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I guess I would be considered a liberal. I hate what's happening in Afghanistan, but I'm not sure what else we could or should be doing. We've spent 20 years there and at some point they have to decide what they want to be. We have certainly seen that nation building with the military doesn't seem effective.

I think that this situation is a long term fail with a lot of blame that can go all around throughout multiple presidencies.

My rudimentary understanding is that we have been withdrawing for a long and time, and that this was basically ripping off the band-aid. I certainly think it's fair to question if that was the right move,but I don't know what would have worked better.

At the end of the day, the Afghans don't seem willing to fight the Taliban or Sharia law, apparently that is what they are choosing.
 
The Taliban were just on social media answering questions for the media........literally, a terrorist organization sitting in front of a bunch of media taking questions.

Monkey f*cking a football
But Trump's been banned and the DHS has labeled Americans who question government policies as "Domestic Terrorists."
 
All our liberal friends on here who are usually very willing to bless us with their intellectual supremacy seem to be on vacation. Maybe they’re with their disgrace of a President at camp David sharing an ice cream cone and telling jokes to each other

you put me on ignore you beta cuck bitch boy. How many other "libs" have you ignored b/c we continually destroy you on here.
 
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The Taliban were just on social media answering questions for the media........literally, a terrorist organization sitting in front of a bunch of media taking questions.

Monkey f*cking a football

A Taliban news conference? Awesome!

Someone should ask them if they appreciated that Trump had one of their founders and another 5000 of them released from prison prior to the US pulling out of Afghanistan. I am sure that gave the Afghan military a huge vote of confidence.

Pompeo and Trump should be investigated for treason.
 
A Taliban news conference? Awesome!

Someone should ask them if they appreciated that Trump had one of their founders and another 5000 of them released from prison prior to the US pulling out of Afghanistan. I am sure that gave the Afghan military a huge vote of confidence.

Pompeo and Trump should be investigated for treason.
Dude, you're really still trying? Biden just told American's he can't guarantee their safe exit from Afghanistan and you're here talking about Trump and Pompeo......the clown car doesn't have air bags, I hope you're wearing your seat belt.
 
Dude, you're really still trying? Biden just told American's he can't guarantee their safe exit from Afghanistan and you're here talking about Trump and Pompeo......the clown car doesn't have air bags, I hope you're wearing your seat belt.

Biden just told American's he can't guarantee their safe exit from Afghanistan

link? Can't find that anywhere.
 
Biden just told American's he can't guarantee their safe exit from Afghanistan

link? Can't find that anywhere.
 

Oh for ****'s sake. That is what you interpreted as "Biden tells Americans he can't guarantee their safe exit"?


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Oh for ****'s sake. That is what you interpreted as "Biden tells Americans he can't guarantee their safe exit"?


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How will they get to the airport if he can't promise safe passage? We going to ask the Taliban if they offer Uber service?
 
Even better........the Taliban just gave us until Sep 11th to get out of Afghanistan. The whole world is laughing at us and you're here still trying to prosecute Trump.

Where is Kamala? At the border?
you're yelling at yourself now. maybe take a break from the internet for the rest of the day
 
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you seem real angry. your god wouldnt be happy with that.
Sorry fella or whatever pronoun you use, you have me confused with someone else. Not too concerned with what god thinks.

Angry? Sure......left lots of things in Afghanistan that I'll never get back as did many others but I'm really more excited about being right .......right about Biden being a total f*cking disaster.
 
Open southern border and now they are flying in from Afghanistan. We are in some serious trouble.
 
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you seem real angry. your god wouldnt be happy with that.

Don't even bother in this thread. There is another thread on Afghanistan with more intelligent and reasonable people discussing. This thread is full of stone cold losers and trump cult members who refuse to admit that Trump had any hand at all in what is happening in Afghanistan.

Plus this thread was started by a beta cuck who puts "libs" on ignore and then starts threads saying "where are all of the libs?" You can't make this shit up. Sad!
 
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We just handed the Taliban and Al Qaeda more than 6 SE drones, MRAPS, Humvees, M4's, M240's, MBT LAWs, 50 cals, NODS, a variety of sniper rifles...... etc. Those drones will be sold to China and Russia so they can pillage our technology and the rest gets distributed to fighting forces.

If we have to return to collect our 10,000 left behind Americans, things just got exponentially harder given we shutdown our most critical airbase and it's now secured and held by the Taliban. If surrounding countries decide not to help us, our fellow Americans could be in real trouble should the historically reasonable and diplomatic Taliban choose to slaughter them or keep them as hostages.

For those that seemingly want to blame a former president, the current one reversed every single policy Trump put in place his first several months in office......a new record of executive orders but he managed to keep this one. Afghanistan as a whole can be blamed on 3 presidents, maybe 4 if you count Bush but at this very moment, one president owned the exit plan that exponentially failed. There was no contingency plan. Those are just the facts.
 
Don't even bother in this thread. There is another thread on Afghanistan with more intelligent and reasonable people discussing. This thread is full of stone cold losers and trump cult members who refuse to admit that Trump had any hand at all in what is happening in Afghanistan.

Plus this thread was started by a beta cuck who puts "libs" on ignore and then starts threads saying "where are all of the libs?" You can't make this shit up. Sad!

I was wrong ......looks like Biden did reverse Trump's deal. Apologies for spreading misinformation.
 

I was wrong ......looks like Biden did reverse Trump's deal. Apologies for spreading misinformation.

holy shit now you are getting your facts from mike pence opinion pieces?????? You are lost my friend.

he really nailed it with his last opinion piece for the WSJ. Some of his staff resigned after the last one because of how dishonest it was.

http://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/there-isnt-a-coronavirus-second-wave-11592327890
 
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@nytigerfan You have your head so far stuck in the sand it’s scary. This isn’t about Trump. It’s about the destruction of our country in 7 months at the hands of Biden and the other yahoos running this country. This will likely change the face of our country and where we stand on the world stage. The situation will likely get exponentially worse. Tens of thousands of Americans could be held hostage. In meantime, our southern border is being flooded and now we are flying in unvetted internationals.

You should reread @jakefest’s last post. He’s exactly right. Too bad your hatred for Trump and partisan politics are getting in the way of rational thinking.
 
How will they get to the airport if he can't promise safe passage? We going to ask the Taliban if they offer Uber service?
Arrgghhhh. Jake you are making do what I hate here, but I have to agree with NY on this one. (I just vomited in my mouth typing that.)

If the State Department has ordered a Noncombatant Evacuation Order (NEO) then it's up to the American citizens to get to selected departure centers. If you have a US Passport, you will be processed and given transportation out of the country to the nearest suitable airport/port/whatever. Whatever it takes to get you out of immediate danger. That may be all the way back to the US. The State Department will send you a bill for the transportation after the fact (literally).

I doubt US forces will leave a safe zone to assist US nationals getting to the airport.
 
We just handed the Taliban and Al Qaeda more than 6 SE drones, MRAPS, Humvees, M4's, M240's, MBT LAWs, 50 cals, NODS, a variety of sniper rifles...... etc. Those drones will be sold to China and Russia so they can pillage our technology and the rest gets distributed to fighting forces.
No sure what an SE drone is....but I am confident that the ANDSF didn't operate any drones.

We didn't had over any of the other stuff. The ANDSF may have, but we haven't. Doesn't matter much, The Taliban don't have the spare parts to maintain most of that stuff.
 
Arrgghhhh. Jake you are making do what I hate here, but I have to agree with NY on this one. (I just vomited in my mouth typing that.)

If the State Department has ordered a Noncombatant Evacuation Order (NEO) then it's up to the American citizens to get to selected departure centers. If you have a US Passport, you will be processed and given transportation out of the country to the nearest suitable airport/port/whatever. Whatever it takes to get you out of immediate danger. That may be all the way back to the US. The State Department will send you a bill for the transportation after the fact (literally).

I doubt US forces will leave a safe zone to assist US nationals getting to the airport.
I've been deployed a few times for NEO's, there is no way the majority of those American Citizens are leaving their dwellings to risk the journey to an airport unless the Taliban are in the streets promising safe passage and our government is directly delivering the same message. What I'm reading and what I'm told from my own contacts is we have done nothing more than secure the airport so the Taliban can't destroy or impede the runway as our heavy planes wouldn't be able to land or take off.
 
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