Got a little coup d'é·tat brewing in Mother Russia
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Be careful as there are people on this board who are fans of Russia and Putin.areful
From 2-23-22 ...
Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday described Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “genius” and “savvy,” praising his onetime counterpart for a move that has spurred sanctions and universal condemnation from the U.S. government and its trans-Atlantic allies.
“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”
Not so sure this is a good thing. Prigozhin and his Wagner group are very bad people. Best thing that can happen is these guys take pressure off Ukrainian forces
Proving that saying: “just when you think it can’t get worse in Russia, it gets worse.”
An unfortunate people.
Would be nice to see Putin run out of town by some moderate politicians and generals. But not this Perghozin guy.
An unfortunate people.
Would be nice to see Putin run out of town by some moderate politicians and generals. But not this Perghozin guy.
another politically unstable nuclear power. what could go wrong?
Why do I feel like this is going to get moved to the other board........
Im not even gonna pretend to know how the potential power vacuum would work. A truly elected leader would be good though
You love to see successful foreign policy.
Maybe Wagner gets a bunch of Russian army soldiers to defect to get out of a no win situation in Ukraine
EXACTLY. This isn’t a good thing for anyone, except the Ukrainians.
You guys realize Putin will put the blame on our shoulders right? And he could be right, idk. But I wouldn’t be celebrating this… Who the hell knows what this will lead to
The problem with Russia is that the 130-140 ppl that are effectively able to be a part of a coup all see the World and Russia's place in it the same way. This will have no impact on Ukraine and even the Wagner Chief is admitting that.
I agree - this is not a reason to celebrate. It’s a reason to be very concerned. Russia has always been a “choose your poison” kinda country. Chances this thing goes south are far greater than it ending up positive.
And I don’t have confidence our own national security/state department folks have the ability to steer us through the fallout.
Yeah. I don’t understand why we are involved at all.
Perghozin’s rationale for the coup seems to be a personal vendetta against the Russian defense minister. Publicly, he seems to be saying he is upset over a friendly fire incident. Could very well be that his invoices for mercenary services are not getting paid.
Either way, not exactly someone who is pursuing a moral high ground for the betterment of the nation.
Either way, not exactly someone who is pursuing a moral high ground for the betterment of the nation.
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Love me some orc infighting. What a beautiful sight.
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Wagner's been planning this for months. Takes time to stockpile weapons and gear.
As long as they keep their disagreements on the other side of the world I do not care what they do. Russia has been and always will be ruled by crazy folks. My advice is leave them alone.
Kill Putin, but whoever takes over after him probably won't be any better.
Guys putin was potentially invading poland next. The infighting in Russia is a calculated welcome outcome as far as world peace in concerned . Weve dealt with a russian power vaccuum a few times
Putin was “potentially invading Poland next” ???
Says who? Where’s that coming from ??
Russia has historically always wanted to expand west.Helping Ukraine is part of an effort to stop that from occurring
Libs can’t defend their positions without thinking about Trump.
Would seem so. The more I have read this morning, the more it sounds like he simply saw an opportunity. 90% of Russian forces are in Ukraine. And the other 10% are the weakest and least trained. He's like a thief who sees a car with the door open and the keys in the ignition.
There is some dark humor in one account I read that said the defense ministry was in disarray because it was Friday night and they were all slammed drunk.
Anything that further weakens Russia is a good thing.
Poland is a member of NATO. I highly doubt he would try that. Article 5 would kick in
Some might call the US a bully...and would be justified. Different story....along with US Education.... being a fvcking joke K-12.
There is nothing in this situation that has any cooler heads to prevail. Putin is done. His battle Afield officers and men can be seen in multiple videos from multiple instances of running from danger in the face of the enemy....or it could also be said they're running to save their own asses. The EU and NATO (fvck the UN) are breathing down his neck.
The US has provided weaponry, especially the bigger and more deadly drones. Read an article this morning about the Ukraine destroying over $30M of Russian weaponry with a homemade $1000 drone. The Ukraine thinks out of the box.
I think the Ukraine will be a good ally if they should choose to join the West.
Right, but until a little over a year ago the prevailing notion was that NATO was a paper Tiger and increasingly viewed in the west as an anachronism. There’s a big reason why Trump, La Pen, etc seem to benefit from convenient interference from Russian cyber and intelligence ops. They’re all conveniently of isolationist, anti-NATO bent and likely to engage in policies of appeasement if Putin were to further advance his stated ambitions of restoring the borders of imperial Russia/USSR. Just look at how the vatnik soup of right wing US troll “independent” media has covered the war in Ukraine thus far.
Im of the camp, “the devil you know.”
One of these renegade tycoon generals gets hold of a nuke… all bets are off.
One of these renegade tycoon generals gets hold of a nuke… all bets are off.
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Could have said the exact same thing following the collapse of the soviet union. I'm in the camp of putting a bullet between putin's eyes and then dragging his corpse behind a truck
