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Donald Trump Speech in Retrospect

Lolwut? They've lost 36 court cases so for in the last month, that's an actual fact. And I read a good number of the complaints myself. Many of them were tossed because there was no evidence presented. And in many cases, when pressed, trump attorneys (including rudy) admitted in court they weren't alleging fraud.

I get it though, you spent a few hours on Twitter and are now a constitutional law scholar with his finger on the pulse of all 36 of the cases that were tossed out of court. Checks out.
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Still waiting guys:

I challenge you to name 5 things he was responsible for that makes him a great president and please don’t use the word media. The media sucks but exposing them isn’t what makes a good president.

Some other guys have put lists, but here are some of the things I liked a lot.

- Raised average family yearly income by almost 6K which is more than double of what Bush and Commissar Obama accompished in 16 years.
- Lowest ever recorded unemployment rates for all minority groups.
- Made the US the number one energy producer in the world and ended our dependence on middle east oil.
- Replaced one of the worst agreements ever NAFTA with the USMCA which is a huge improvement.
- First POTUS to stand up to China and stop their figurative rape of the US by imposing the tariffs that pushed China to sign the phase one trade agreement. Trump astutely knew that the US still holds the leverage with China at this time and that we better use it while we can. The US created this communist monster Chinas....funded by US taxpayers.
-Overall tax plan that benefitted the middle class across the board and has companies coming back onshore via lower taxes and the fact that he started putting tariffs on their goods created offshore in certain cases. Fair trade only.
- His US first doctrine and his love for our country. No apology tour from this POTUS.
-Criminal Justice reform. Funded HBCU's for ten years.
-Middle East peace. Bringing the troops home.
- Building the WALL! Made Mexico start guarding the southern border. Ended catch and release.
-Destroyed ISIS in short order. Why wouldnt Obama do it when he was there?????
-Rebuilt depleted US military.
-Made NATO members start paying their fair share.
-Signed the favored nations orders which will start dramatically driving down prescription drug costs this coming year.
-Herculean performance fignting the china virus. For those that want it, there is a vaccine created in record time. Created enough ventilators to stock the entire world. Yes, the china virus was a bio weapon released in concert by China and the commie dem party to take down Trump.


I could go on and this is just off the top of my head. I am sure I have forgotten stuff. Trump will be POTUS for another 4 years.
 
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Some other guys have put lists, but here are some of the things I liked a lot.

- Raised average family yearly income by almost 6K which is more than double of what Bush and Commissar Obama accompished in 16 years.
- Lowest ever recorded unemployment rates for all minority groups.
- Made the US the number one energy producer in the world and ended our dependence on middle east oil.
- Replaced one of the worst agreements ever NAFTA with the USMCA which is a huge improvement.
- First POTUS to stand up to China and stop their figurative rape of the US by imposing the tariffs that pushed China to sign the phase one trade agreement. Trump astutely knew that the US still holds the leverage with China at this time and that we better use it while we can. The US created this communist monster Chinas....funded by US taxpayers.
-Overall tax plan that benefitted the middle class across the board and has companies coming back onshore via lower taxes and the fact that he started putting tariffs on their goods created offshore in certain cases. Fair trade only.
- His US first doctrine and his love for our country. No apology tour from this POTUS.
-Criminal Justice reform. Funded HBCU's for ten years.
-Middle East peace. Bringing the troops home.
- Building the WALL! Made Mexico start guarding the southern border. Ended catch and release.
-Destroyed ISIS in short order. Why wouldnt Obama do it when he was there?????
-Rebuilt depleted US military.
-Made NATO members start paying their fair share.
-Signed the favored nations orders which will start dramatically driving down prescription drug costs this coming year.
-Herculean performance fignting the china virus. For those that want it, there is a vaccine created in record time. Created enough ventilators to stock the entire world. Yes, the china virus was a bio weapon released in concert by China and the commie dem party to take down Trump.


I could go on and this is just off the top of my head. I am sure I have forgotten stuff. Trump will be POTUS for another 4 years.
Thanks for the feedback but he’s done. He may as well start packing. There’s not enough evidence to turn the election. It won’t even really be a fight
 
Obamacare....wow...that was easy.

Obamacare was a monumental achievement and if you or any of your loved ones have pre-existing conditions, you can thank him directly that you can't be charged more than someone without them, or have your lifetime maximum reached when you still need care. Amazing achievement. God forbid that he wanted to make sure everybody was covered. I know you hated the mandate, but in all honesty, even that wasn't that radical. You don't scream that you're required to pay for your own car insurance so why shouldn't you have to pay for your own medical? Who should pay it? If you have a catastrophic injury or disease while uncovered, and you can't pay, guess who will have to? The people that do pay for their own, that's who. Why are you ok with that? Polls show that the majority of Americans approve of the law and want to keep it and that's why Trump quit talking about destroying it before the election. The problem is, Fox News and the Republicans convinced you it was going to turn the world inside out if it passed....but guess what, it didn't and the horrors they suggested would come from it never materialized. But the narrative stuck that it was of the devil and government overreach blah, blah, blah and like good little sheeple, you went along with the narrative. What you call Socialism is anything the Dems propose that helps all people. How dare they want to help anyone but rich white guys! Damn Communists!
 
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You didn't say anything wrong Jtyler and there's plenty of us that feel the way you do. We hate people that think like him because they really don't think at all. They let that Apricot Asshat tell them what they think and that's a scary thing. He's a bonafide sociopath, dumb as a brick and never tells the truth but they treat his words like Psalms. It's a crazy world so we appreciate people like you who are reasonable and centered. I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.
 
Obamacare was a monumental achievement and if you or any of your loved ones have pre-existing conditions, you can thank him directly that you can't be charged more than someone without them, or have your lifetime maximum reached when you still need care. Amazing achievement. God forbid that he wanted to make sure everybody was covered. I know you hated the mandate, but in all honesty, even that wasn't that radical. You don't scream that you're required to pay for your own car insurance so why shouldn't you have to pay for your own medical? Who should pay it? If you have a catastrophic injury or disease while uncovered, and you can't pay, guess who will have to? The people that do pay for their own, that's who. Why are you ok with that? Polls show that the majority of Americans approve of the law and want to keep it and that's why Trump quit talking about destroying it before the election. The problem is, Fox News and the Republicans convinced you it was going to turn the world inside out if it passed....but guess what, it didn't and the horrors they suggested would come from it never materialized. But the narrative stuck that it was of the devil and government overreach blah, blah, blah and like good little sheeple, you went along with the narrative. What you call Socialism is anything the Dems propose that helps all people. How dare they want to help anyone but rich white guys! Damn Communists!


Regardless of whether it was right or wrong the op asked for an example of socialism started by Obama and AFCA qualifies as that. I am not for Obamacare, but with that said if they can make it work correctly which it wasnt under Obama then I could live with it.
 
Regardless of whether it was right or wrong the op asked for an example of socialism started by Obama and AFCA qualifies as that. I am not for Obamacare, but with that said if they can make it work correctly which it wasnt under Obama then I could live with it.

But it's not Socialism - the citizens don't own the enterprise of health care. That word gets thrown around all the time by Pubs to make any plans by the Dems sound dirty. Sorry but Obama was a great President and the Socialism label didn't match his deeds.
 
But it's not Socialism - the citizens don't own the enterprise of health care. That word gets thrown around all the time by Pubs to make any plans by the Dems sound dirty. Sorry but Obama was a great President and the Socialism label didn't match his deeds.

I disagree. The government taking over medical care under the pretense of providing coverage for all, but requiring forced participation via the tax mandate qualifies as socialism. The rules they put in for companies also made it financially optimal for them to just drop their healthcare plans thereby forcing people to enroll in obamacare or just pay the tax for it. It was a bad program designed to lead to a full fledged single payer program nationwide.

socialism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]

NOUN
  1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
 
I disagree. The government taking over medical care under the pretense of providing coverage for all, but requiring forced participation via the tax mandate qualifies as socialism. The rules they put in for companies also made it financially optimal for them to just drop their healthcare plans thereby forcing people to enroll in obamacare or just pay the tax for it. It was a bad program designed to lead to a full fledged single payer program nationwide.

socialism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]

NOUN
  1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Still don't think it meets that definition. Anyway, It had issues and it wasn't perfect but those issues would have been addressed had Hillary won. It was disgusting that Trump just wanted to destroy it - cause Obama. Where's his plan by the way? Wasn't he supposed to reveal it after the election?
 
I disagree. The government taking over medical care under the pretense of providing coverage for all, but requiring forced participation via the tax mandate qualifies as socialism. The rules they put in for companies also made it financially optimal for them to just drop their healthcare plans thereby forcing people to enroll in obamacare or just pay the tax for it. It was a bad program designed to lead to a full fledged single payer program nationwide.

socialism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]

NOUN
  1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The definition you posted directly contradicts your argument
 
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Lolwut? They've lost 36 court cases so for in the last month, that's an actual fact. And I read a good number of the complaints myself. Many of them were tossed because there was no evidence presented. And in many cases, when pressed, trump attorneys (including rudy) admitted in court they weren't alleging fraud.

I get it though, you spent a few hours on Twitter and are now a constitutional law scholar with his finger on the pulse of all 36 of the cases that were tossed out of court. Checks out.

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Lolwut? They've lost 36 court cases so for in the last month, that's an actual fact. And I read a good number of the complaints myself. Many of them were tossed because there was no evidence presented. And in many cases, when pressed, trump attorneys (including rudy) admitted in court they weren't alleging fraud.

I get it though, you spent a few hours on Twitter and are now a constitutional law scholar with his finger on the pulse of all 36 of the cases that were tossed out of court. Checks out.

 

Lolololol.

What if I told you that, in pennsylvania, and many many other states, people can walk up to a county clerks office or polling center and request an absentee ballot, take it home, and return it at their convenience.

It's laughable how many people are all of a sudden experts on elections. People who will absurdly and willingly make idiotic arguments like this without understanding the whole picture.

These things are easily disproven.
 
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Lolololol.

What if I told you that, in pennsylvania, and many many other states, people can walk up to a county clerks office or polling center and request an absentee ballot, take it home, and return it at their convenience.

It's laughable how many people are all of a sudden experts on elections. People who will absurdly and willingly make idiotic arguments like this without understanding the whole picture.

These things are easily disproven.

What you said disproves nothing. The mere fact that these folks reputedly wanted to vote absentee to avoid going in public is a contradiction if they went to the govt offices to pick up the absentee ballot. 700K is a big number. If you have solid proof of this, then please provide it otherwise you are just doing what you claim Trump supporters are doing.
 
Lolololol.

What if I told you that, in pennsylvania, and many many other states, people can walk up to a county clerks office or polling center and request an absentee ballot, take it home, and return it at their convenience.

It's laughable how many people are all of a sudden experts on elections. People who will absurdly and willingly make idiotic arguments like this without understanding the whole picture.

These things are easily disproven.
What if I told you that in PA and several other of the swing states, that these lax absentee and mail in voting laws were taken to the courts of those states and changed. (Months before and leading up to the election) And our Constitution (which most of u libs want to do away with anyways ) clearly states that the election laws in each state are up to the discretion of the legislative bodies. Not the courts. In that very sense, many of these swing states had unlawful and unconstitutional elections.

And you never answered why there was a 700,000 vote discrepancy in PA in the number of ballots officially sent out and the number that were counted. Who cares if they were picked up at the county offices or it was mailed out. There was an official count of how many went out and 700,000 more were counted. I’m sure you will have some slick b.s. answer, but a blind person can see through this one
 
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Let me preface my comments here by saying I’m very conservative, typically vote republican although not registered as such, and voted for Trump. If he was “the greatest president of all time in respect to be correct policy”, he should have been able to come up with a whole lot more substance during the debates. That statement is either not true or he was too ignorant to actually talk about his record on specific issues.

I’m angry because he blew it and you should be even angrier if you believe what you typed ITT. He blew it not because Biden/Harris kicked his tail. He blew it because he’s too childish and too arrogant to be able to run a successful re-election campaign. People didn’t vote for Biden. They voted against the 75 year old spoiled brat. He screwed it up and let conservatives down because he couldn’t stop patting himself on the back without ever really saying anything. That is certainly not a great leader and not a great president either. He did a lot of good things but most people have no idea what they are.
Thanks Donnie Ego

I could not agree more. I’m also a Republican but Trump is the worst. He’s his own worst enemy and he has no one to blame for his failed reelection but himself.
 
You didn't say anything wrong Jtyler and there's plenty of us that feel the way you do. We hate people that think like him because they really don't think at all. They let that Apricot Asshat tell them what they think and that's a scary thing. He's a bonafide sociopath, dumb as a brick and never tells the truth but they treat his words like Psalms. It's a crazy world so we appreciate people like you who are reasonable and centered. I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.
And I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas ! You are a nice guy !!
 
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I could not agree more. I’m also a Republican but Trump is the worst. He’s his own worst enemy and he has no one to blame for his failed reelection but himself.

If you are truly a Republican then you would blame Trump for a few things. Getting 74 million legal votes wouldn't be one of them.

Hence, you're not a Republican. You're a Democrat trolling Republicans on a football message board.
 
The virus is no more than just the flu and the virus was used to take over the country and our rights. I hate the way people like you think.
You obviously haven’t had anyone close to you contract this ugly virus and you should be thankful for that but you are wrong on this one. I have a 54 year old brother who was down for 3 weeks and still has significant lung damage that his doctors can’t tell him is reversible or not.

I also personally know another man in his 50s who was in the hospital 5 weeks, still requires oxygen 100% of the time, and may require a lung transplant. COVID isn’t the flu pal.

And before you call me whatever silly name you have this week for liberals and people in general who disagree with you, I don’t think we should shut down our economy over it. Just stating facts and that it is as real as can be.
 
You obviously haven’t had anyone close to you contract this ugly virus and you should be thankful for that but you are wrong on this one. I have a 54 year old brother who was down for 3 weeks and still has significant lung damage that his doctors can’t tell him is reversible or not.

I also personally know another man in his 50s who was in the hospital 5 weeks, still requires oxygen 100% of the time, and may require a lung transplant. COVID isn’t the flu pal.

And before you call me whatever silly name you have this week for liberals and people in general who disagree with you, I don’t think we should shut down our economy over it. Just stating facts and that it is as real as can be.

I have far more sympathy for someone who lost their income due to the unconstitutional forced shutdowns.

People get sick every year and are hospitalized because of the flu and they develop complications. There is no need to cause pain to other people. My wife has cancer. She could die. It took over 2 months to start her radiation and chemotherapy treatments. Do you know why? Because the hospitals are under forced covid restrictions. That's why. She will get radiation every day for 8 weeks. I'm not asking for everyone to lockdown and lose their jobs over this.
 
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