are all full of shit.

You had Bobulinski, who came with receipts, yet you ignore. Joe is the big guy. Joe got 10%. James was listed in another percentage so that left Joe as the only one not mentioned. He is the Big guy, its not really debatable.


No one trusts the news anymore because they are full of biased liars instead of reporters. You can thank Jim Comey and the Russian Collusion narrative for that.