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So I got a question. Trump told us right after he was elected that he had no contacts in Russia. That he hadn't talked to anyone in Russia in years. That no one on his campaign team had any contact with the Russians. Given the fact that there were plans for a Trump Tower in Russia and that Putin was offered the Penthouse to sweeten the deal. AND that we now have a confirmed 14 members of his campaign that had contact with Russians do you still believe him?
 
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I really encourage you to do some reading on Occam's razor.

Dude please. No Trump supporter could ever subscribe to this "Wild and Crazy" theory. Remember Trump supporters believe EVERYTHING that comes out of Trump's mouth. And Trump absolutely subscribes to conspiracy theories. Here's just a few things Trump told his supporters:

Ted Cruz's father helped kill JKF.

Obama wasn't born in the US.

Vince Foster (Clinton Aid) was murdered by the Clintons b/c he "knew too much"

MMR vaccines cause Autism.

Muslims were celebrating on NJ rooftops during 911.

Scallia was murdered.

Asbestos is not dangerous, but the mob conned people into thinking that.

The Emmy's were rigged so that the Apprentice would not win.

Democrats rigged the death toll in PR so that he (Trump) would look bad.
 
Anyone with half a clue about stock based comp knows that most execs have programmatic selling that is usually released to the market months in advance.

What’s funnier than that, is the morons asking Pichai questions yesterday. Lamar Smith in particular was a total moron. We need these technologically idiots out of office ASAP.
 
So I got a question. Trump told us right after he was elected that he had no contacts in Russia. That he hadn't talked to anyone in Russia in years. That no one on his campaign team had any contact with the Russians. Given the fact that there were plans for a Trump Tower in Russia and that Putin was offered the Penthouse to sweeten the deal. AND that we now have a confirmed 14 members of his campaign that had contact with Russians do you still believe him?

Look. No offense, but I can't argue with ignorance. Believing twisted half-truths is no way to go through life.
 
Look. No offense, but I can't argue with ignorance. Believing twisted half-truths is no way to go through life.

Whatever man. You KNOW the quote. I've asked you about it SEVERAL times. TRUMP said he had NO CONTACT with Russia. Not in years. Said he had no one to call in Russia. Also said that to the best of his knowledge, no one in his campaign did. Those are words DIRECTLY out of his mouth to his supporters and the rest of America. While the Trump tower dead was still going on (or if you don't believe Cohen) then dead for about 6 months. They were a flat out lie. You know it and I know it. My point here is that you (as a Trumpian) can't even admit it. You are that brainwashed by him.

AND the above is my argument about the deep state. That whole argument is based on Trumpians believing Trump over a whole bunch of other people. But Trump lies... A LOT.
 
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You can and should, it begins with evidence. Demand it.

STOP IT MAN. Trump says things with no evidence all the time:

Climate Report? Nope, don't believe it. All those scientists have an agenda.
Mueller investigation? Witch Hunt! Nothing to see here.. THEY are out to get Trump.
Millions of Illegals voting is why he lost the popular vote. Evidence? Nope.
Dems altered the PR death toll to "make Trump look bad". Evidence? Nope.
Fake new media "making up stories" to make Trump look bad.

The list goes on and on.

And the Trumpians swallow whatever he puts it their mouths. Which is my point above. Trump asks his followers to believe a lot of important things based on his word and little else. But the man has spent a lifetime saying whatever benefits him (Truth has nothing to do with it). That certainly hasn't changed. But if Trumpians admit this, well, they don't have a lot else to stand on but Trump's word (which has never been any good). So they HAVE to believe his crap, evidence be damned.

There's even a playbook on what to do when you are faced with stuff like this. Attack an Obama decision, or make a Hillary Bengazi reference. Blame whatever on the fake news media and finally, attack the person arguing with you in a personal way... you know... libtard, radical left... whatever and best of all, say that the person is still butthurt over the election loss.
 
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Trump says things with no evidence all the time:

Climate Report? Nope, don't believe it. All those scientists have an agenda.
Mueller investigation? Witch Hunt! Nothing to see here.. THEY are out to get Trump.
Millions of Illegals voting is why he lost the popular vote. Evidence? Nope.
Dems altered the PR death toll to "make Trump look bad". Evidence? Nope.
Fake new media "making up stories" to make Trump look bad.

The list goes on and on.

And the Trumpians swallow whatever he puts it their mouths. Which is my point above. Trump asks his followers to believe a lot of important things based on his word and little else. But the man has spent a lifetime saying whatever benefits him (Truth has nothing to do with it). That certainly hasn't changed. But if Trumpians admit this, well, they don't have a lot else to stand on but Trump's word (which has never been any good). So they HAVE to believe his crap, evidence be damned.

There's even a playbook on what to do when you are faced with stuff like this. Attack an Obama decision, or make a Hillary Bengazi reference. Blame whatever on the fake news media and finally, attack the person arguing with you in a personal way... you know... libtard, radical left... whatever and best of all, say that the person is still butthurt over the election loss.
I don't really disagree with any of this, but if I call out @orangelvis for making assertions without evidence, then I have to support that point if I am going to be consistent.

Of course he doesn't offer any evidence in his defense, but that's mostly because he doesn't offer any defense. He simply hand-waves away your point, which is really his go-to move anytime making his point stops being fun and becomes effort.
 
I don't really disagree with any of this, but if I call out @orangelvis for making assertions without evidence, then I have to support that point if I am going to be consistent.

Of course he doesn't offer any evidence in his defense, but that's mostly because he doesn't offer any defense. He simply hand-waves away your point, which is really his go-to move anytime making his point stops being fun and becomes effort.

Agreed. I do try and support my points with evidence. It can be frustrating though... You site government data, or scientific journals and the Trumpians respond with conspiracy theories. Take the climate issues. Literally thousands of scientists saying one thing with data stacked on top of data. But Trumpians don't believe it b/c Trump doesn't believe it. Trump's response is that the Scientist are all lying so they can get more funding.
 
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Agreed. I do try and support my points with evidence. It can be frustrating though... You site government data, or scientific journals and the Trumpians respond with conspiracy theories. Take the climate issues. Literally thousands of scientists saying one thing with data stacked on top of data. But Trumpians don't believe it b/c Trump doesn't believe it. Trump's response is that the Scientist are all lying so they can get more funding.

I think you have to view the political debates here from the lens of an impartial objective observer, rather than if you have convinced the other party that they are incorrect. At a certain point you know you have won and can walk away without finding agreement with the person you debate with.

If you leave evidence and they claim the evidence is wrong or tainted, well now they have made an assertion they need to prove. Otherwise you have won for all intents and purposes.
 
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