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Get Your Vax Card Ready or Your Negative Test

Wouldn't it be easier to just enforce social distancing? Looks like you can get an easy 12 feet between every person.
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If vaccinated people can still get and spread the virus shouldn’t they have a negative test also? This is the part I don’t understand. Why do vaccinated people get special privileges. The world doesn’t care if your homeless , hungry , or have cancer but the world just can’t fathom me catching a cold? I was positive for covid-19 last December and that’s all it was for me. Not downplaying other people who struggled or died with it but I didn’t so if I’m not worried about me neither should anybody else. Tell me what I’m missing here folks!
 
If vaccinated people can still get and spread the virus shouldn’t they have a negative test also? This is the part I don’t understand. Why do vaccinated people get special privileges. The world doesn’t care if your homeless , hungry , or have cancer but the world just can’t fathom me catching a cold? I was positive for covid-19 last December and that’s all it was for me. Not downplaying other people who struggled or died with it but I didn’t so if I’m not worried about me neither should anybody else. Tell me what I’m missing here folks!
You missed the, "Shut up and obey" part.
 
Seriously, my vax card only has a name and vax dates on it. How will they know who’s vax card is legit? Certainly they won’t require id’s, as delta, mlb, and Coke have said that was Jim crowe II
Rather commit a crime* than get a free FDA APPROVED vaccine? Seems like the cost benefit is off on that one
 
I actually think BC may have a good season all jokes aside.

They will give us a fit.... for a quarter.

The question is, will unvaccinated players (which is probably not many) be able to travel with the team?
Regardless of how anybody views vax or anti-vax, covid and its variants are a real pain in the rear threat to CLEMSON having the sort of special season we all pretty much agree is right in front of the team's face right now.

All it took was someone farting or sneezing 3 days earlier (or whatever) last season for fsu to cowardly fabricate reasons to not even PLAY THE GAME barely a couple hours before kickoff. There's plenty of teams who may not field a team week to week (cancel games, opt out, etc) for whatever reason if this covid deal takes on another life of its own into this season.

Nobody wants to see 2020 again. Just want to see the team, opponents, and fans work together to have as safe and normal of a season as possible. Everyone is going to have to accept there will be requests made for that. I'm just not a fan of these 6 game manipulated B1G not-to-be-revisited-but-revisited dog and pony show embarrassments or watching players miss games due to protocols and such.

I'm selfish in this respect, yes. I enjoy college football. I enjoy seeing folks stay safe. I'm not going to critique BC if that is how they feel having a season or home games is necessary this year. It's not for everyone, but the sooner folks can make a choice to attend or not knowing the standard operating procedure at places....all the better.
 
If vaccinated people can still get and spread the virus shouldn’t they have a negative test also? This is the part I don’t understand. Why do vaccinated people get special privileges. The world doesn’t care if your homeless , hungry , or have cancer but the world just can’t fathom me catching a cold? I was positive for covid-19 last December and that’s all it was for me. Not downplaying other people who struggled or died with it but I didn’t so if I’m not worried about me neither should anybody else. Tell me what I’m missing here folks!
You’re definitely downplaying people who have struggled and died, which includes well over half of a million Americans.

Although you probably don’t want an actual answer, the reason is that vaccinated persons are significantly less likely to become hospitalized, intubated, or die.
 
If the clinical trials for the vaccine took place and were designed to fight the original virus, how is vaccine effective? The original virus is gone and no vaccines were studied against a variant that didn’t exist during the trials.

Maybe thats why its not going away and vaxxed are spreading it as readily as non-vaxxed and why “boosters” are needed. Boosters is just a lie to bring some sort of comfort.
 
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real science and actual data being reported. see 4toTampa preceding post.

“The good news is that the data clearly shows that receiving a full vaccination series significantly reduces the risk of severe disease and death. When called to do so, people should get vaccinated,” says Dr. Kluge.



Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Good looking out.
 
I wasnt debating less severe symptoms. I was answering vaxxed spreading it as readily as non-vaxxed.
 
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If vaccinated people can still get and spread the virus shouldn’t they have a negative test also? This is the part I don’t understand. Why do vaccinated people get special privileges. The world doesn’t care if your homeless , hungry , or have cancer but the world just can’t fathom me catching a cold? I was positive for covid-19 last December and that’s all it was for me. Not downplaying other people who struggled or died with it but I didn’t so if I’m not worried about me neither should anybody else. Tell me what I’m missing here folks!
Risk management is a practice rather than a choice between absolutes.

FYI, here is data from Anmed on Monday. The capacity of the hospital is 461 total beds, 325 adult in-patient beds, and 61 ICU beds:

84 total COVID patients in the hospital

78 (93%) Unvaccinated / Partially vaccinated
59 non-ICU
19 ICU

6 (7%) Fully Vaccinated
5 non-ICU
1 ICU
 
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“The good news is that the data clearly shows that receiving a full vaccination series significantly reduces the risk of severe disease and death. When called to do so, people should get vaccinated,” says Dr. Kluge.



Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Good looking out.
Did you read the thread?? He was referring to the ability to get and spread the virus....I think he understood the article perfectly fine...
 
If vaccinated people can still get and spread the virus shouldn’t they have a negative test also? This is the part I don’t understand. Why do vaccinated people get special privileges. The world doesn’t care if your homeless , hungry , or have cancer but the world just can’t fathom me catching a cold? I was positive for covid-19 last December and that’s all it was for me. Not downplaying other people who struggled or died with it but I didn’t so if I’m not worried about me neither should anybody else. Tell me what I’m missing here folks!


Spot on…why the hell can people who can still get and spread get a pass?

Also talked to a manufacturer rep that had Covid early on…she had aftermath symptoms so got vaccine as soon as it was available. She said her aftermath symptoms got much worse

She’s now in a study being conducted by Vanderbilt on the aftermaths of Covid. It will be interesting to see if anyone else has same experience

I know Justin Foster said it helped his aftermath issues.
 
I am curious how legitimate this site is. There's not a single doctor on their "leadership team".

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Risk management is a practice rather than a choice between absolutes.

FYI, here is data from Anmed on Monday. The capacity of the hospital is 325 total beds (61 ICU):

84 total COVID patients in the hospital

78 (93%) Unvaccinated / Partially vaccinated
59 non-ICU
19 ICU

6 (7%) Fully Vaccinated
5 non-ICU
1 ICU
Can you answer this (and I don't mean this as any argument, just curious)... of the unvaccinated in the hospital, how many are experiencing Covid for the first time versus how many have it for a second time?

I am just curious how many people are getting covid a second time and having major problems. Seems to be a stat most would want to know, but I haven't seen it posted that way anywhere.

I'm just curious if those who have had it once are in real danger of it coming back and being worse.

(Before I get attacked, I have had it AND am now fully vaccinated as well. I am just curious about the reporting. Also, both of my older kids had it when I did. I will feel much better about them at school if it were a very low % of reinfected hospitalizations.)
 
Spot on…why the hell can people who can still get and spread get a pass?

Also talked to a manufacturer rep that had Covid early on…she had aftermath symptoms so got vaccine as soon as it was available. She said her aftermath symptoms got much worse

She’s now in a study being conducted by Vanderbilt on the aftermaths of Covid. It will be interesting to see if anyone else has same experience

I know Justin Foster said it helped his aftermath issues.
Yes sir. A lot we don't know about it....Remember Fen-phen...Or VIOXX....Both went through the rigorous FDA approval..not fast tracked....
 
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