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The sh1t could getting ready to hit the fan. The US created this monster and now must deal with it.



BREAKING: Tomorrow could change everything.

If China ignores Trump’s warning, they’ll be hit with 104% tariffs—one of the harshest trade penalties in U.S. history.

This isn’t a bluff. It’s economic warfare.

Here’s what’s really going on:
1.104% isn’t random.
It’s meant to obliterate China’s price advantage and force U.S. companies to bring manufacturing home.
2.It’s not just about trade.
This is about breaking the CCP’s grip on supply chains, tech, and global dominance.
3.Timing is everything.
China’s economy is fragile. BRICS is rising. The U.S. is realigning behind energy, AI, and hard assets.
This move is surgical—and timed for maximum pressure.

If China doesn’t back down tomorrow, this could trigger:
•A new Cold War
•Sudden price spikes
•Major moves in commodities, crypto, and trade currencies
•And possibly… a monetary realignment

Watch closely.
The fuse is lit.
 


Steve Bannon FIRE! 🔥
“Let me repeat this…the people getting hammered are the people financially TIED to shipping all the jobs to CHINA…for those that ever questioned President Trump being a Populist and Economic Nationalist, I hope the last 4 or 5 days have shown that President Trump is DUG IN on YOUR SIDE, the forgotten man and woman. He has put a FULL SHOTGUN BLAST onto the Chinese Communist Party…FULL ON! 54% Tariffs…they can’t exist…it’s NOT SUSTAINABLE…they will COLLAPSE.”
#WarRoom
 
It’s not going to bring any meaningful jobs home, but taking a more aggressive approach to China is where I believe Trump did a better job than his contemporaries. In addition to economic considerations, China has made its ambitions for Taiwan known which presents the highest risk to US military personnel. Ignoring the impacts to the broader global and US economy, an economically wounded China is much less likely to pursue Taiwan in the near future.
 
The sh1t could getting ready to hit the fan. The US created this monster and now must deal with it.



BREAKING: Tomorrow could change everything.

If China ignores Trump’s warning, they’ll be hit with 104% tariffs—one of the harshest trade penalties in U.S. history.

This isn’t a bluff. It’s economic warfare.

Here’s what’s really going on:
1.104% isn’t random.
It’s meant to obliterate China’s price advantage and force U.S. companies to bring manufacturing home.
2.It’s not just about trade.
This is about breaking the CCP’s grip on supply chains, tech, and global dominance.
3.Timing is everything.
China’s economy is fragile. BRICS is rising. The U.S. is realigning behind energy, AI, and hard assets.
This move is surgical—and timed for maximum pressure.

If China doesn’t back down tomorrow, this could trigger:
•A new Cold War
•Sudden price spikes
•Major moves in commodities, crypto, and trade currencies
•And possibly… a monetary realignment

Watch closely.
The fuse is lit.


I am all in on taking it to China
 
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Yesterday, China issued Retaliatory Tariffs of 34%, on top of their already record setting Tariffs, Non-Monetary Tariffs, Illegal Subsidization of companies, and massive long term Currency Manipulation, despite my warning that any country that Retaliates against the U.S. by issuing additional Tariffs, above and beyond their already existing long term Tariff abuse of our Nation, will be immediately met with new and substantially higher Tariffs, over and above those initially set. Therefore, if China does not withdraw its 34% increase above their already long term trading abuses by tomorrow, April 8th, 2025, the United States will impose ADDITIONAL Tariffs on China of 50%, effective April 9th. Additionally, all talks with China concerning their requested meetings with us will be terminated! Negotiations with other countries, which have also requested meetings, will begin taking place immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Donald Trump Truth Social 04/07/25 11:14 AM
 
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China is losing its workforce in the next 20 years. This is all unnecessary.
Can you elaborate here? Not sure I follow. Do you mean relative to labor costs or just the personality of that next generation not performing jobs under "tough" conditions?
 
Can you elaborate here? Not sure I follow. Do you mean relative to labor costs or just the personality of that next generation not performing jobs under "tough" conditions?
Their population is shrinking. They are in a dubious position to say the least. i don't have the time right now but I'll revisit later.
 
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Their population is shrinking. They are in a dubious position to say the least. i don't have the time right now but I'll revisit later.
All good, thanks! I just got back from a sales meeting in Germany with some of my Chinese colleagues where we had much discussion on manufacturing there and had previously been responsible for some equipment transfer that required visits to Suzhou (granted this was more than 10 years ago now).
So I'm very open to hearing other thoughts on the conditions in China.
 
It’s not going to bring any meaningful jobs home, but taking a more aggressive approach to China is where I believe Trump did a better job than his contemporaries. In addition to economic considerations, China has made its ambitions for Taiwan known which presents the highest risk to US military personnel. Ignoring the impacts to the broader global and US economy, an economically wounded China is much less likely to pursue Taiwan in the near future.
I agree. China is an enemy country and should be treated that way. Sure, try and work on good relations with them... I've no problem with that. But they are NOT our friends and work hard every day against our interests. Just like Russia.
 



Deputy Chief of Staff @StephenM: "I believe that China will be forced, very soon, to come to the table for the simple reason that China's economy is completely dependent on its exports to the United States and to the West... China is now discovering, for the first time, that they have met an American president who is not going to be intimidated, who's not going to be bullied, who's not going to be coerced — who's going to stand up for our essential security needs."
 
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Deputy Chief of Staff @StephenM: "I believe that China will be forced, very soon, to come to the table for the simple reason that China's economy is completely dependent on its exports to the United States and to the West... China is now discovering, for the first time, that they have met an American president who is not going to be intimidated, who's not going to be bullied, who's not going to be coerced — who's going to stand up for our essential security needs."
China isn’t a democracy with elections every two years. They’ll be patient and watch the GOP get eviscerated in 2 years time if it doesn’t push back against Trump.

The whole “West” thing meant something until Trump went to war with the EU too. Why are they going to help him for free?

There’s no ****ing national security risk in making Nike shoes in Vietnam. The national security risk is killing our own economy. You can’t finance the military if nobody believes in the dollar.

If I had a penny for every time I heard a Trump voter whine about Biden and inflation, I’d be thrilled even with Trump killing us. Now I’m told the price of goods damn near doubling is necessary and to get over it? Shameless hypocrisy
 
China isn’t a democracy with elections every two years. They’ll be patient and watch the GOP get eviscerated in 2 years time if it doesn’t push back against Trump.

The whole “West” thing meant something until Trump went to war with the EU too. Why are they going to help him for free?

There’s no ****ing national security risk in making Nike shoes in Vietnam. The national security risk is killing our own economy. You can’t finance the military if nobody believes in the dollar.

If I had a penny for every time I heard a Trump voter whine about Biden and inflation, I’d be thrilled even with Trump killing us. Now I’m told the price of goods damn near doubling is necessary and to get over it? Shameless hypocrisy
When Americans are poor with no jobs and no money also being inundated with millions of uneducated disease ridden illegals then it is a national security threat. If you cant see that then you have no hope.
 
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Kevin O’Leary goes off about China theft:

"They cheat, they steal, they steal IP. I can’t litigate in their courts. They take product technology—they steal it, they manufacture it, and sell it back here."

"This is not about tariffs anymore. Nobody has taken on China yet—not the Europeans, no administration for decades. As someone who actually does business there, I’ve had enough."

People need to know how bad this trade relationship has been. Americans need to know the extent we’ve been taken advantage of in foreign trade.
 


The U.S., playing Dirty Harry, stares down China’s precarious economy and growls, “Go ahead, make my day.” Devalue the RMB and sell UST.

China, the most unbalanced economy in modern history, is stuck in the middle-income trap, weighed down by surplus production, overcapacity, and inelastic supply. A rapidly aging population and rising labor costs have left its growth model wobbling. What happens when millions from the countryside lose their jobs as factories slow and exports falter? Social unrest could erupt like a powder keg, while Beijing’s half-hearted reforms offer little relief.

The question is: will China fold under the weight of its own contradictions? Dirty Harry’s challenge hangs in the air.

RMB👇
 


Kip Tom is a farmer in Indiana

Hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent developing seeds

🚨 Chinese nationals are entering America, digging up seed parent lines at night on American farms and shipping the newly developed seed technology back to China

“We were producing seeds for buyers. Chinese nationals were coming out at night, digging up the pure parent lines of the seed that we was producing on our farm, only to be taken to Chicago O'Hare put in a warehouse, and then shipped back to China”

This seems like a national security threat
 
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The key thing is the trade balance. China numbers do not include all the stuff they send here via Mexico, Canada and other nations to beat the tariffs.
As mentioned before, you cannot skirt tariffs by sending stuff to neighboring countries UNLESS it goes through a transformation. For example, you can't just import into Vancouver, truck it into the US, and skirt the Tariffs. You have to pay Country of Origin in that case. Even repackaging wouldn't count.
 
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As mentioned before, you cannot skirt tariffs by sending stuff to neighboring countries UNLESS it goes through a transformation. For example, you can't just import into Vancouver, truck it into the US, and skirt the Tariffs. You have to pay Country of Origin in that case. Even repackaging wouldn't count.
The Trump admin top guys like Bessent and Lutnick are saying China does it on a mass level. China cheats on everything and that's a fact.
 
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Onshore medicine production.




"A Johns Hopkins trained physician walked into the Mayo Clinic one night - the emergency department - because he had some known problem that he self-diagnosed. It's very common, it wasn't a big deal, a healthy guy in his 40s, and they said, 'Well, why don't you stay overnight and we'll work you up tomorrow? Then you can drive back home' - because he was a far distance from home.

Within 24 hours, he was in multiple organ failure and the doctors had no idea what was happening. The next week, his heart was removed, put on a machine, and three or four months later, he died a horrific death.

And it was traced back and went through multi-district litigation, along with hundreds of other cases. It was contaminated blood thinner. The API was made in China. It was a highly sophisticated fake substitute for the real active ingredient and at high levels, it could cause death.

So, the implications of poorly performing drugs - things that are not made properly - is profound. And by the way, this process by which this fake substitute was made? The Chinese government patented it, and it also flew under the radar of testing.

So, another point: testing can get us only so far. Eventually we have to have our medicines made by people who are trustworthy, ethical, and in places where the FDA can do its job and protect the public." @Rosemary100, author of “China Rx”
 
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🚨 TREASURY SECRETARY SCOTT BESSENT JUST SENT A THUNDEROUS WARNING TO THE WORLD 🚨

To every nation cozying up to China right now?

🗣️ “You’ll be cutting your own throat.”

🔥 That’s not a suggestion.
🔥 That’s not diplomacy.
🔥 That’s a BLUNT WARNING from America’s financial war room.

📢 WHAT THIS MEANS:

⚠️ Align with China?
→ You align with economic collapse.
→ You align with debt traps.
→ You align with a CCP supply chain built to ENSLAVE, not empower.
This wasn’t just aimed at Asia.

💥 This was aimed at EUROPE.
💥 This was aimed at the GLOBALIST CLASS still selling out their people for Beijing’s blood money.
Bessent’s message to Spain, Germany, France & every other nation flirting with China:

🚨 America is watching.
🚨 America is ready.
🚨 Choose your future wisely.
Trade with China?
Depend on China?
Trust China?
YOU. WILL. BLEED.

Because America under Trump isn’t playing the old game anymore.

It’s America First vs China’s Globalist Empire.
And the clock is ticking.

🚨 EUROPE — PICK A SIDE.
 
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🚨 ECONOMIC WARFARE: THE U.S. JUST DREW A RED LINE WITH CHINA 🚨

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent isn’t bluffing…

🗣️ “Delisting Chinese stocks from U.S. markets is ON THE TABLE.”

If this happens?

💥 $1.1 TRILLION worth of Chinese companies CUT OFF from American capital.
💥 Wall Street PANIC SELL.
💥 Chinese firms FLEEING to Hong Kong.

🔥 THIS IS ECONOMIC WARFARE IN REAL TIME. 🔥

📢 WHAT THIS MEANS:

⚠️ The U.S. is DONE funding its greatest adversary.
⚠️ No more feeding the CCP with American money.
⚠️ No more Wall Street selling out America for a quick buck.

Meanwhile?

🇨🇳 China fires back — 84% tariffs on American goods.
🇨🇳 Threats. Retaliation. Escalation.
But here’s the TRUTH:
💥 China needs U.S. markets.
💥 The CCP’s worst nightmare? Getting LOCKED OUT.
This isn’t just trade.

🚨 THIS IS THE DECOUPLING OF THE CENTURY.

Trump’s America First is BACK.
Globalism is dying.
Bessent’s message to Beijing?

“The free ride is OVER.”
 
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Chinese are patient and play the long game. Engineering friend who's from China told me yesterday that his family and friends there are astonished at what's happening here. They can't understand how we allowed these people to take power. Said they think that for once, their leadership looks pretty good in comparison.
 
Chinese are patient and play the long game. Engineering friend who's from China told me yesterday that his family and friends there are astonished at what's happening here. They can't understand how we allowed these people to take power. Said they think that for once, their leadership looks pretty good in comparison.

I can understand why Chinese citizens would not like the Trump admin.
 
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Homeland Security Chairman Mark Green - You Thought the Chinese Spy Balloon was Bad? China sent 10k Military personnel into the US

“This chart depicts a massive surge of Chinese Nationals, many of whom are military aged men, many with ties to the PLA, ties to the CCP who have crossed our southern border and just been released by Secretary Mayorkas. We have no idea who these people are.

We already know there is a Chinese listening stations just across 90 miles of ocean in Cuba.

10,000 illegal Chinese Nationals have crossed into the United States & have been released, this fiscal year.”

My Thoughts:
My first immediate thought was TROJAN HORSE. There may come a day where all hell breaks loose & we may or may not face a military invasion, by China or other bad actors.

If that day comes, every single Chinese person should be considered as a threat.

What does that mean?
It simply means be extra cautious if you ever encountered one if we arrive at that point.

People have to understand China is very different than the US. They operate patiently, quietly, & tactfully.

They don’t plan things days, months, or years out. Their plans are decades in the making. Take the 45 Goals of Communism for Example. Read it. Understand it.

They have infiltrated every major sector of the United States, including our political parties. They raise their citizens from birth to be loyal to the CCP, while US citizens are raised to hate our own country.

How valuable would it be to an invading country to already have dedicated CCP loyalists already inside the United States, utilizing guerrilla warfare tactics causing as much internal chaos from within?
 
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