Why should I get the vaccine. It doesn’t stop you from catching it or spreading it. If it’s so great, if you are vaccinated why worry about other peoples status.
Got the omicron
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Because sheep brains can’t comprehend this.
Problem bro, is you affect others. Infect is more like it. You don't give them a chance to just say no. Again, jmo.
The metallic taste of coffee haunts me to this day. I went without for a month and I LIVE for morning coffee. 😂
I've been vaccilating about the booster. When the morons in DC started talking about the possible need for a second booster, I put it on hold. I know all who vaccinated took a leap of faith from Washington, DC. That's scary as hell to even consider they have the best intentions of We the People on their minds. You can:t lie like a cheap rug ever since the Reagan Presidency and expect us to really believe them. JMO
Because it greatly reduces either scenario.
I swear, our education system has failed for far too long and it’s costing us dearly right now.
So you don't die when you catch it
Unvaxxed, fever for a couple days before Christmas along with cold symptoms. Felt lethargic for a few days and still have a mild cough.
Two other unvaxxed family members had it a couple weeks ago with milder symptoms than mine and another had an excruciating headache and vomiting to go along with the cold symptoms.
Two other unvaxxed family members had it a couple weeks ago with milder symptoms than mine and another had an excruciating headache and vomiting to go along with the cold symptoms.
I’m recovering now. Very mild case. Started with fatigue. Then headache and flu like symptoms. I ran a fever for a couple of hours. But mostly headache and body pains in the morning (felt like I had been camping on the ground).
That narrative is not entirely accurate now - I know 1st hand. Vaccinated people are getting sick now. Yes, it does help lessen the symptoms but have had several get really sick even with it.
Would guess that the "unvaccinated" population has had a variant a time or two now.
i'm not a historian but i'm guessing reagan presidency wasn't the first to lie/deceive (nixon?)
Thats not true. I know someone who is healthy, vaxxed and got a booster shot that is in the hospital right now. There are certainly people still getting really sick even with it
Contracted Omicron the night of the bowl game. Mild cold like symptoms started on New Years Day. No fever but some congestion and runny nose. Felt a little fatigued and achy so I got Tested and tested positive. Quarantined my 5 days at home. Fortunate to be able to work from home. Never had a fever and mild symptoms gone by day 3. 100% back to normal now.
Super contagious though. Our game watch party was a minor super spreader event with our family all getting it but everyone that got it has had extremely mild symptoms.
My father who is in his 70’s was walking 3 miles a day outside not even realizing he was positive until we told him to get tested and got positive results several days later.
Super contagious though. Our game watch party was a minor super spreader event with our family all getting it but everyone that got it has had extremely mild symptoms.
My father who is in his 70’s was walking 3 miles a day outside not even realizing he was positive until we told him to get tested and got positive results several days later.
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Getting a test when you were showing no symptoms is the dumbest freaking thing. That’s the problem right now. Somebody gets the sniffles, they run off to CVS and get a test.
Look up the studies numbers published by ONS UK this past week and see how much vaccines matter against this variant.
I’ve had delta, or at least I was told that’s what I had. Fully recovered. Had a cocktail of meds taken for various symptoms when they appeared and was back to normal 2 days after taking first meds.
I am obese and pre diabetic. My wife also caught it, she has several auto immune conditions, she had the exact same experience as me.
The shots aren’t safe. They aren’t worth the risk and if you actually get treatments given by good doctors that practice medicine you won’t even sniff a hospital.
This isn’t theory, this is what actually happened to two people each in the “it’s really bad and likely deadly if you get it” category.
We were fine, 48 hours after having temps reaching 103, oxygen in the mid 80’s etc….
Vaccinated people have gotten sick throughout it. Some of it is age, comorbities (diabetes, weight, etc), and just general health. But the numbers are clear - vaccinated gives you a much better chance of not having a severe adverse reaction.
From Prisma in SC.
Since this is a football board let's try this comparison.
CLEMSON FOOTBALL QB PLAY COMPARISON TO THE VACCINE:
Comparing the vaccine to Clemson QBs over a full football season.
With VACCINE:
It's like going through a full football season with TL#16 or DW4 as your QB. You don't know which one you would get but it would be one or the other each and every week. They both were great all-time but had an off week every now and then. But still you would rather have them at QB than anyone else.
Without VACCINE:
You are randomly assigned every other QB who has ever played for Clemson. One week you could get Rodney Williams vs Penn State in the Citrus Bowl when he was absolutely lights out and we drubbed Joe Pa 35-10. You could get Steve Fuller when he was an All-American who ran the option to perfection and was a very good passer. You could get Homer Jordan beating Georgia. Or you could get a Louis Soloman passing attack, a Cullen Harper up and down season or a Will Proctor.
At worst, you end up with DJ vs Georgia performance. 🪦💀
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No Omicron for me yet unless asymptomatic but I have been around several who have had it. I am not vaxxed and two have 2 jabs and one has 3 jabs. I did have covid in Jan 2021.
They reported headache and sore throats and low fever for a few days.
They reported headache and sore throats and low fever for a few days.
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These numbers are very similar across the country. I’m not claiming the vaccine is 100% preventative of having the disease or transmission. But in my personal experience as well as all of the data released, vaccinated people are much less likely to have severe disease requiring mechanical ventilation. I’ve encouraged all of my friends and family to get it.Vaccinated people have gotten sick throughout it. Some of it is age, comorbities (diabetes, weight, etc), and just general health. But the numbers are clear - vaccinated gives you a much better chance of not having a severe adverse reaction.
From Prisma in SC.
At this point, I’m honestly tired of arguing with people about it.
I am a conservative if that matters to anyone…
I too have it. Tested + yesterday.
Exact same symptoms without the chills, and don’t think I have run a fever. I was beginning to think I was immune after I didn’t catch it when my wife had it, much worse, five months ago.
I have both Moderna shots as of the end of August, no booster..
It depends on your health, age, if you had a natural infection, and how long ago since you had your jabs.
Currently for Omicron - in Canada, the UK, Germany, Denmark, Israel government data - they all show negative vaccine effectiveness for catching Omicron and case rates are much higher for the vaccinated.
Some of the unvaxxed are catching it but the data is not clear if these are people with natural immunity or not.
The good news is that it is mild and South Africa reported in a study that Omicron appears to neutralize the prior variants which is great news since it is mild infection and is effectively a vaccine. So hopefully Omicron ends the pandemic and the senseless discussions regarding mandates.
I’m tired of arguing about it too. However when people put information as blatantly false as you I have to engage.
My personal experience is the exact opposite of yours. There is not data released in the last week that backs any claim you’re making. The virus, hospitalization’s, vents, death, are all higher where there is higher rates of vaccination.
Excess death, especially in the younger population is also higher and trends where vaccination is higher. These are the actual data and facts. The WHO website is a great source to track this info.
I’m a conservative if that matters to you.
Have a friend (vaccinated) who got it and had pretty mild symptoms of sore throat couple of days and slight fever for 1 day. His brother (not vaccinated) also got it and his symptoms were worse and lasted about a week. Not sure it had to do with being vax'd or just affects people differently?
From a transmission standpoint, it is a fact that the vaxxed are transmitting more than the unvaxxed.
So this means that any positive benefits of the vaxx are strictly personal - not societal. A vaxxed person can just as easily infect you 90 year old grandma as an unvaxxed person.
“my friend who is the head nurse at the VA hospital, no one else does either...takes them 3+ months to get variant results after sending off data.”
a fact most don't seem to be aware of.
Cool man. I’d love to know what you do for a living. Physician? Virologist? Infectious disease?
If there was anything good to come out of this, it was that you were vaccinated and couldn't get anyone else sick and couldn't be contagious. That's what the news says anyways....smh Glad you are better
I had the first round of Covid and got off very easy except for losing my taste and smell for a solid 9 days, and my sense of smell is still not 100% a year later. Afterwards I got both Moderna shots, but no booster. I’m pretty sure I had the cron after Christmas because we were in a major hot spot and I had the light symptoms that come with it, but I’m not sure.
What has bothered me through the entirety of this pandemic is the lack of logic that is being applied, especially regarding the vax and masking. On the vax, one “side” thinking that the vax was going to eliminate the virus and stop it from spreading, when all data said that was not going to happen. On the other side people saying that a vax is not going to do anything for you at all, when it is clear that it will lessen the effects, which is only logical since having some antibodies has to be better than having no antibodies.
Long term, I’m not a fan of the vax except for those that are in a high risk category, have not had the virus, and don’t have one of the rare disorders that seem to increase the risk of taking the vax. The current data seems to be pointing to the vax effectiveness dropping quickly after 6 months and the booster after just 10 weeks. Are people really going to get a booster 5 times a year when most people don’t get a flu shot once a year?
But again, if you fit in my exception sentence above, and being overweight is one of the higher risk categories, you are probably going to be better off getting the vax and having some antibodies If you haven’t already had Covid.
For Omicron, by far more vaxxed people are catching it. And it is worse with a booster. Now for some reason this is happening (Antigenic Imprinting or ADE for example). The vaxx was designed for the Wuhan variant and now we have Alpha, Beta, and Delta - and now a completely new virus which is radically different.
This is why both Pfizer and Moderna says that the vaccine does not work against Omicron.
Now imagine that Omicron turned out to be severe disease with the vaxxed preferentially catching it. What would the world be like today with massive issues for the vaxxed population?
We could still have a future variant that could become severe disease. So we need to have much more focus on therapeutics as treatments. When are the Medical Bureaucrats going to realize that trying to defeat these virus requires much more than the singular sledgehammer of a vaccine created for the Wuhan variant.
Our daughter tested positive 2.5 weeks ago. 1 day of fever. Cough that persisted for days. Other than that, no symptoms. Daughter had just received second dose of Pfizer the month before.
Wife and I quarantined from daughter in house. We managed to stay negative and symptomatic through the following week (PCR tests).
A week mater, New Years Eve, we were exposed to someone who started having fever, body aches, chills etc the next day New Years Day. My wife and I - our symptoms started 3 days later - on Monday - and are the same now going on Day 6 today. Similar to those described above.
PCR test confirmed active CV. I really thought it was the flu though due to chills and body aches and because what we are experiencing seems much worse than what’s being talked about in TV. But flu tests was negative.
Our symptoms - more similar to gooddogjudge. Pounding headache at night is worst. And there has been no change since Monday. Keeping hoping to wake up and things just be clear. But hasn’t happened yet.
Treating - DayQuil during day and Mucinix at night. Vitamin C, D, Zinc. Staying hydrated with water and Powerade.
Vaxx - 3 Pfizer’s with booster in October. Plus flu shot
Can’t remember last time wife or I missed a day of work due to illness. It has been years. Many years. We have both been home for a week. We are not experiencing just “SNIFFLES” as some have described.
How could anyone possibly be unvaccinated at that point. That is frankly absurd.
It is not a vaccine. That is the incorrect term in every sense of the word. It is a shot.
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I tested positive Tuesday the week before last. Felt like I had a decent cold, but with more lower back pain, body aches, and fatigue. The fatigue and aches mostly went away after the first few days, then the congestion mostly cleared up after 4-5 days. I felt pretty normal after probably 3-4 days, so I started the 5 day countdown on the Saturday of the week I tested positive. My wife had more of the GI symptoms than I did, and got it 4-5 days after me. She’s still got congestion, but doesn’t have any other symptoms at this point.
We’re both boosted, so not sure how representative all of that would be for an unvaccinated person. I’d make sure to talk to your doctor and potentially get the monoclonal antibodies if you qualify.
We’re both boosted, so not sure how representative all of that would be for an unvaccinated person. I’d make sure to talk to your doctor and potentially get the monoclonal antibodies if you qualify.
Is lower back pain a common symptom? So about a week ago I had horrible lower back pain (similar to flu) that gradually went away after a week. No other symptoms other than an occasional sneeze and runny nose. Do we think I had it?
If you’re still unvaxxed at this point I have zero sympathy for you. Good luck
Vaccinated people have gotten sick throughout it. Some of it is age, comorbities (diabetes, weight, etc), and just general health. But the numbers are clear - vaccinated gives you a much better chance of not having a severe adverse reaction.
From Prisma in SC.
Since this is a football board let's try this comparison.
CLEMSON FOOTBALL QB PLAY COMPARISON TO THE VACCINE:
Comparing the vaccine to Clemson QBs over a full football season.
With VACCINE:
It's like going through a full football season with TL#16 or DW4 as your QB. You don't know which one you would get but it would be one or the other each and every week. They both were great all-time but had an off week every now and then. But still you would rather have them at QB than anyone else.
Without VACCINE:
You are randomly assigned every other QB who has ever played for Clemson. One week you could get Rodney Williams vs Penn State in the Citrus Bowl when he was absolutely lights out and we drubbed Joe Pa 35-10. You could get Steve Fuller when he was an All-American who ran the option to perfection and was a very good passer. You could get Homer Jordan beating Georgia. Or you could get a Louis Soloman passing attack, a Cullen Harper up and down season or a Will Proctor. At worst, you end up with DJ vs Georgia style performance.
Wish they would publish stats using things like obesity. Very high correlation to hospitalization.
And losing weight is free, there are no adverse conditions, etc. It’s baffling to me that we can criticize people making choices about the vaccine but not people who are willfully unhealthy and creating a burden for our healthcare system.
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