Great point...If you are worried about kids....look at the hospitalization and death rate for them....WOrry more about flu shot for them
Get Your Vax Card Ready or Your Negative Test
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In the article “ The researchers also found that while the vaccination offers significant protection against the Delta variant, the vaccines are less effective than against previous variants.”
In addition to this, there are studies that have confirmed much less viral shedding among the vaccinated as they are infected for much less of a time. Also, less sneezing, coughing, wheezing etc that sends it airborne. They also aren’t clogging up emergency rooms and hospitals for people with heart attacks, strokes, or other non COVID illnesses.
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I am curious how legitimate this site is. There's not a single doctor on their "leadership team".
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Hahahahahahahahahaha
Out at “Honor Whiteman”. What a name
Meh, wasn't my point. This variant is getting kids sicker. My kids' immune systems kicked the shit out if Covid1. They were basically asymptomatic. I want to know what the chances of it being different next time are. But moreso, for everybody.
I guess I'm saying... if the reinfected aren't going to the hospital, we just need everybody to get this thing once and get on with life. But I haven't seen many if any studies or numbers on that. It's always just vaccinated versus unvaccinated.
Doesnt it also weaken the symptoms? If so, isnt it safe to assume that vaxxed people are spreading the virus without knowing it?
1 In 3 Americans Had Covid By The End Of 2020, Models Estimate—That’s Four Times The Official Count
Researchers estimated more than 60% of people had been infected with the coronavirus by the end of 2020 in areas covering the Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Iowa and around half of people in cities like Chicago and New York would have in the same time frame.
www.forbes.com
Is vaccine working better than natural immunity? I would like to know how many currently/past hospitalized had Covid prior to being vaccinated. Interesting number to know. Maybe less sick because they already had it.
Previous COVID infection may offer better protection against Delta compared to Pfizer shot
The finding comes from a study comparing natural immunity to the vaccines.
Study: No previously infected Cleveland Clinic employees who remained unvaccinated were reinfected
A Cleveland Clinic study found that its caregivers who were previously infected with COVID-19 were unlikely to get infected again, even if they didn’t get vaccinated.
www.news5cleveland.com
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...
‘Bombshell’ study finds natural immunity superior to vaccination
A major study conducted by Israeli researchers into natural immunity has found that immunity acquired via infection from Covid-19 is superior to immunity from the Pfizer vaccine. Researchers at Maccabi Healthcare and Tel Aviv University compared the outcomes of over 76,000 Israelis in three...
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The medrxiv site just puts out non published non peer reviewed studies. If they're so good why wouldn't they have been peer reviewed and published? Please see how they describe themselves below. They bolded the comments I did not.Previous COVID infection may offer better protection against Delta compared to Pfizer shot
The finding comes from a study comparing natural immunity to the vaccines.fortune.com
Study: No previously infected Cleveland Clinic employees who remained unvaccinated were reinfected
A Cleveland Clinic study found that its caregivers who were previously infected with COVID-19 were unlikely to get infected again, even if they didn’t get vaccinated.
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...www.medrxiv.org
‘Bombshell’ study finds natural immunity superior to vaccination
A major study conducted by Israeli researchers into natural immunity has found that immunity acquired via infection from Covid-19 is superior to immunity from the Pfizer vaccine. Researchers at Maccabi Healthcare and Tel Aviv University compared the outcomes of over 76,000 Israelis in three...
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That report has to be from Europe or Israel. the lib-tard media in America would never admit the vaccine is not a miracle, wonder, lifesaving drug.
Delta: Virus levels as high in vaccinated as in unvaccinated adults
A study shows that people vaccinated against coronavirus with the Delta variant had similar peak viral levels to those without vaccination.www.medicalnewstoday.com
Don’t know that tweeeter, but ghandi looks different than I remember
That information wont be reported because it will prove natural immunity is the best solution and nobody gets rich off of natural immunity. I know of about 13 or 14 people who have gotten the virus and only a couple of those were vaccinated. I have heard of absolutely no one getting the virus for a second time.
Thank you brother! Common sense is a hell of a thing when you use it.
I hope Clemson puts this in place for the season. Mostly for entertainment purposes on here but also to see if our fans would get it or really take a stand.
So applying the same logic to people that have had COVID and should get vaxxed…should people that got vaxxed and have not have COVID intentionally infect themselves with COVID to have the best protection?
I mean I saw what the vaccine did to my wife who previously had COVID, and there wasn’t any difference in the vaccine symptoms vs real COVID
…and since you are already vaxxed, symptoms of real COVID should be mild, amaright?
You gonna mess around a find out. Lol
Reproducing cards and or misrepresenting what’s on them is a felony.
Headlines should read “Boston College to host six Super Spreader events this Fall.”
Thankfully my anti covid vaccine SIL is alive to tell the story of how she didn’t want to be vaccinated because of the mental gymnastics she applied in determining it wasn’t worth the risks she saw on social media and her BS news Websites.
If there had been a room available, she would have been hospitalized. Thankfully she got well rapidly shortly thereafter.
If there had been a room available, she would have been hospitalized. Thankfully she got well rapidly shortly thereafter.
What are you talking about ? I have my vax card. Who is talking about reproducing them? I simply asked how is the stadium going to know if it’s really theirs or their cousins? Their buddy’s card?
Make sure to stay current on your boosters. Your dates must clear or you’ll be killing thousands.
Yes it is. That’s why you’re seeing mask mandates return. If I infect an unvaccinated adult I feel no sympathy. Their death is not my fault at all. They had ample opportunity to take on some personal responsibility for their health and chose not to do so.
the vaxxed are not spreading it as readily as the nonvaxxed. As for the rest of your comments, you are just flat out wrong again.
God, what a bunch of nobodies. No wonder half of america is so severley misinformed.I am curious how legitimate this site is. There's not a single doctor on their "leadership team".
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Robin Hough
Vice President & Editor in Chief
Robin leads content strategy and operations at Medical News Today. He’s also responsible for growing consumer drug information content and expanding global news coverage across Healthline Media – all in a bid to make the world a healthier place. Before joining MNT, Robin held leadership roles in newsroom innovation at The Guardian and The Telegraph newspapers. He was also managing director of the Axel Springer-owned news platform Upday for Samsung. Robin has a degree in modern history from Oxford University, lives in London with his wife and two children, and harbors ill-advised passions for Batman comics, endurance cycling, and his beloved Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Honor Whiteman
Editorial Director
Honor joined Medical News Today in 2013 as News Writer, putting her bachelor’s degree in journalism to good use and helping to drive MNT forward as a leader in medical news and health information. She now helps lead MNT’s editorial strategy, with a key focus on the production of accurate, evidence-backed clinical content that empowers readers to take healthy actions. In her down time, Honor loves writing short crime stories, hiking, gardening, playing netball, and watching reruns of ’90s TV shows.
Jasmin Collier
Senior Copy Editor
Jasmin joined Medical News Today in 2016. Before this, she obtained a degree in English literature and spent several months working at a publishing house that produced pharmaceutical journals. As Senior Copy Editor, Jasmin co-leads a team of steadfast copy editors who are responsible for ensuring consistency, accessibility, and empathy in every article MNT produces. Jasmin’s interests include conscious language and making sure that every reader, regardless of their identity or background, has access to the information they need to make their best health decisions. Outside of work, Jasmin enjoys cooking, walking, and fantasizing about hosting a true crime podcast.
James McIntosh
Senior Editor, Clinical Demand
James joined Medical News Today in 2014 after completing a master’s degree in creative and critical writing and with 5 years of experience within the British National Health Service (NHS). As Senior Editor for the Demand team, he leads a team dedicated to providing reliable and up-to-date information for those curious about their health. James has a keen interest in healthcare accessibility and halting the spread of misinformation with regard to health and wellness. In his spare time, he enjoys watching and playing football, making and performing music with his incredibly cool band, and watching wrestling.
Robert Hanson
Senior Editorial Director, Global News
Robert joined Healthline Media in 2012 after holding several editorial and marketing roles at Yahoo!, Avid, and Penton Media. During his time with Healthline Media, Robert has held leadership roles within content marketing, original video, and news. At the close of 2020, he took on an expanded role managing the global news team, which includes both Healthline and Medical News Today. Robert is a graduate of the University of California, Santa Barbara. And in his spare time, you can find him contributing to the local San Francisco music scene, traveling the world, or attempting to perfect classic Roman pasta.
Tim Newman
Senior Editor, News
After completing a bachelor’s degree in neuroscience at the U.K.’s University of Manchester, Tim changed course entirely to work in sales, marketing, and analysis. Realizing that his heart truly lies with science and writing, he changed course once more and joined the Medical News Today team as News Writer. Now Senior Editor for News, Tim leads a team of top-notch writers and editors who report on the latest medical research from peer reviewed journals. He also pens a few articles himself. When he gets the chance, he enjoys listening to the heaviest metal, watching the birds in his garden, thinking about dinosaurs, and wrestling with his children.
Laura Persons
Managing Editor, Consumer Drug Information
Laura joined Healthline in 2015 and became part of the Medical News Today team in 2020. Having previously worked at a patient education publisher, a university, and a zoo, Laura has extensive experience writing and editing medical content (be it hippo- or human-focused). As Managing Editor of MNT’s Consumer Drug Information, Laura works to create drug content that’s accurate, engaging, and educational. Her goal is to help readers make the most informed decisions about their use of medications. When she’s not contemplating the difference between a generic and a biosimilar, Laura enjoys hiking, traveling, and spending time with her family in Denver.
Yvette Brazier
Senior Editor, Updates
Yvette joined Medical News Today in 2015 after 10 years teaching English for Health Communications at the Higher Colleges of Technology in Dubai. Her qualifications include a master’s degree with a focus on linguistics. Yvette is Senior Editor for the Updates team. This team aims to ensure that all of MNT’s content stays accurate and up to date and that the information it provides matches current guidelines. She also heads up an initiative to encourage sustainability. At weekends, Yvette spends time walking or cycling in the local countryside. She also volunteers to help people in need on the streets at night.
You’ve most definitely infected and inevitably killed several people in your lifetime spreading influenza. Those people could’ve done things to prevent them from getting the flu, but they were too stupid and fat and ignorant. Is what it is I guess.
I understand. I’ve heard people that shared similar views on the homeless, drug addicted, lazy unemployed, the fats, the poors, the kids that can’t read good, differing sexual orientation.
I would hope we would have compassion and love on all of em, not just those with which we agree. Even you, John Hugh. Even the little trust fund spoiled youngsters.
Surprised by your comments and hate John Hugh
Someone else’s stupidity, misinformation, and obvious choice to be a burden will draw no sympathy from me. Many of those groups you listed have multi factorial reasons behind how they ended up where they were. The average anti-vaxxer is just an idiot. As mentioned as nauseam, these anti-vaxxers then hoard valuable healthcare resources resulting in unnecessary deaths of non-idiots. So yeah, forgive me if I’m a little frustrated with the overall stupidity of this country and the fact that the same people who tend to bitch and moan about “mooches” and lazy people are putting themselves in that same group right now.
I see your point, but let’s be honest, most of the unemployed fit the same description. Most of the homeless? Yep. That way because of their drug addiction. Most of the poor? Yep, their is opportunity for them too. Cmon man. Open your eyes and quit hating
An educated idiot or an idiot because her research is different from your opinion.
If you are too lazy to listen to it all. Start at the 5:00 mark.
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The problem boils down to the division in this country over everything. So much misinformation from both saids and trust has been lost.
A government taking a personal liberty away from an American is why America was formed in the 1st place.
A government taking a personal liberty away from an American is why America was formed in the 1st place.
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I don't know that, but I think that re-infection is generally less severe. I have heard some who have had worse symptoms the 2nd time, but those have been rare.
If a vaxxed gives it to a vaxxed, it is no big deal. If a vaxxed gets it from an unvaxxed, it probably aint a big deal. If a vaxxed gives it to an unvaxxed, it could be a really big deal. If an unvaxxed gives it to an unvaxxed, it is the biggest deal of all. Write this down, and keep it with you for periodic reminders.
Natural immunity is awesome if you are okay with the millions and millions of people who would die while we wait for everyone to to get there.
I have people who I care about deeply that wouldn’t survive it. I’d be fine…sure. But I’m not that selfish.
Not that it matters to your scientific study of “the people you know,” but many people are getting covid for a second time.
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