Cra Cra if true...
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Brilliant work... Aren't these the guys that published that article that illegal immigrants committed almost 40% of the murders in border states between 2008 and 2014?
Why yes, yes they are:
www.politifact.com
But you are correct, that it WOULD be crazy. I'm sure there are folks that Hate Trump in the FBI. I'm sure there are folks that like him there too. Attacking the capitol for that is indeed crazy.
I hate USCjr... But I'm not going to go throw a few Molitov cocktails into dorm buildings on campus or maybe into the crowd in front of WB. Because that would be both wrong AND crazy. Not to mention that congress was about to confirm Biden's election. If you hate Trump, that was the nail in the coffin right there.. the LAST chance for Trump to hold on to the Presidency that he was clearly trying to do. Biden supporters have no reason to delay that while Trumpian had EVERY reason to.
Why yes, yes they are:
Tom Tancredo muffs illegal immigrant murder stats
As several of Donald Trump’s Republican opponents have pointed out, his fiery statements on any given subject strike a c
www.politifact.com
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But you are correct, that it WOULD be crazy. I'm sure there are folks that Hate Trump in the FBI. I'm sure there are folks that like him there too. Attacking the capitol for that is indeed crazy.
I hate USCjr... But I'm not going to go throw a few Molitov cocktails into dorm buildings on campus or maybe into the crowd in front of WB. Because that would be both wrong AND crazy. Not to mention that congress was about to confirm Biden's election. If you hate Trump, that was the nail in the coffin right there.. the LAST chance for Trump to hold on to the Presidency that he was clearly trying to do. Biden supporters have no reason to delay that while Trumpian had EVERY reason to.
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Yep... It's crazy. And realize that attacking the source doesn't mean that the source isn't correct. They could be right. BUT when a source is questionable or even mixed, you need to take what they say with a grain of salt. And that usually means looking at where THEY got their information.
As an example, I don't source CNN or Fox articles, even though they are "mostly" factual (the news articles, not their BS political commentators) without going to THEIR sources b/c both of them tend to slant their articles toward the left and right respectively.
Let me ask, what makes you feel that this source is truthful when they have a history of being untruthful? I assume it's because you like and agree with what they are saying.
Your presupposition is that your left-ish networks and blogs are 100% accurate. You know that's not the case. I know it too and parse it out. Notice the header "if true"...but you read wtf you want.
In the immediate aftermath of Jan 6th, I was watching the coverage and there was a replay from before the Capitol was breached. It was from somewhere inside the Capitol, you could see several guards in a lobby looking area in front of two double doors leading to the outside. In the windows of the doors you could see the mob outside, but directly in front of the doors there was a young guy, probably in his early 30's, wearing a Carhartt jacket and a black skull cap.
During the shot, the man turned around to face the door and the camera. You could see him motion toward the middle of the door and mouth the words "Go ahead and unlock the door". It struck me as odd then, but the man's demeanor wasnt anger, fear, nor panic .... but it was rather, casual, conversational, as if he was telling a colleague what to do.
I have only seen that clip once .....
Im not saying Jan 6th was all a operation/false flag by the deep state ... ya know ... the typical stuff @TigerGrowls posts ... but I wouldnt be surprised one bit.
During the shot, the man turned around to face the door and the camera. You could see him motion toward the middle of the door and mouth the words "Go ahead and unlock the door". It struck me as odd then, but the man's demeanor wasnt anger, fear, nor panic .... but it was rather, casual, conversational, as if he was telling a colleague what to do.
I have only seen that clip once .....
Im not saying Jan 6th was all a operation/false flag by the deep state ... ya know ... the typical stuff @TigerGrowls posts ... but I wouldnt be surprised one bit.
I dont know if this is true or not but would anybody actually be surprised if it turned out to be true? I'm no Trump fan but it's obvious that politicians on both sides of the aisle are terrified of Trump and the fact that people are waking up across America and realizing just how corrupt our government is. They will stop at nothing to get him out of politics.
Trump is a candidate that appeals to the working class, common sense, salt of the earth type of people and our government only wants useful idiots that keep their mouths shut, pays their taxes and doesnt question their authority. All these career politicians who have made out like bandits over the years do not want a guy in the game who isn't a politician and has no respect for the established standard operating procedures of American politics.
Hell even the people at the Capitol on January 6th smelled a rat and were actually chanting "Fed! Fed! Fed!" at Ray Epps as he was trying to tell people they needed to go to the Capitol and get inside the building. It was all on video and he didn't even get locked up for inciting a riot but the nut with the horns and painted face who was walking around being escorted by the police sat in jail for how long?? If he was such a threat and inciting a riot why didn't the 10 or 12 cops he came in contact with cuff him and take him away? They were practically giving the guy a tour.
What we have is a bunch of establishment politicians all pissed off because their fortress was breached, their establishment was threatened, they thought their luck had run out and the people had enough and the jig was up. They had to scurry like the frightened little rats that they are and they were scared that their house of cards was about to be blown away by the big bad American wolf AKA the working stiffs they've been screwing over for decades.
They had no problems sitting on their asses while their voters rioted, looted and burned parts of American cities, killing cops and civilians in the process. The same "defund the police" morons were handing out medals to the cops that protected their sorry asses at the Capitol but didn't give a damn about the cops protecting the regular people. Hell some of them were raising money to bail the rioters and looters out of jail (hello Cackling Kamala).
These politicians don't give a damn about us and they can't stand to see average every day Americans uniting behind a brash, brutally honest, anti establishment candidate running for the highest office in the land. A united people is a nightmare for these politicians so they will do everything in their power to keep us divided and eliminate anyone who threatens their "business" of politics by encouraging the people to take their power away by voting their asses out and sending them back to where they came from. The quicker people realize the government is not our friend the better off everybody will be.
Trump is a candidate that appeals to the working class, common sense, salt of the earth type of people and our government only wants useful idiots that keep their mouths shut, pays their taxes and doesnt question their authority. All these career politicians who have made out like bandits over the years do not want a guy in the game who isn't a politician and has no respect for the established standard operating procedures of American politics.
Hell even the people at the Capitol on January 6th smelled a rat and were actually chanting "Fed! Fed! Fed!" at Ray Epps as he was trying to tell people they needed to go to the Capitol and get inside the building. It was all on video and he didn't even get locked up for inciting a riot but the nut with the horns and painted face who was walking around being escorted by the police sat in jail for how long?? If he was such a threat and inciting a riot why didn't the 10 or 12 cops he came in contact with cuff him and take him away? They were practically giving the guy a tour.
What we have is a bunch of establishment politicians all pissed off because their fortress was breached, their establishment was threatened, they thought their luck had run out and the people had enough and the jig was up. They had to scurry like the frightened little rats that they are and they were scared that their house of cards was about to be blown away by the big bad American wolf AKA the working stiffs they've been screwing over for decades.
They had no problems sitting on their asses while their voters rioted, looted and burned parts of American cities, killing cops and civilians in the process. The same "defund the police" morons were handing out medals to the cops that protected their sorry asses at the Capitol but didn't give a damn about the cops protecting the regular people. Hell some of them were raising money to bail the rioters and looters out of jail (hello Cackling Kamala).
These politicians don't give a damn about us and they can't stand to see average every day Americans uniting behind a brash, brutally honest, anti establishment candidate running for the highest office in the land. A united people is a nightmare for these politicians so they will do everything in their power to keep us divided and eliminate anyone who threatens their "business" of politics by encouraging the people to take their power away by voting their asses out and sending them back to where they came from. The quicker people realize the government is not our friend the better off everybody will be.
And there's the problem... You wouldn't be surprised one bit.
So what you are saying is that the protesters outside that were spraying and hitting cops and breaking windows in the Capitol and chanting Hang Mike Pence. Were all fake. I'm guessing that the capitol police must have been in on it too... because the folks that were holding the doors just decided to let them in based on some "director's" orders? If I'd been getting the shit kicked out of me for the past hour or so... I don't know if I'd be down with the film crew ordering me to open the doors so they could do it some more.
This is a case where you "hear hoofbeats" and you say that you wouldn't be surprised one bit if a heard of unicorns was going past. Nope, it was horses. Trump's folks got out of hand and attacked the capitol. I'd be VERY surprised if it wasn't.
didnt say that at all.
I just found the clip odd, and I wish I could find it ... like I said I saw it once and never again. And also , it wasnt the face of someone who was stressed in anyway.
I tend to agree with you and others ... MAGA radicals got out of hand.
but ... lets put aside the pro-Trump rhetoric for a second (i.e. it was the deep state out to get him). If you believed, honestly believed, that Trump would be the downfall of our country and you knew that anything you said Trump would turn back against you and also knew that you could get moderates to abandon Trump by showing that he and his people are a threat to the country .... what would you be willing to do?
I mean ... stay with me a second more ... I have been very critical of the BLM Riots of 2020, but I also agree that the majority of the protests were overwhelmingly peaceful, and I will also concede that even the most violent "protests" didnt start that way. All it took was a few bad actors, with a purpose, to send those protests into a downward violent spiral. We (humans) devolve quickly into chaos in a mob environment. And ... its not like we havent seen agencies within our Government (CIA) do similar things (i.e plant agents with a purpose in a crowd to incite more violence) in foreign countries (Arab Spring and revolutions in South America).
again, I tend to agree with you ... I do hear these "hoof beats", and where I dont believe it could be a herd of Unicorns .... it could be a herd of Zebras. Unlikely, sure .... but still a possibility and one that really wouldnt surprise me.
Ive made my opinion on Trump clear, I dont like him ... I think he is a awful human being and a loser, and I have not and will not vote for him
I appreciate the response and hope you have a great rest of your day.
Cmon man, if you're talking about this clip, it's a policeman and he sprays the first guy through the window with pepper spray. Another guy then kicks the door open from the inside.
Go to 13:00 min mark
No one on here is going to actually read the legally filed motions and sworn testimony filed from the defending attorneys that the website highlights, instead they will sh*t all over the source and call it disinformation.
With each new case, more undercover agents are identified. That's the trend
Remember, hopeful reads wtf he wants. He has a strawman already built in his head for you.
