Covid infusion treatment? Ivermectin?

[Essolover4]

Your problem is that your only engagement with any of this stuff involves whatever controversies you perceive around COVID. Doctors follow CDC recommendations and professional society recommendations because they’re based on science. It’s how quackery is avoided. I’m not an expert on COVID by any means, but neither are you. What I am pretty involved in is regulation of medicine, which is why I have a good idea of what’s going on with this stuff and who to listen to. I’m sorry if that upsets your agenda, which, by the way, makes no sense.

Once again you are wrong. Your long diatribes about vaccines and how everyone should get one is literally the same regurgitated bullcrap in every single vaccine thread. You certainly act like you are a Covid expert. The vaccine is not some golden bullet that is right for everyone. There are a ton of people who would be better served not taking the vaccine. My only agenda is tha I choose what I will put into my own body and to let it be known that there are therapeutic treatments out there that work quite well if treated early. You do not need to rely on a vaccine or the government the keep you safe or healthy. But you go right on posing like you know what your talking about. The CDC, WHO, and Faucci have become quite untrustworthy to most sane Americans. Yeah lets wait until your so sick that you need to be hospitalized then we will treat you. Got your booster shot yet?

 

[yoshi121374]

This is exactly what the CDC and others want u to believe. I’ve had multiple Drs tell me that it won’t hurt u. The only reason u hear all the crap about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin us because thr fear is people will choose that over vaccination. I chose both. If I get Covid again, already had it once, u better believe I’ll take the ivermectin prescribed by a Dr.

Once again you are wrong. Your long diatribes about vaccines and how everyone should get one is literally the same regurgitated bullcrap in every single vaccine thread. You certainly act like you are a Covid expert. The vaccine is not some golden bullet that is right for everyone. There are a ton of people who would be better served not taking the vaccine. My only agenda is choose what I put into my own body and to let it be known that there are therapeutic treatments out there that work quite well if treated early. You do not need to rely on a vaccine or the government the keep you safe or healthy. But you go right on posing like you know what your talking about. The CDC, WHO, and Faucci have become quite untrustworthy to most sane Americans. Yeah lets wait until your so sick that you need to be hospitalized then we will treat you. Got your booster shot yet?

Who are these "tons of people" who would be better served not taking a vaccine. This is where your wall of text fails. There are very few reasons that you shouldn't take the vaccine. That's what's so damn frustrating. You guys continue to search for alternative cures when an affective solution already exists.

 

[Essolover4]

Who are these "tons of people" who would be better served not taking a vaccine. This is where your wall of text fails. There are very few reasons that you shouldn't take the vaccine. That's what's so damn frustrating. You guys continue to search for alternative cures when an affective solution already exists.

Pretty much anyone who is under 65 with Zero comorbidities. Look at the data numbnuts. There is no need for an "affective solution" when there is no problem in that group of people. The millions of people who have already had covid and have the antibodies would be better served not taking it. They have better protection than your little spike proteins. Natural immunity is more robust and that has been validated now.

 

[yoshi121374]

Pretty much anyone who is under 65 with Zero comorbidities. Look at the data numbnuts. There is no need for an "affective solution" when there is no problem in that group of people. The millions of people who have already had covid and have the antibodies would be better served not taking it. They have better protection than your little spike proteins. Natural immunity is more robust and that has been validated now.

Again, not true. Why would you try to get sick if there is an affective treatment to avoid it? Dying is not the only poor covid outcome, being sick and missing weeks or work is a pretty terrible thing for a lot of people and businesses.

Your logic is stupid. It makes zero sense to not avoid getting sick. Just dumb.

 

[Essolover4]

Again, not true. Why would you try to get sick if there is an affective treatment to avoid it? Dying is not the only poor covid outcome, being sick and missing weeks or work is a pretty terrible thing for a lot of people and businesses.

Your logic is stupid. It makes zero sense to not avoid getting sick. Just dumb.

I didn’t say try to get Covid. Are you that dull? The VAST majority sail through Covid with no problem and then have a much better defense than the over hyped vaccine that is proving to be less effective every day. I know dying is not the only outcome of Covid. What about the side effects of the vaccine? Blood clots……myocarditis etc. there are risks either way. But there is no reason for healthy, young adults to get the vaccine . There is no reason for anyone who has recovered to get the vaccine. You can’t think for yourself. It’s sad.

 

[yoshi121374]

I didn’t say try to get Covid. Are you that dull? The VAST majority sail through Covid with no problem and then have a much better defense than the over hyped vaccine that is proving to be less effective every day. I know dying is not the only outcome of Covid. What about the side effects of the vaccine? Blood clots……myocarditis etc. there are risks either way. But there is no reason for healthy, young adults to get the vaccine . There is no reason for anyone who has recovered to get the vaccine. You can’t think for yourself. It’s sad.

Interesting. The hospital is filling up with unvaccinated Covid patients. You know what's it's not filling up with? Vaccine side effect sufferers.

 

[Chrisd4cu]

Have friend who is overweight and in mid 50’s with a pulmonary issue. Claimed his pulmonologist told him not to get the vax. He got covid 4 weeks ago. Was very alarmed and afraid as symptoms got worse. He went and got the monoclonal antibody treatment early into his symptoms and immediately started getting better and was never hospitalized. I would go that route.

Thanks for the update on friend that was type info I was looking for. My Dr’s brother was in hospital then took a 3 day script of Ivermectin and was home in 3 days.

I Just got the monoclonal treatment. 2 shots in arm and 2 in stomach. Nurse claims I’ll be feeling better within 24-48 hours.

forgot to mention ivermectin had to be ordered by cvs and a Walgreens refused to fill it. My wife Dr then called the pharmacist at Walgreens and had a come to Jesus talk about Ivermectin. They filled it for her but she’s gonna try the infusion treatment first.

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

This is exactly what the CDC and others want u to believe. I’ve had multiple Drs tell me that it won’t hurt u. The only reason u hear all the crap about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin us because thr fear is people will choose that over vaccination. I chose both. If I get Covid again, already had it once, u better believe I’ll take the ivermectin prescribed by a Dr.

This just makes no sense. What do you think is in it for the CDC? FDA and CDC are feverishly looking for treatments that are effective, which is why FDA gave an EUA to hydroxychloroquine last year... before they had to revoke it because data showed it wasn't working. There are other treatments that have been shown to be much more effective.

It also just doesn't make much sense to me how some people have fixated on certain treatments, and then feel like the lack opposition to those treatments from regulatory agencies somehow further validates them.

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

Once again you are wrong. Your long diatribes about vaccines and how everyone should get one is literally the same regurgitated bullcrap in every single vaccine thread. You certainly act like you are a Covid expert. The vaccine is not some golden bullet that is right for everyone. There are a ton of people who would be better served not taking the vaccine. My only agenda is tha I choose what I will put into my own body and to let it be known that there are therapeutic treatments out there that work quite well if treated early. You do not need to rely on a vaccine or the government the keep you safe or healthy. But you go right on posing like you know what your talking about. The CDC, WHO, and Faucci have become quite untrustworthy to most sane Americans. Yeah lets wait until your so sick that you need to be hospitalized then we will treat you. Got your booster shot yet?

Almost nobody is better served by not taking the vaccine.

 

[Essolover4]

Interesting. The hospital is filling up with unvaccinated Covid patients. You know what's it's not filling up with? Vaccine side effect sufferers.

It’s also not filling up with healthy people under 65 with zero underlying conditions. There may be a few but those are the exceptions and not the rule. It’s not filling up with people who have recovered and have natural antibodies.

 

[Essolover4]

Almost nobody is better served by not taking the vaccine.

You’re wrong . But I get it you make your livelihood in the medical industry. Follow your pied Piper Faucci.

 

[T.A. Fulmer]

Once again you are wrong. Your long diatribes about vaccines and how everyone should get one is literally the same regurgitated bullcrap in every single vaccine thread. You certainly act like you are a Covid expert. The vaccine is not some golden bullet that is right for everyone. There are a ton of people who would be better served not taking the vaccine. My only agenda is tha I choose what I will put into my own body and to let it be known that there are therapeutic treatments out there that work quite well if treated early. You do not need to rely on a vaccine or the government the keep you safe or healthy. But you go right on posing like you know what your talking about. The CDC, WHO, and Faucci have become quite untrustworthy to most sane Americans. Yeah lets wait until your so sick that you need to be hospitalized then we will treat you. Got your booster shot yet?

The CDC isn’t political folks, all science all the time….🙄

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The CDC issued a guide last week for “inclusive communication,” cautioning against using certain words it says could imply blame or stigma. In other words, it’s now about fighting “inequity” …

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[beatnuts]

Interesting. The hospital is filling up with unvaccinated Covid patients. You know what's it's not filling up with? Vaccine side effect sufferers.

You are wrong…the upstate hospitals are “full” with unvaccinated Covid patients. We closed our PACU and its completely full already with covid…

 

[81tiger4life]

I had both Pfizer vaccine shots back in April, but contracted Covid 3 weeks ago. My doctor prescribed 3 meds and one of them was Ivermectin 3mg tablets. My main Covid symptoms were a severe sore throat and chest congestion. After only 2 full days on these meds it was as if a switch was turned off. No more sore throat with minimal congestion. After about a week I was fully recovered.

 

[Essolover4]

I had both Pfizer vaccine shots back in April, but contracted Covid 3 weeks ago. My doctor prescribed 3 meds and one of them was Ivermectin 3mg tablets. My main Covid symptoms were a severe sore throat and chest congestion. After only 2 full days on these meds it was as if a switch was turned off. No more sore throat with minimal congestion. After about a week I was fully recovered.

More and more docs are getting on board with ivermectin. That’s a fact.

 

[DW4_2016]

During emergencies where there’s a lot of experimentation going on, especially in initial stages, there is no time for double blind clinical studies. If the CDC had waited on a double blind clinical study for use of steroids for covid treatment we’d have a helluva lot more dead people. That was developed in the early stages and was discouraged initially by the CDC. Im not saying they take everything they receive. They should take all information and analyze. Instead it’s all top down. There needs to be a balance.

Um, if we would have had a 90+% vaccine rate none of this would be an issue anymore. But here we are.

I, for one, won’t subscribe to and experimental medicine. Unless I am already on my death bed from refusing an FDA approved vaccine.

 

[DW4_2016]

More and more docs are getting on board with ivermectin. That’s a fact.

95%+ of doctors are vaccinated, but that is an insignificant stat. This one is the one that matters.

It’s science

 

[NationalChamps16]

DO NOT TAKE Ivermectin. This is a very unsafe and unproven drug to treat Covid and is used to deworm horses. There may be some human uses for it but the FDA and CDC has explicitly warned against it for use against Covid

Literally is FDA approved down to age 10 to treat scabies. Only unsafe if you go to the local Tractor Supply out of desperation and take animal meds. Why don’t you actually read some data vs just looking at what CNN says. Tons of literature available that shows benefit. Just not as profitable for companies like Merck.

 

[Essolover4]

95%+ of doctors are vaccinated, but that is an insignificant stat. This one is the one that matters.

It’s science

I wonder how many work for hospital systems that required it?

 

[108ridgee]

Seems like maybe you have a lack of critical thinking. It is one thing to test thoroughly before you give it to the masses to make sure that first, it doesn’t cause damage / make things worse and then secondly actually has a benefit.

The fact is, it has been given to 100’s of millions of people over 40 years. There are none to negligible side affects. Wouldn’t that seem to indicate that number 1 has been settled?

We can debate if it has any benefit for Covid, i am not suggesting it does or doesn’t, but to claim it isn’t safe at this juncture is just stupid.

do you think the Covid vaccines are safe? based on scientific evidence that it’s been given to billions of people with “none to negligible” side effects (to quote you).

 

[castlesl]

do you think the Covid vaccines are safe? based on scientific evidence that it’s been given to billions of people with “none to negligible” side effects (to quote you).

The vaccine that has been existence for Less than a year? I think it is very evident it won’t cause major harm in the first 8 months.

Now does it leave young men sterile after 2 years and women unable to concieve after 3 years? I don’t know, I certainly hope not, but this is what i do know. The people that made it don’t know the answer to that question either.

 

[TigerGrowls]

This just makes no sense. What do you think is in it for the CDC? FDA and CDC are feverishly looking for treatments that are effective, which is why FDA gave an EUA to hydroxychloroquine last year... before they had to revoke it because data showed it wasn't working. There are other treatments that have been shown to be much more effective.

It also just doesn't make much sense to me how some people have fixated on certain treatments, and then feel like the lack opposition to those treatments from regulatory agencies somehow further validates them.

These organizations are the medical mafia. The gatekeepers for big pharma who are looking to make billions of dollars in profits off these vaccines with govt guaranteed payments and protections from being sued by adverse affects from the vaccines. They will not tolerate any cheap effective alternatives to the vaccines. I think one of the requirements for the emergency authorizations being approved was that no alternative treatments were available. I am highly sure that HcQ and ivermectin are effective, but I have not even taken those. I am not vaccinated and feel great. I do take zinc, D3, C, and K supplements daily though.

 

[DW4_2016]

I wonder how many work for hospital systems that required it?

By the time that statistic existed, none.

 

[clemben]

The vaccine that has been existence for Less than a year? I think it is very evident it won’t cause major harm in the first 8 months.

Now does it leave young men sterile after 2 years and women unable to concieve after 3 years? I don’t know, I certainly hope not, but this is what i do know. The people that made it don’t know the answer to that question either.

Have fertility rates or patterns changed at all in the US since the vaccine? No. Why would that magically start happening at the 2 year or 3 year mark? What about the vaccine just starts to magically kick in at that point to make you sterile? If you want to get sciency and technical--there is no evidence that antibodies against spike proteins of covid would act like anti-Syncytin-1 antibodies and mess up the placenta in any way.

It certainly doesn't impact young males in any way--sperm counts are the same (Gonzalez DC, Nassau DE, Khodamoradi K, et al. Sperm Parameters Before and After COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination. JAMA. Published online June 17, 2021. doi: 10.1001/jama.2021.9976).
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But--someone posts something about ivermectin and y'all run out and start putting it on your feet and arm pits and crapping yourselves because...there are a few studies that it can work as an antiviral with the flu, but nothing definitive.

I actually am not against a doctor proscribed amount of ivermectin--if you take the wrong dose you will strip the lining of your intestines, don't mess around with it and if you feel sick at all for prolonged periods you should stop taking it (and it will have all kinds of side effects and can mess you up in lots of ways--it is designed to get rid of parasites, it is a nasty drug for sure).

But the way to go is monoclonal antibodies--regeneron--if you get sick within the first 10 days. Just like Trump had. Can't stress that enough--it is expensive for health providers and they don't want to do it, but it works. That is if you are vaccinated or unvaccinated.

 

[clemben]

And my final word on Ivermectin (I'm trying to be helpful here for once), I asked a research/doctor about the studies on ivermectin as an antiviral, since it was tested on the flu years ago (this was in text form):

yeah it works well in a test tube

seems to choke intracellular movement of viruses by binding to membrane channels

so you can see the issue right away. it is more effective against certain parasites, but it also affects our cells

so it seems that the high doses needed to slow down viral reproduction in humans are also high enough to start killing human cells

it becomes a poison at the needed high dosage

so yes ivermectin is safe in doses needed to treat head lice and roundworms. but the safety profile for doses needed to be effective against viruses isn't known/the results aren't encouraging to this point

my guess is it could be useful as a prophylactic low dose for 3-5 days after known direct contact with virus carrier. but that's hard to test

 

[Essolover4]

 

[SconnyTiger25]

2019 CDC Memo on Ivermectin Resurfaces, Blows a Hole in Media's Narrative

Check this out.

resistthemainstream.org

 

[SconnyTiger25]

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It does work and shameful people push for vaccines that don’t work in lieu of a much cheaper and safer alternative.

 

[Essolover4]

It does work and shameful people push for vaccines that don’t work in lieu of a much cheaper and safer alternative.

It’s criminal that they’re trying to make it so difficult to get. Don’t want to cut into those profits lol. The good news is more doctors are getting on board every day. These are the shenanigans that make all of the giant “public health” organizations impossible to trust.

 

[SconnyTiger25]

some items to chew on here.

Proof that the pandemic was planned & with purpose | Principia Scientific Intl.

A group of over 500 medical doctors in Germany called ‘Doctors for Information’ made a shocking statement during a national press conference: (1) ‘The Corona panic is a play. It’s a scam. A swindle. It’s high time we understood that we’re in the midst of a global crime.’ This large group of...

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[AugTig]

some items to chew on here.

Proof that the pandemic was planned & with purpose | Principia Scientific Intl.

A group of over 500 medical doctors in Germany called ‘Doctors for Information’ made a shocking statement during a national press conference: (1) ‘The Corona panic is a play. It’s a scam. A swindle. It’s high time we understood that we’re in the midst of a global crime.’ This large group of...

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I sure hope this world wakes up soon before it’s too late.

 

[DW4_2016]

some items to chew on here.

Proof that the pandemic was planned & with purpose | Principia Scientific Intl.

A group of over 500 medical doctors in Germany called ‘Doctors for Information’ made a shocking statement during a national press conference: (1) ‘The Corona panic is a play. It’s a scam. A swindle. It’s high time we understood that we’re in the midst of a global crime.’ This large group of...

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Proof*

 

[jakefest]

What's crazy to me is the lack of willingness of a portion of the population to be open to an alternative treatment measure. Just watching the Joe Rogan news and it's cray how many just wanted him to remain sick vs actually be an example of an alternative treatment that worked. It's like people were rooting for the virus.

Even if you've had the vaccine, you still may get sick and you still may need to be treated with something like these alternative options. Whilst I get we still have a large percentage of unvaccinated, I think encouraging the vax and exploring these new treatment measures are going to have to work in tandem if we ever want to get out of this mess.

The challenge with ivermectin is people are honestly stupid and will try and buy it from a seed and feed store which isn't the same composition as what they prescribe for humans. It's like the lady that used gorilla glue in her hair and said there wasn't a warning on the label when she realized she was f*cked........you just can't fix stupid

 

[jakefest]

What's crazy to me is the lack of willingness of a portion of the population to be open to an alternative treatment measure. Just watching the Joe Rogan news and it's cray how many just wanted him to remain sick vs actually be an example of an alternative treatment that worked. It's like people were rooting for the virus.

Even if you've had the vaccine, you still may get sick and you still may need to be treated with something like these alternative options. Whilst I get we still have a large percentage of unvaccinated, I think encouraging the vax and exploring these new treatment measures are going to have to work in tandem if we ever want to get out of this mess.

The challenge with ivermectin is people are honestly stupid and will try and buy it from a seed and feed store which isn't the same composition as what they prescribe for humans. It's like the lady that used gorilla glue in her hair and said there wasn't a warning on the label when she realized she was f*cked........you just can't fix stupid

In addition to the above, I just read that a clinic in Colorado refused to give Candace Owens a covid test because she isn't vaccinated and has been on the "other"side of how best to approach the virus. First, that's certainly the business owners right to do so but then you have to be willing to accept that you can't force a bakery to make a birthday cake for a gay couple at the same swipe at private business rights. We are running down a path where social stance/opinion is more important than general morals.

Also, let's not forget we treat the following without judgement or refusal of treatment:

-Murderers
-Criminals
-Overdoses
-Drug addicts
-Drunk Drivers that are injured hitting innocent people
-Enemies injured in battle
-Cop killers
-gang bangers
-Alcoholics
-Morbidly obese (without a medical condition)
-Smokers
-People injured in accidents that weren't wearing seat belts

Imagine being shipped off to combat and having to treat the guy that just tried to kill you because some suit that's never been shot at decides those are the rules of engagement. Try to put some of this into perspective

 

[SconnyTiger25]

Feel sorry for the kids just trying to fight for our country

Military Exemptions for the COVID Vaccine Mandate

Why prior COVID-19 infection matters

technofog.substack.com

 

[fcctiger12]

I've got a bunch of Heartgaurd to sell all of you anti-vaxxers. Only $20 a pill. Plus, it is beef flavored.

 

[fcctiger12]

some items to chew on here.

Proof that the pandemic was planned & with purpose | Principia Scientific Intl.

A group of over 500 medical doctors in Germany called ‘Doctors for Information’ made a shocking statement during a national press conference: (1) ‘The Corona panic is a play. It’s a scam. A swindle. It’s high time we understood that we’re in the midst of a global crime.’ This large group of...

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I think you might be overdosing on your dewormer if you believe that crazy load of crap in that article.

A Rothschild patented a Covid-19 test in 2015? So this is all an evil plan of the New World Order and the Trilateral Commission? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[SconnyTiger25]

I think you might be overdosing on your dewormer if you believe that crazy load of crap in that article.

A Rothschild patented a Covid-19 test in 2015? So this is all an evil plan of the New World Order and the Trilateral Commission? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

You can look up patents, prove it wrong if you are able, the links are there.

 

[fcctiger12]

You can look up patents, prove it wrong if you are able, the links are there.

So this is your proof? Holy shit, you are insane. This is obviously two different pictures cropped together. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[WapPride]

And my final word on Ivermectin (I'm trying to be helpful here for once), I asked a research/doctor about the studies on ivermectin as an antiviral, since it was tested on the flu years ago (this was in text form):

yeah it works well in a test tube

seems to choke intracellular movement of viruses by binding to membrane channels

so you can see the issue right away. it is more effective against certain parasites, but it also affects our cells

so it seems that the high doses needed to slow down viral reproduction in humans are also high enough to start killing human cells

it becomes a poison at the needed high dosage

so yes ivermectin is safe in doses needed to treat head lice and roundworms. but the safety profile for doses needed to be effective against viruses isn't known/the results aren't encouraging to this point

my guess is it could be useful as a prophylactic low dose for 3-5 days after known direct contact with virus carrier. but that's hard to test

There’s also this study that says it wrecks your testosterone levels and other issues with male reproduction. I’m unsure on the validity of the study but this would be an incredible self own for the people that like to crow off about how manly they are

Effects of ivermectin and its combination with alpha lipoic acid on expression of IGFBP‐3 and HSPA1 genes and male rat fertility

This study was conducted to evaluate the effects of ivermectin (IVM) with therapeutic dose (injected with 0.56 mg/kg b.wt.) either alone or combined with alpha lipoic acid (ALA) (50 mg/kg b.wt daily)...

onlinelibrary.wiley.com