Inflation started the second he initiated trade tariff. The yo-yo non policy used initially for COVID response exacerbated it. Its only been made worse by the present office holder continuing the same failed and stupid policies.
Extremely OT.....
- Thread starter tigerGUY
- Start date
Inflation started the second he initiated trade tariff. The yo-yo non policy used initially for COVID response exacerbated it. Its only been made worse by the present office holder continuing the same failed and stupid policies.
Ha, sure have. It was more a play on responding to the Winn Dixie comment.
If anyone thinks white supremacy and global warming is ruining the world… LOL
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
Wake up to real life
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
Wake up to real life
Trump spoke directly with the press and had more interviews than any potus in history and there is no close second. If he runs he will win short of another steal. The country would not be in this huge quagmire if Trump was still running the show. Anyone that cannot see this fact is dumb and unwilling to see reality.
No they wouldn’t….not at all.
The Biden administration is the saddest joke this country has ever seen & we’re only a year in…I shudder to think where this country will be in three more years…
These facts are available with research. I will admit that I spoke before I looked. Trump had many more press sessions than Obama or Biden (per month). He did not have as many as either Bush or Clinton. I should try to see the facts and not be dumb.
Nothing personal but how do you feel about the current president, the Speaker, Schumer, the squad and the direction of the country?
Ok, so what parts of that would be different if Trump was still President? That’s the point I‘m making. I’m not saying everything’s great and there’s no problems, but to pretend that the great bulk of the challenges we’re facing in the country would just be no problem at all had the 2020 election played out differently is flat out intellectually dishonest.
If you really believe that there was no election fraud then you either have your head in the sand or you just can’t be helped. Answer one question. If there were no problems with the election then why would the libs be fighting so hard to prevent thorough and open investigations into every suspect count? There would be no better way to restore the integrity of the process than this!
- Price of gas would be lower.
- Lower inflation.
- Afghanistan fiasco would not have occurred.
- No covid mandates from potus.
- Southern border would have still been secure related to number of illegal crossings and the wall would have been still in the building phase instead of being torn down.
This is just a few that I thought of quickly that would have benefitted the nation greatly. By the way TRUMP WON. Lets go Brandon!!
Tiger Guy, i agree with everything you said, but old joe moronic move on gas and oil has made a lot of drivers park their rigs. my nephew has his own rig, but the money he makes doesn't pay for the fuel and up keep on his truck.
you are a complete dumbass, your president is not the one making any of the stupid ass decisions, odumber and soros are calling all the shots. yon need to wake up. LET'S GO BRANDON.
Started to like this post and then I saw your last line. Why shouldn't we be able to sue schools that propagate racism and hatred and pedal other socially and morally bankrupt propaganda? Why shouldn't I get my tax dollars back from the public rot that exists in public schools so that I could use those funds to offset the costs to send my children to a private school that doesn't push propaganda that I find so morally repugnant?
Last edited:
My remark about dumb was a general reference about how some do not see the degradation in the nation that has occurred quickly due directly to actions from potus and his handlers.
First of all why is this thread not in the round table? There are minor details that separate the two political parties and one major one. Only one party believes in democracy and it's not the Republican Party. If you don't believe that look at the emails from various republican office holders to Mark Meadows, look at the 38 page power point presentation that Meadows shared with the congressional committee investigating Jan. 6. All basically argue to just throw out the votes and have new electors chosen who will vote for Trump.
Again, some of you are beyond help! If you don’t see the mass efforts to cover voter fraud then you don’t want the truth. Again, why not open a full investigation into the claims? Only one reason… to cover the dirty!
you can always tell a Trumper because they start calling people names. I’ve never known one who was able to argue a point in a calm, respectful manner.
It’s been a 30 year ride to the bottom and no President has changed the downward direction one bit. Every one is worse than his predecessor- no exceptions.
The only fools in this entire fiasco are the partisan folks who fall for blaming the other side while their party further degrades America. This trend will not be corrected until we chuck the current two parties. They own the government by splitting the people.
Last edited:
OK, here you are:
“The Afghanistan exit plan was put in place by President Trump.”
This is not true. There was an exit plan with pre-conditions to ensure an orderly withdrawal. That’s not the plan that Biden followed. Not to mention, Biden has gone back on myriad things that Trump put in place but on this one, he had to do what Trump said? I don’t think so. This is a well-documented misrepresentation.
“I’m not sure where your covid stats are coming from, Florida is 10th in death rate Per 100,000 per the CDC - higher than MIchigan. The top 10 are Mississippi, Alabama, New Jersey, Louisiana, Arizona, Oklahoma, New York, Arkansas, Georgia, and Florida. I don’t like getting into the red vs blue thing when it comes to people dying, but clearly the bulk of those states are under Republican control.”
Florida has about 4.2 million people over the age of 65. Michigan has about 1.6 million people over 65. In the South there is a much higher black population than in many other states. It’s a demonstrable fact that blacks are more hesitant about the shot than the rest of the population. Additionally, people in rural communities are hesitant about the shot as well. (Note: It’s a shot, not a vaccine) The point of all this is there are varying factors with respect to analyzing how things have progressed.
Also, it’s a virus and it’s going to do what viruses do. It doesn’t care what color someone is or what their political leaning may be. The best possible analysis is how things were handled with respect to vulnerable population. On that count, few states have handled things more effectively than Florida. Michigan has been an utter disaster. Why? Because we don’t just look at how many people have died. There are other factors in living aside from death. The unemployment rate in Michigan is 5.9%. The unemployment rate in Florida is 4.5%. That’s an enormous difference. All the worst unemployment states are controlled by Democrats. Every one of them.
Kids in Florida have been in school without masks while kids in Michigan have had heavy interruptions and tons of mandates. This could apply to other states like New York, California, New Jersey, etc. Part of this is that as of today, the leading cause of death among people 16-45 now is drug overdose. The statistics are staggering and we’ve seen a 30% increase in deaths from overdose in the past 20 months or so. The mental health statistics of our young people are disastrous. All these non-scientific, scare-based policies have come home to roost.
“Michigan is higher than Florida when looking at stats for the last 7 days, is that what you’re looking at? Again, regardless of the numbers, how would they be different now with a different President? Maybe more of his supporters would be taking the vaccine? I don’t know, even Trump was booed by his own fan base when he recommended getting vaccinated. Its crazy, the vaccine is easily, easily the top accomplishment of the Trump administration and his supporters refuse to take it in droves.”
Here we conveniently leave out the part where Democratic leaders were saying repeatedly they wouldn’t take a vaccine/shot developed under Trump’s leadership. This after saying he’s a horrendous racist for 4 years. Maybe that’s part of why so many black people haven’t taken the shot and have suffered disproportionately bad outcomes which Democrats then blamed on racist inequities. Let's not even get into who ran a campaign saying he was going to shut down the virus not the country.
“The murder rate across the country is growing, but at a slower pace than it grew in 2019 and 2020. So again, not sure how that would be different under a different administration.”
This may be the worst one of all. The murder rate went up massively from 19 to 20. Yes, the pace of increase has slowed but 2020 was a record breaking year in many places. That we’ve continued to increase from that but at a slower rate is not a win. That’s a disaster. That’s leading to statements like this from the mayor of San Francisco who was a leading defund the police person at one time. In short, Democratic policies have been DISASTROUS for our cities. Winning would be murder rates and property crimes dropping by 50%. We see just the opposite now.
UPDATE: SF Mayor London Breed Announces Crime Crackdown; 'Less Tolerant Of All The Bulls--t That Has Destroyed Our City'
Mayor London Breed launched an emergency police intervention in San Francisco's crime-ridden Tenderloin neighborhood Tuesday, targeting a pipeline of illegal drugs that has been fueling a surge in gun violence and deadly fentanyl overdoses.
sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com
Consider there have been more murders in the city limits of Philadelphia (pop about 2m) than in New York City or Los Angeles which are exponentially larger cities. The murder rate in Chicago is just awful. Here in Atlanta, crime is rampant.
When we had the riots of 2020 all Summer, we did massive harm to the fabric of our society. Combined with the isolation from Covid and we’ve created a storm that is not going to easily wane. This has been exacerbated significantly by the Biden administration.
“President Trump loudly supported most of the spending around covid that the Biden administration has pushed through, most notably additional stimulus.”
The initial stimulus, yes; but not on the same level. Trump was a big spender. He was a reckless spender in my opinion. Did you know that as of now because of Biden Admin policies, if you furloughed a worker from your business and are now able to call them back to work they can refuse and still get unemployment as though they lost a job? That is freaking insane. We still aren’t paying student loans yet but that is finally about to end. It should have ended 5 months ago at least. We are paying a terrible price for not turning off the government spigot. Which party prefers people addicted to the government dole? That's an easy one.
“The President has zero control over private businesses who choose to enforce vaccine mandates on their customers, nor does the President control state and local ordinances around covid. Do you really think that a President Trump would have been able to stop New York City from requiring vaccinations for indoor dining?”
Here’s another whopper. We know that the President has abused his power multiple times. He said he couldn’t stop rent freezes but then put a policy through the CDC to do just that knowing it was unconstitutional and had been ruled on in court. He did it to just delay things. So essentially, he knowingly broke the law to try and force something through. That’s way out of bounds of his oath of office. He did the same thing with this OSHA mandate. He knew it was unconstitutional but he announced it as an emergency measure, waited 6 weeks or so and then wrote the text. He was trying to force businesses to get ready for this by making their employees get the shot. This is another overt abuse of power. He’s done this with so many thing and he just lies over and over again to try and push forward his agenda. Trump lied every day and he lied repeatedly about himself. Most dishonest president I have seen though very closely followed by Obama. Biden lies even more! That’s a pretty stunning accomplishment to out-lie Trump.
“In terms of answering questions, I don’t know. I’d prefer that to a President that openly spreads false information about election results and undermines our democracy to the point that there’s an attempted coup on the capital building. That’s just me personally.”
What happened on 1/6 wasn’t an attempted coup. It was a riot. Trump is not responsible for what happened, but I must say that his actions after the election and all the way up until now have been very damaging. They have hurt my state of Georgia. His insanely dishonest and vindictive treatment of our governor, Brian Kemp, has been outrageous. Trump lost the election. He lost because he ran a horrible campaign. I will do anything and everything in my power to stop him if he runs again in 2024. The way the 2020 election was conducted was a farce. There were so many violations in areas controlled by Dem officials it is hard to know where to begin. I don’t believe any of them tilted the outcome of the election but we still need to put a stop to it. They did a great deal to undermine our electoral process. Just as Trump did with his idiotic rhetoric.
Last edited:
A lot of this is because without understanding it, both parties, Republicans to some degree and Democrats in totality have been relentless in their pursuit of keynesian economics. That line of thinking just doesn't work. It's taught everywhere now and perceived as having some evident benefits but it doesn't. It's only failed everywhere and succeeded no where. We're going to have to turn away from this line of thinking to get out nation back on the right track.
As was famously said by Benjamin Franklin, “When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”
Three more nuggets from Franklin we have completely ignored:
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
“The Constitution only guarantees the American people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.”
Consider for a moment how we've totally warped the valuable guardrails we were provided by our founders. No, they weren't perfect and they readily admitted as much. They left us a working structure to provide for the freedom of all Americans. What we've done by enslaving people to that government is an abomination of the highest order. Until that stops, we'll never know peace.
@TigerGrowls does all the time from what I've seen. I don't agree with a lot of stuff he puts up but he has always been considerate. Even when I've not been as much so. (which I regret)
Well @TigerGrowls just liked a post where the Trumper was calling someone a dumbass so…
If you challenge him, he doesn't get nasty that I have seen. I don't read a lot of the stuff he puts up so I admit I could be wrong.
Meh, that goes for both sides which are just two sides of the same coin.
Trump is a liar and a bully. I have no problem with most of his policies, but would not trust him with the keys to the White House ever again.
CRT is to a large degree "a joke"....but it's on all of us. Sue their butts off....they won't be indoctrinating my kids or grandkids.
I kind of can’t believe that Republicans are in favor of creating more frivolous law suits but whatever.
I’m not really going to debate the merits of critical race theory, though I find that it’s often misrepresented. My main problem is that it’s not actually being taught. Even DeSantis couldn’t come up with a single example of it being taught in a Florida public school. This is just another made up issue for conservatives to rail against. It’s the transgender bathroom issue in different clothing.
FWIW I don’t really think critical race theory is appropriate for grade school either, except for maybe AP courses. CRT should be reserved for college courses, grade school should be factual history. Though it seems that more and more people are trying to remove the factual history of segregation from curriculums.
I’ll only speak to the Afghanistan portion, given my background. You may be correct that Trump made a deal to exit, but the worst thing you could do is publicly announce a hard exit date.
Why go public? recognition. But the min it went south, ‘Trump made the deal’ was the repeated excuse.
He royally f’d up, gave the enemy all the ammo to create chaos during our mass exodus and ultimately responsible for 11 Marines under his watch and leadership.
Keep your mouth shut, move folks out of the country, then announce we are leaving.
Incompetent.
You liberal are retarted!OK, here you are:
“The Afghanistan exit plan was put in place by President Trump.”
This is not true. There was an exit plan with pre-conditions to ensure an orderly withdrawal. That’s not the plan that Biden followed. Not to mention, Biden has gone back on myriad things that Trump put in place but on this one, he had to do what Trump said? I don’t think so. This is a well-documented misrepresentation.
“I’m not sure where your covid stats are coming from, Florida is 10th in death rate Per 100,000 per the CDC - higher than MIchigan. The top 10 are Mississippi, Alabama, New Jersey, Louisiana, Arizona, Oklahoma, New York, Arkansas, Georgia, and Florida. I don’t like getting into the red vs blue thing when it comes to people dying, but clearly the bulk of those states are under Republican control.”
Florida has about 4.2 million people over the age of 65. Michigan has about 1.6 million people over 65. In the South there is a much higher black population than in many other states. It’s a demonstrable fact that blacks are more hesitant about the shot than the rest of the population. Additionally, people in rural communities are hesitant about the shot as well. (Note: It’s a shot, not a vaccine) The point of all this is there are varying factors with respect to analyzing how things have progressed.
Also, it’s a virus and it’s going to do what viruses do. It doesn’t care what color someone is or what their political leaning may be. The best possible analysis is how things were handled with respect to vulnerable population. On that count, few states have handled things more effectively than Florida. Michigan has been an utter disaster. Why? Because we don’t just look at how many people have died. There are other factors in living aside from death. The unemployment rate in Michigan is 5.9%. The unemployment rate in Florida is 4.5%. That’s an enormous difference. All the worst unemployment states are controlled by Democrats. Every one of them.
Kids in Florida have been in school without masks while kids in Michigan have had heavy interruptions and tons of mandates. This could apply to other states like New York, California, New Jersey, etc. Part of this is that as of today, the leading cause of death among people 16-45 now is drug overdose. The statistics are staggering and we’ve seen a 30% increase in deaths from overdose in the past 20 months or so. The mental health statistics of our young people are disastrous. All these non-scientific, scare-based policies have come home to roost.
“Michigan is higher than Florida when looking at stats for the last 7 days, is that what you’re looking at? Again, regardless of the numbers, how would they be different now with a different President? Maybe more of his supporters would be taking the vaccine? I don’t know, even Trump was booed by his own fan base when he recommended getting vaccinated. Its crazy, the vaccine is easily, easily the top accomplishment of the Trump administration and his supporters refuse to take it in droves.”
Here we conveniently leave out the part where Democratic leaders were saying repeatedly they wouldn’t take a vaccine/shot developed under Trump’s leadership. This after saying he’s a horrendous racist for 4 years. Maybe that’s part of why so many black people haven’t taken the shot and have suffered disproportionately bad outcomes which Democrats then blamed on racist inequities. Let's not even get into who ran a campaign saying he was going to shut down the virus not the country.
“The murder rate across the country is growing, but at a slower pace than it grew in 2019 and 2020. So again, not sure how that would be different under a different administration.”
This may be the worst one of all. The murder rate went up massively from 19 to 20. Yes, the pace of increase has slowed but 2020 was a record breaking year in many places. That we’ve continued to increase from that but at a slower rate is not a win. That’s a disaster. That’s leading to statements like this from the mayor of San Francisco who was a leading defund the police person at one time. In short, Democratic policies have been DISASTROUS for our cities. Winning would be murder rates and property crimes dropping by 50%. We see just the opposite now.
UPDATE: SF Mayor London Breed Announces Crime Crackdown; 'Less Tolerant Of All The Bulls--t That Has Destroyed Our City'
Mayor London Breed launched an emergency police intervention in San Francisco's crime-ridden Tenderloin neighborhood Tuesday, targeting a pipeline of illegal drugs that has been fueling a surge in gun violence and deadly fentanyl overdoses.
Consider there have been more murders in the city limits of Philadelphia (pop about 2m) than in New York City or Los Angeles which are exponentially larger cities. The murder rate in Chicago is just awful. Here in Atlanta, crime is rampant.
When we had the riots of 2020 all Summer, we did massive harm to the fabric of our society. Combined with the isolation from Covid and we’ve created a storm that is not going to easily wane. This has been exacerbated significantly by the Biden administration.
“President Trump loudly supported most of the spending around covid that the Biden administration has pushed through, most notably additional stimulus.”
The initial stimulus, yes; but not on the same level. Trump was a big spender. He was a reckless spender in my opinion. Did you know that as of now because of Biden Admin policies, if you furloughed a worker from your business and are now able to call them back to work they can refuse and still get unemployment as though they lost a job? That is freaking insane. We still aren’t paying student loans yet but that is finally about to end. It should have ended 5 months ago at least. We are paying a terrible price for not turning off the government spigot. Which party prefers people addicted to the government dole? That's an easy one.
“The President has zero control over private businesses who choose to enforce vaccine mandates on their customers, nor does the President control state and local ordinances around covid. Do you really think that a President Trump would have been able to stop New York City from requiring vaccinations for indoor dining?”
Here’s another whopper. We know that the President has abused his power multiple times. He said he couldn’t stop rent freezes but then put a policy through the CDC to do just that knowing it was unconstitutional and had been ruled on in court. He did it to just delay things. So essentially, he knowingly broke the law to try and force something through. That’s way out of bounds of his oath of office. He did the same thing with this OSHA mandate. He knew it was unconstitutional but he announced it as an emergency measure, waited 6 weeks or so and then wrote the text. He was trying to force businesses to get ready for this by making their employees get the shot. This is another overt abuse of power. He’s done this with so many thing and he just lies over and over again to try and push forward his agenda. Trump lied every day and he lied repeatedly about himself. Most dishonest president I have seen though very closely followed by Obama. Biden lies even more! That’s a pretty stunning accomplishment to out-lie Trump.
“In terms of answering questions, I don’t know. I’d prefer that to a President that openly spreads false information about election results and undermines our democracy to the point that there’s an attempted coup on the capital building. That’s just me personally.”
What happened on 1/6 wasn’t an attempted coup. It was a riot. Trump is not responsible for what happened, but I must say that his actions after the election and all the way up until now have been very damaging. They have hurt my state of Georgia. His insanely dishonest and vindictive treatment of our governor, Brian Kemp, has been outrageous. Trump lost the election. He lost because he ran a horrible campaign. I will do anything and everything in my power to stop him if he runs again in 2024. The way the 2020 election was conducted was a farce. There were so many violations in areas controlled by Dem officials it is hard to know where to begin. I don’t believe any of them tilted the outcome of the election but we still need to put a stop to it. They did a great deal to undermine our electoral process. Just as Trump did with his idiotic rhetoric.
The plan Biden followed was Exactly the plan that trump negotiated with the taliban (without any input from the Afgan government.
Their have been tons of investigations and hand recounts and all have confirmed that this past election was the most accurate in history. Current Republicans (meaning that they all have their heads up trumps ass) just can't fathom their God being a loser.
Ok, so you're a member of the trump cult. You can't accept the truth and it's always somebody else's problem. I wish the 40 percent of this country that doesn't want to live in a democracy would just leave with trump and go to North Korea or Russia, the only 2 countries that would accept that insurrectionist.
Most economists are predicting that the economy will come roaring back in 2022. Lowest unemployment ever, inflation will drop significantly.
So if Biden's policies are to blame for everything bad thats happening, will his policies get credit for all the good next year? I am sure the Trumpers will somehow find a way to credit Trump somehow.
Dude, this has been the most investigated election in history, with some states doing three recounts and others using Incompetent Trump supporters to do a six month investigation that ended with Biden receiving more votes! Just because the investigations don't prove the fake theories you support doesn't mean they haven't been investigated. Just be honest, you don't care how thoroughly they're investigated, you won't be satisfied unless they show Trump won. But he didn't.
Desantis is too Trumpy, spends all his waking hours sucking on trump's nuggets. Plus, as others have noted most of what he does is a dog and pony show to curry favor with the trump crowd. If he is your guy, it will truly be the Trumpublican party going forward.
I can't understand why you guys are not pushing for Kasich. I would seriously consider voting for him. Would be a great president. Of course, he has criticized your king, so unlikely he would be allowed to run.
Can you please provide me with the date and time we went from a Constitutional Republic to a Democracy? I just want to be sure to recognize it when we go back to a Democracy since we’ve never been one since I’ve been alive.
Once citizens of the US start to realize that the asshats elected to Congress, etc don’t have their best interest in mind EVER then maybe we wouldn’t have these PUBLIC SERVANTS retiring as multi-millionaires after serving 30 or more years without ever accomplishing anything they promised to their constituents.
This applies to both sides of the aisle by the way.
Are you really that dense? How many plans that are made that far ahead of time are executed EXACTLY in their original form? Almost none. It is highly likely the plan would have been altered to some degree based on changes in the region as time for implementation drew closer even if Trump were still in office. Multiple members of Biden's own staff suggested this very thing be done as the time for withdrawal approached due to changes in the region. In large part it was the timing, not only of the plan, but of the announcement of the plan. Just weeks earlier, Biden had stated Sept 11th was the deadline. His decision to unexpectedly move the time frame up almost 6 weeks caused chaos and a rush for those wanting to exit the country. Largely, it was the failure of the administration to process request for extraction for those who wanted to leave before the withdrawal.
I know you want to blame everything that goes wrong on Trump even though he is no longer in office, but this was 100% on Biden. Biden was the one that gave Sept 11th as HIS deadline. Biden was the one who then changed HIS stated timeline and left thousands of citizens and allies trapped in a country with Muslim terrorists.
Similar threads
