ADVERTISEMENT

Dr. Birx Blames the ex-president

Woody1405

Valles Marineris
Gold Member
Jan 16, 2016
713
1,697
93
Over the weekend Dr. Birx who starred in some of the ex-president's reality shows about the pandemic said the ex-president is to blame for the majority of deaths from Covid after the first 100,000. She said he refused to follow medical and scientific advice and as a result we now have 550,000 deaths, The former president recently stated that he often did the opposite of what Dr. Fauci recommended. What an incompetent clown.
 
Well, you are missing out on one important fact, the foremost expert on infectious disease in the world is Donald Trump. He is the smartest person in the room no matter the subject. So he really doesn't need or want their advice.
To be fair, Trump did some good things up front once he realized that the virus WAS NOT a Democratic Hoax. He shut down travel to China (sort of) and Europe. He got the production of ventilators rolling early and our medical system never got blown away (although it was damn close in spots). NY City would have been totally screwed w/o federal help. He got the vaccine efforts rolling early and convinced the drug companies to take the short cuts needed. As Birx said in the interview, there simply wasn't a lot to be done initially. We were going to take it on the chin no matter who was in the WH.

Once the country got shut down, we HAD it whipped. You can see the numbers in late April and May start to drop. We simply opened up too early and that was on Trump. We needed another couple of weeks and then a limited reopening. He made the decision that the economy reopening ASAP was more important and that the summer months would slow the virus (which to be fair it did). But his failure to push mask use and mandate it when and where he could was a disaster. It gave his supporters the impression that we were open and the virus was beaten. That obviously didn't happen and numbers started to climb even in the summer months. Once the fall arrived, things went downhill fast.

I've said it several times on here that Trump's decision making cost him the election. Prioritizing the economy over the health folk's advice and publicly disagreeing with them was a terrible mistake. He made the pandemic political and didn't need to. Hell, I hate Trump and even I don't blame him for the economic troubles. All Trump had to do was listen to his health folks, make sympathetic noises, and look presidential. He'd have won in a landslide.

BUT Trump's got that mouth on him and he's got to run it... even when he has no idea what he's talking about. His rambling at the new conferences let everyone know that he had little knowledge of health policies and human biology in general (and to be fair, he's a business man, so why would he?) . But Trump could never admit THAT. A smart operator here shuts his mouth and follows the guidance of experts that know what he doesn't. That cost him the election.
 
If that's what she says then she doesn't know very much about the United States Constitution. A great portion of the response to this has been managed by the states and that is how it should be. Different states have been hit at different times. A once size fits all solution in a country this big doesn't work. Anyone with a brain should know that.

How about we blame the virus. Look around the world and you can blame the virus for other places too. It's a virus and viruses are going to do what they do regardless of what we do. History provides one example of this after another. All the other stuff is just politicking which is rather disgusting when you're talking about a lot of lives lost. And the number isn't anywhere near 500,000 by the way. That is also scientifically provable.

We say we want to follow the science but we do anything but. Hence our CDC director today saying she fears impending doom for our country over COVID. That's not scientific in any way. We need look no further than what public health experts have suggested throughout this pandemic and realize that all these lockdowns and mandates and insanity have done very little to stop the spread of the virus. All we have done is spread more misery and heartache and destruction in other areas.. Favoring the politics of fear and control over balanced policy has not worked out.
 
Over the weekend Dr. Birx who starred in some of the ex-president's reality shows about the pandemic said the ex-president is to blame for the majority of deaths from Covid after the first 100,000. She said he refused to follow medical and scientific advice and as a result we now have 550,000 deaths, The former president recently stated that he often did the opposite of what Dr. Fauci recommended. What an incompetent clown.

Woody....come on man...you know better than this. I bet your momma taught you better than this.

 
Woody....come on man...you know better than this. I bet your momma taught you better than this.


Trump is a joke. He will be a footnote as the worst president in our history. The sooner you accept this the happier you will be. Oh, and **** your feelings.
 
MARCH 29, 2021
PALM BEACH, FL

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America.

Based on their interviews, I felt it was time to speak up about Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, two self-promoters trying to reinvent history to cover for their bad instincts and faulty recommendations, which I fortunately almost always overturned. They had bad policy decisions that would have left our country open to China and others, closed to reopening our economy, and years away from an approved vaccine—putting millions of lives at risk.

We developed American vaccines by an American President in record time, nine months, which is saving the entire world. We bought billions of dollars of these vaccines on a calculated bet that they would work, perhaps the most important bet in the history of the world. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx moved far too slowly, and if it were up to them we'd currently be locked in our basements as our country suffered through a financial depression. Families, and children in particular, would be suffering the mental strains of this disaster like never before.

In a fake interview last night on CNN, Dr. Fauci, who said he was an athlete in college but couldn't throw a baseball even close to home plate, it was a "roller," tried to take credit for the vaccine, when in fact he said it would take three to five years, and probably longer, to have it approved. Dr. Fauci was incapable of pressing the FDA to move it through faster. I was the one to get it done, and even the fake news media knows and reports this.

Dr. Fauci is also the king of "flip-flops" and moving the goalposts to make himself look as good as possible. He fought me so hard because he wanted to keep our country open to countries like China. I closed it against his strong recommendation, which saved many lives. Dr. Fauci also said we didn't need to wear masks, then a few months later he said we needed to wear masks, and now, two or three of them. Fauci spent U.S. money on the Wuhan lab in China—and we now know how that worked out.

Dr. Birx is a proven liar with very little credibility left. Many of her recommendations were viewed as "pseudo-science," and Dr. Fauci would always talk negatively about her and, in fact, would ask not to be in the same room with her. The States who followed her lead, like California, had worse outcomes on Covid, and ruined the lives of countless children because they couldn't go to school, ruined many businesses, and an untold number of Americans who were killed by the lockdowns themselves. Dr. Birx was a terrible medical advisor, which is why I seldom followed her advice. Her motto should be "Do as I say, not as I do." Who can forget when Dr. Birx gave a huge mandate to the people of our Nation to not travel, and then traveled a great distance to see her family for Thanksgiving—only to have them call the police and turn her in? She then, embarrassingly for her, resigned.

Finally, Dr. Birx says she can't hear very well, but I can. There was no "very difficult" phone call, other than Dr. Birx's policies that would have led us directly into a COVID caused depression. She was a very negative voice who didn't have the right answers. Time has proven me correct. I only kept Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx on because they worked for the U.S. government for so long—they are like a bad habit!

###
 
  • Like
Reactions: TigerGrowls
MARCH 29, 2021
PALM BEACH, FL

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America.

Based on their interviews, I felt it was time to speak up about Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, two self-promoters trying to reinvent history to cover for their bad instincts and faulty recommendations, which I fortunately almost always overturned. They had bad policy decisions that would have left our country open to China and others, closed to reopening our economy, and years away from an approved vaccine—putting millions of lives at risk.

We developed American vaccines by an American President in record time, nine months, which is saving the entire world. We bought billions of dollars of these vaccines on a calculated bet that they would work, perhaps the most important bet in the history of the world. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx moved far too slowly, and if it were up to them we'd currently be locked in our basements as our country suffered through a financial depression. Families, and children in particular, would be suffering the mental strains of this disaster like never before.

In a fake interview last night on CNN, Dr. Fauci, who said he was an athlete in college but couldn't throw a baseball even close to home plate, it was a "roller," tried to take credit for the vaccine, when in fact he said it would take three to five years, and probably longer, to have it approved. Dr. Fauci was incapable of pressing the FDA to move it through faster. I was the one to get it done, and even the fake news media knows and reports this.

Dr. Fauci is also the king of "flip-flops" and moving the goalposts to make himself look as good as possible. He fought me so hard because he wanted to keep our country open to countries like China. I closed it against his strong recommendation, which saved many lives. Dr. Fauci also said we didn't need to wear masks, then a few months later he said we needed to wear masks, and now, two or three of them. Fauci spent U.S. money on the Wuhan lab in China—and we now know how that worked out.

Dr. Birx is a proven liar with very little credibility left. Many of her recommendations were viewed as "pseudo-science," and Dr. Fauci would always talk negatively about her and, in fact, would ask not to be in the same room with her. The States who followed her lead, like California, had worse outcomes on Covid, and ruined the lives of countless children because they couldn't go to school, ruined many businesses, and an untold number of Americans who were killed by the lockdowns themselves. Dr. Birx was a terrible medical advisor, which is why I seldom followed her advice. Her motto should be "Do as I say, not as I do." Who can forget when Dr. Birx gave a huge mandate to the people of our Nation to not travel, and then traveled a great distance to see her family for Thanksgiving—only to have them call the police and turn her in? She then, embarrassingly for her, resigned.

Finally, Dr. Birx says she can't hear very well, but I can. There was no "very difficult" phone call, other than Dr. Birx's policies that would have led us directly into a COVID caused depression. She was a very negative voice who didn't have the right answers. Time has proven me correct. I only kept Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx on because they worked for the U.S. government for so long—they are like a bad habit!

###

This source is less credible than gateway pundit.
 
It is all Trump's fault. Pretty rich coming from one of his enablers, but she's not wrong.

She has enabled many presidents while lining her pockets, her and Fraudci both.

They are both a joke, even her own family turned her in for flying during Thanksgiving, bwahahaha
 
  • Like
Reactions: TigerGrowls
Well, you are missing out on one important fact, the foremost expert on infectious disease in the world is Donald Trump. He is the smartest person in the room no matter the subject. So he really doesn't need or want their advice.
To be fair, Trump did some good things up front once he realized that the virus WAS NOT a Democratic Hoax. He shut down travel to China (sort of) and Europe. He got the production of ventilators rolling early and our medical system never got blown away (although it was damn close in spots). NY City would have been totally screwed w/o federal help. He got the vaccine efforts rolling early and convinced the drug companies to take the short cuts needed. As Birx said in the interview, there simply wasn't a lot to be done initially. We were going to take it on the chin no matter who was in the WH.

Once the country got shut down, we HAD it whipped. You can see the numbers in late April and May start to drop. We simply opened up too early and that was on Trump. We needed another couple of weeks and then a limited reopening. He made the decision that the economy reopening ASAP was more important and that the summer months would slow the virus (which to be fair it did). But his failure to push mask use and mandate it when and where he could was a disaster. It gave his supporters the impression that we were open and the virus was beaten. That obviously didn't happen and numbers started to climb even in the summer months. Once the fall arrived, things went downhill fast.

I've said it several times on here that Trump's decision making cost him the election. Prioritizing the economy over the health folk's advice and publicly disagreeing with them was a terrible mistake. He made the pandemic political and didn't need to. Hell, I hate Trump and even I don't blame him for the economic troubles. All Trump had to do was listen to his health folks, make sympathetic noises, and look presidential. He'd have won in a landslide.

BUT Trump's got that mouth on him and he's got to run it... even when he has no idea what he's talking about. His rambling at the new conferences let everyone know that he had little knowledge of health policies and human biology in general (and to be fair, he's a business man, so why would he?) . But Trump could never admit THAT. A smart operator here shuts his mouth and follows the guidance of experts that know what he doesn't. That cost him the election.

I basically hate Trump, but his decision to reopen was the correct one. The tanking economy was going to affect way more people than COVID. The cure can’t be worse than the disease.
 
  • Like
Reactions: yoshi121374
I basically hate Trump, but his decision to reopen was the correct one. The tanking economy was going to affect way more people than COVID. The cure can’t be worse than the disease.

No. I was OK with reopening once we'd gotten past the point where medical facilities wouldn't be snowed under. But opening up completely like he said and proposed was STUPID. More American died on his watch in a year than died in any war except the Civil War. It was NOT the right decision.
 
I basically hate Trump, but his decision to reopen was the correct one. The tanking economy was going to affect way more people than COVID. The cure can’t be worse than the disease.

Trump is correct the vast majority of the time!! Oh yes its true!!
 
No. I was OK with reopening once we'd gotten past the point where medical facilities wouldn't be snowed under. But opening up completely like he said and proposed was STUPID. More American died on his watch in a year than died in any war except the Civil War. It was NOT the right decision.

+/- a few thousand and maybe some more accurate death rates, other than that a virus could care less who is president. Per capita, Florida and Texas did much better than NY, Cali (the worst), Michigan or New Jersey. They also kept much more people employed.

I am pretty sure Einstein would have had a difficult time managing this pandemic.

Not to mention, Trumps decision was to allow states make their own decisions. Some governors were great others sucked. That is how it should be in a country governed by states. Trump went balls deep on the vaccine, and though I will not take it many of you are lining up for it. So at least he saved you from certain demise.

Again, I personally don’t like the guy, but he was only guilty of running his mouth and letting Fraudci be mouthpiece. 2 bonehead moves that likely cost him the election on face value, besides the cheating 🤣🤣🤣, sorry can’t resist.

There has not been 1 world leader praised for their handling of the virus, they were all destined to be f’d politically.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TigerGrowls
+/- a few thousand and maybe some more accurate death rates, other than that a virus could care less who is president. Per capita, Florida and Texas did much better than NY, Cali (the worst), Michigan or New Jersey. They also kept much more people employed.

I am pretty sure Einstein would have had a difficult time managing this pandemic.

Not to mention, Trumps decision was to allow states make their own decisions. Some governors were great others sucked. That is how it should be in a country governed by states. Trump went balls deep on the vaccine, and though I will not take it many of you are lining up for it. So at least he saved you from certain demise.

Again, I personally don’t like the guy, but he was only guilty of running his mouth and letting Fraudci be mouthpiece. 2 bonehead moves that likely cost him the election on face value, besides the cheating 🤣🤣🤣, sorry can’t resist.

There has not been 1 world leader praised for their handling of the virus, they were all destined to be f’d politically.


I would argue that Trump's biggest issue was that he didn't let Fauci be the mouthpiece. Trump could not allow someone else to get any attention so he insisted on speaking at those press conferences. Trump created most of his issues by his complete inability to keep his mouth shut and not act like a moron. His worst gaffes were during those press conferences.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dpic73
I would argue that Trump's biggest issue was that he didn't let Fauci be the mouthpiece. Trump could not allow someone else to get any attention so he insisted on speaking at those press conferences. Trump created most of his issues by his complete inability to keep his mouth shut and not act like a moron. His worst gaffes were during those press conferences.

Not to mention that it was glaringly obvious to anyone with a scintilla of brain matter that he saw the virus as a distraction to his re-election bid and that informed all his actions/words regarding the pandemic. He cared about himself more than the virus he saw as a nuisance.
 
  • Like
Reactions: yoshi121374
I would argue that Trump's biggest issue was that he didn't let Fauci be the mouthpiece. Trump could not allow someone else to get any attention so he insisted on speaking at those press conferences. Trump created most of his issues by his complete inability to keep his mouth shut and not act like a moron. His worst gaffes were during those press conferences.

Agree 90%, the press also used small excerpts from his pressers and took a lot out of context. He should have still made Fraudci look like the moron, instead he took the beating
 
Agree 90%, the press also used small excerpts from his pressers and took a lot out of context. He should have still made Fraudci look like the moron, instead he took the beating


I know Trump supporters love to blame the press, but watching that guy speak at a press conference was painful. He said or tweeted enough dumb shit that it really wasn't hard to make him look bad. He was just so obviously unprepared for those press conferences.

I have said many times,but he reminded me of a kid doing a book report on a book he hadn't read.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT