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Which is funny, because people who say this apparently don’t understand why there are already multiple vaccine requirements. You’re not clever, and this situation with vaccines isn’t unique.
Not that i disagree with you but those vaccines you refer to have been around for a long time. Lot of people simply dont trust our government especially when it comes to mandatory medicine
 
Problem bro, is you affect others. Infect is more like it. You don't give them a chance to just say no. Again, jmo.
The vaccine doesn’t prevent you from spreading China virus. Try again.

What’s a good reason for a person in a low risk age group with no autoimmune issues to get a vaccine with serious side effects in the short term and not nearly enough research to know the long term impacts?
 
Cool man. I’d love to know what you do for a living. Physician? Virologist? Infectious disease?
I work in sales. My wife is a ENT. I get to listen to world renown doctors while driving between appointments all day. I love it. I crave the info they share and the links they provide to verify their data. It’s fascinating to me how utterly wrong so many are concerning this virus.

I’ve enjoyed my wife and i’s discussions over the diner table about what I learned that day and she sets me straight or further excited me with agreeing and encouraging. It’s been a fun last 6 months helping people discover there are treatments that are safe, they don’t need the shots, they don’t have to fear etc…

We have been able to help people get off ventilators and walk out of hospitals. One person had even received two shots of Pfizer and been on a vent for 20 days. The wife finally got treatment to her husband and he improved drastically right away and by day ten walked out of the hospital. This is real life. Treatments work. The shots may work for a very short season but they also are a huge risk with the death count from them rising by the hundreds.
 
Which is funny, because people who say this apparently don’t understand why there are already multiple vaccine requirements. You’re not clever, and this situation with vaccines isn’t unique.
You mean vaccines that have been around for decades, some for near 100 years, and thus have ample research on both short and long term side effects?

Also those mandatory vaccines have the positive side effect of actually preventing the spread of the disease they seek to inoculate against, unlike the Chinese virus vaccine.
 
These numbers are very similar across the country. I’m not claiming the vaccine is 100% preventative of having the disease or transmission. But in my personal experience as well as all of the data released, vaccinated people are much less likely to have severe disease requiring mechanical ventilation. I’ve encouraged all of my friends and family to get it.
At this point, I’m honestly tired of arguing with people about it.
I am a conservative if that matters to anyone…
It’s honestly not worth it with some of these folks. They’re “doing their own research” and have over a year of experience of ignoring official data that they don’t like and cherry picking from random people on Twitter they like. Luckily, everybody is probably going to be fine with this omicron variant. Maybe it will be what gets us past these emergency measures.
 
Not that i disagree with you but those vaccines you refer to have been around for a long time. Lot of people simply dont trust our government especially when it comes to mandatory medicine
Which is fine, but those vaccines were new at one point, too. If we’d just waited 10 years after approval to make sure that nothing too bad might’ve happened within 10 years of vaccination (and anything past a few months is arbitrary, anyway) then those vaccines wouldn’t have been very good at addressing the emergencies they were developed for. People are just being ornery about being told what to do. I get the attitude, but it’s not really rational.
 
Because it greatly reduces either scenario.

I swear, our education system has failed for far too long and it’s costing us dearly right now.
No it doesn’t…per the CDC…

The vaxx may or may not reduce your symptoms but why do you care how sick I may get? You’re vaccinated so you should be good, right?! I prefer not to have needles hanging out of my arm every other month so let me worry about me…

And if it works so well, explain this…my parents have had Covid over the past week…mom is vaxxed (due to being a nurse only, not bc she wanted it), dad isn’t…one got it first. One got sicker. One still has lingering effects. The answer is the same for all…my vaxxed mom. Her opinion of the vaccination was low before…you can imagine what it is now.
 
You mean vaccines that have been around for decades, some for near 100 years, and thus have ample research on both short and long term side effects?

Also those mandatory vaccines have the positive side effect of actually preventing the spread of the disease they seek to inoculate against, unlike the Chinese virus vaccine.
Tell me about the “long term side effects” of vaccines that don’t show up within a couple of months. Maybe you could also tell us how live or attenuated virus vaccines are somehow safer than vaccines that don’t have the actual virus in them.
 
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No it doesn’t…per the CDC…

The vaxx may or may not reduce your symptoms but why do you care how sick I may get? You’re vaccinated so you should be good, right?! I prefer not to have needles hanging out of my arm every other month so let me worry about me…

And if it works so well, explain this…my parents have had Covid over the past week…mom is vaxxed (due to being a nurse only, not bc she wanted it), dad isn’t…one got it first. One got sicker. One still has lingering effects. The answer is the same for all…my vaxxed mom. Her opinion of the vaccination was low before…you can imagine what it is now.
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Don’t need your sympathy dawg…me & mine are good.
What’s crazy is the lord has been growing my heart for those that have taken the shots.
As a believer I’m called to love and those that got the shots are going to be in all kinds of trouble over the next few years or decades. I feel for them. They trusted and it’s going to end up hurting them.
 
I work in sales. My wife is a ENT. I get to listen to world renown doctors while driving between appointments all day. I love it. I crave the info they share and the links they provide to verify their data. It’s fascinating to me how utterly wrong so many are concerning this virus.

I’ve enjoyed my wife and i’s discussions over the diner table about what I learned that day and she sets me straight or further excited me with agreeing and encouraging. It’s been a fun last 6 months helping people discover there are treatments that are safe, they don’t need the shots, they don’t have to fear etc…

We have been able to help people get off ventilators and walk out of hospitals. One person had even received two shots of Pfizer and been on a vent for 20 days. The wife finally got treatment to her husband and he improved drastically right away and by day ten walked out of the hospital. This is real life. Treatments work. The shots may work for a very short season but they also are a huge risk with the death count from them rising by the hundreds.
Pharma sales? Is your physician wife vaccinated? I’ve never seen an ENT medically treat anyone in an ICU. Would love to hear more about this.
 
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I am all for anyone who wants to get one, two, three or even monthly "vaccines" having the choice to do so. I am not for said person trying to impinge on anothers right to say no thanks. If anything the last 18 months of covid has given me an even greater skepticism of our Federal Government and the vaccine agenda they are pushing upon the American people. To still have Dr Fauci claiming he is not certain the virus came from a lab is a huge red flag to me.

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Anyone that does even minor research with an open mind will determine we have some serious CYA going on within the Federal Government. The CDC has even changed the definition of a vaccine to fit the narrative of the everlasting covid bogeyman. Fauci is a liar plain and simple. He should be brought up on perjury charges for lying to congress. Sadly no one in DC is held liable for anything anymore. Will be interesting to see what the supreme court thinks of President Crap for Brains vax demands for businesses.

Here is a link if you want to partially go down one rabbit hole.

 
Because it greatly reduces either scenario.

I swear, our education system has failed for far too long and it’s costing us dearly right now.
People should do what’s best for their own chemical makeup, medical history, risk tolerance, etc. The end.

If having everyone vaxxed and boosted was the answer, the pandemic wouldn’t be raging more and more as more and more people get vaxxed and boosted. I understand it reduces severity of your case, but that’s on each individual person to determine their risk tolerance.
 
Pharma sales? Is your physician wife vaccinated? I’ve never seen an ENT medically treat anyone in an ICU. Would love to hear more about this.
Tell me about yourself.
Im in Audio/video sales. My wife has not received any mRNA shot.

I’ve never seen an ENT treat in a icu either. The patients wife is the one who gave the prescribed medicine to her husband, not my wife. Sorry to not be clear.
 
What’s crazy is the lord has been growing my heart for those that have taken the shots.
As a believer I’m called to love and those that got the shots are going to be in all kinds of trouble over the next few years or decades. I feel for them. They trusted and it’s going to end up hurting them.
Lol wait I thought we weren’t sure of the long term effects
 
Tell me about yourself.
Im in Audio/video sales. My wife has not received any mRNA shot.

I’ve never seen an ENT treat in a icu either. The patients wife is the one who gave the prescribed medicine to her husband, not my wife. Sorry to not be clear.
I’m a general surgeon. I’m certainly glad the A/V guy is able to crusade on the message boards preventing the widespread disinformation. Keep up the good work.

I see you have kids in your profile pic. Since your wife is an ENT, I’d love to know if you’re going to give them the HPV vaccine since it’s supposed to prevent cervical cancer and types of head and neck cancer.
 
Johnson and Johnson is. And you’re talking about semantics
It’s not even remotely correct, either. The semantics part of it is just people thinking that it’s harder to argue against a vaccine than a “shot.” They’re playing a language game to try to win an argument. It doesn’t help them that it makes no sense to differentiate a “shot” from a “vaccine,” as if there was some sort of species of medical treatment called a “shot” that was in comparison to vaccines.
 
I don't know what variant I had and, according to my friend who is the head nurse at the VA hospital, no one else does either...takes them 3+ months to get variant results after sending off data.

Day 1-3 was 102 degree temps, body aches, chills, headache and searing pain in my chest as I coughed up the nastiest stuff I've ever seen in my life. Lethargy. Vitamins C, D, Zinc, Mucinex, Tylenol Advil.

Days 4-9 - fever was gone. Thought my head was going to explode. Serious pressure in nose/sinuses. Lethargy. Searing pain in chest was gone by day 6. Productive cough continued. Vitamins C, D, Mucinex, Tylenol Advil

Got smart and called Doc on Day 9 and was prescribed steroid Medrol. Within 12 minutes of first dose the pressure in my head lessened and I could breathe through my nose. Lethargy.

Days 10-14 - could take a nap anytime, anywhere. productive cough.

Days 15-16 - continue to cough up stuff. a lot of stuff. Can take a nap anytime, anywhere.

I rarely get sick so I don't have much to compare this to...but it was awful. The worst part was that every day was the same (especially days 4-9) with zero improvement. somehwere around days 3-5 was intermittent Diarrhea.

Good luck. Get the steroid if nasty cough/lower respiratory.

49 years of age. 75" 180 lbs. No underlying issues.

Almost forgot...phizered 3x
Well, if you werent hospitalized, then the vaccine did its job......but it sounds like you may have been a goner if you were unvaxxed....how are your lungs doing ? any scans on your lungs ?
 
Tell me about yourself.
Im in Audio/video sales. My wife has not received any mRNA shot.

I’ve never seen an ENT treat in a icu either. The patients wife is the one who gave the prescribed medicine to her husband, not my wife. Sorry to not be clear.
Is your wife an ENT doctor, or nurse? Does she agree with you about vaccines?
 
Anyone that’s had it what were y’all’s symptoms and how long did they last. Thanks in advance. I have bad headache, lower back pain, chills, running a 100 temp and fatigue also stopped up
Had it over Christmas. Congestion and a cough. Slight exhaustion. Not much other than that. Still dealing with a bit of occasional brain cloud.
 
Anyone that’s had it what were y’all’s symptoms and how long did they last. Thanks in advance. I have bad headache, lower back pain, chills, running a 100 temp and fatigue also stopped up
Had it. Felt bad for 3 hours. Went to bed, felt fine the next morning.
 
It’s not even remotely correct, either. The semantics part of it is just people thinking that it’s harder to argue against a vaccine than a “shot.” They’re playing a language game to try to win an argument. It doesn’t help them that it makes no sense to differentiate a “shot” from a “vaccine,” as if there was some sort of species of medical treatment called a “shot” that was in comparison to vaccines.

The semantics part is less important. The more significant point is that many vaccines actually eradicate a disease. Think polio or small pox. By contrast, things like the flu shot just seasonally affect viral transmissions and severity. The covid vaxx is like the flu shot, not like the polio vaccine. The flu shot is recommended, not mandated. That should be the case here as well.
 
A lot also depends on your age and general health.

If vaccinated and a regular person your chances of getting very sick are nearly non existent.

Unvaccinated, you are rolling the dice. Could be nothing. Could be super serious.

The vaccine works at keeping people out of the hospital and from dying. The stats are more than clear on that point now.

Unfortunately I know several kids who have lost a parent - who was otherwise fine - who refused to get vaccinated. Sad.
The vaccine is also really good at causing people to stroke out.

Unfortunately, I know several kids who have lost a parent - who was otherwise fine - who was forced to get vaccinated to keep their job. Extremely sad, and illegal.
 
I’m a general surgeon. I’m certainly glad the A/V guy is able to crusade on the message boards preventing the widespread disinformation. Keep up the good work.

I see you have kids in your profile pic. Since your wife is an ENT, I’d love to know if you’re going to give them the HPV vaccine since it’s supposed to prevent cervical cancer and types of head and neck cancer.
I was wondering how long it would take for the personal attacks. I hope you can one day have your eyes opened and see the data and what’s happening. Or at least be able to debate honestly and not result to personal attacks.

How long have you been a surgeon?
 
Remember three years ago when you use to get sick? You really didn't know why you were sick because you didn't know the name of the virus. You just called it "the flu." Well guess what? We're back to that folks. Hate to break it to you, but every time you get the sniffles now its not a big deal. Man up. Drive through it. You are not typhoid Mary and need to go into lock down. We're back to normal living as human being. Virus have been around a million years. One of their purposes, is to control the population of man. Deal with it.
 
What’s crazy is the lord has been growing my heart for those that have taken the shots.
As a believer I’m called to love and those that got the shots are going to be in all kinds of trouble over the next few years or decades. I feel for them. They trusted and it’s going to end up hurting them.

There’s a middle ground with this. People all the way on the left getting tested constantly and living in fear are nothing but morons.

Then you have people all the way on the right like this guy talking about God all the time and suggesting anyone who’s had a vaccine will have a issues in a few years is highly strange.
 
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