HOLY SHVT, MARIA TAYLOR JUST SAID THAT IF TONY ELLIOT WERE WHITE
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It was shocking, and I agree that he would have had an opportunity for a HC position with a little more experience. Perhaps the fact that he will be turning 31 in a month and like I said his overall lack of experience. Here is his coaching experience to this point:
As coach:
- William & Mary (2013–2014)
Linebackers coach - Penn State (2015–2016)
Graduate assistant - New Orleans Saints (2017–2018)
Offensive assistant - LSU (2019)
Passing game coordinator & wide receivers coach - Carolina Panthers (2020–present)
Offensive coordinator
Can you imagine the bulldikes that will be roaming the sidelines.
So it's racist when the vast majority of coaches are white, but it's perfectly fine when the vast majority of the players are black??
We never had a POTUS who understood what being a black man in America was like so I understood where he was coming from with that comment. He made other comments where he jumped the gun so to speak and should have waited to gather all the facts before commenting IMO.
I don't even know why I am responding to you but ... do you believe that the hiring practices of college football programs have been totally fair and balanced with no discrimination in regards to minority hiring practices for head coaching positions?So it's racist when the vast majority of coaches are white, but it's perfectly fine when the vast majority of the players are black??
Please explain the status quo to me.
It doesn’t matter to be honest. We hear that there aren’t enough black players in baseball anymore. I guess that’s systemically set up too. Again, guess I missed it at the last white man meeting.
Nothing specific. Minority hiring practices for HC have improved over the past 20 years, but they really had nowhere to go but up from where it was at one time. There are still only two black HC's out of the SEC (1), ACC (1), and Big 12 (0).
Would you like a college version of the Rooney Rule? Perfectly fine if your answer is “yes”, but then I’d have to ask: do you think the Rooney Rule is effective at putting minorities in leadership positions In the NFL?
So unless 100% of Black People think as you do We Are Oppressed?
So unless 100% of Black People Do Not Accept Your Version Of America, We Are Oppressed?
So unless 100% of Black People Do Not Accept Your Version Of MAGA, We Are Oppressed?
So unless 100% of Black People Do Not Accept Your Version Of Brionna Taylor Murder, We Are Oppressed?
So unless 100% of Black People Do Not Accept Your Version Of America...?
We Would Still Be Your Slaves!
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Well, FSU did try.... maybe too hard.
Tony Elliott will make a great HBC one day because of his character and his decision to study and develop under a great leader. Tony is made of the right stuff and I think he can lead men. He could have already had a head coaching position if he thought it was right for Tony. He is smarter than the average bear (and Maria Taylor).
Being a head coach is a different skillset than what it takes to be a good player. It’s a different skillset than being a good coordinator. You can be a good player or technician without being a good leader, manager, visionary and CEO. Most players are not. Most people are not.
Likewise, the best technical minds that make great tech companies go, are horrible leaders and managers. TRUTH.
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I just don't buy the fact that racism is a significant reason there are not more black D1 coaches. I think it is more likely that there is a smaller pool of qualified black candidates. Maybe that has to do with race somewhere lower down the food chain where black coaches are not given the opportunity at lower levels and don't develop some of the skills needed to run a program, I really don't know. I think we are seeing more and more that being a successful D1 coach is as much about, or more, about management than it is about x/o knowledge. If there are less black candidates that have been given the opportunity to manage a program at lower levels, it would shrink the candidate pool of coaches qualified to do it at the D1 level. Also, I am sure there are isolated cases where there are AD's who are racist, that is just a fact. There are racist people in every occupation that exists. To think they don't exist in AD's is ignorant. I am not arguing that the percentage of black head coaches is not too small, I just don't think race is the reason at the D1 level. Too much pressure to win at that level to be bypassing the best candidate because he is black.
If tony was white he’d be Brent lol
I wasn’t around in 1619. And, first time in history? Seems like you’re overlooking and denigrating some pretty important people and events in American history. In fact, placing the rioting and looting of the present above events like the Greensboro sit ins or MLK’s March on Washington seems downright disrespectful.
I would venture to bet most ADs are white males. Coaching landscape is changing and more coaches are getting opportunities but the decision makers need to be more diverse, imho, if you want more diverse decisions. Look at Euro soccer. Almost 0 POC coaches in the EPL. Coaches need opportunities.
Washington hired Jason Wright. Hiring black decision makers will lead to more black coaches.
Washington hired Jason Wright. Hiring black decision makers will lead to more black coaches.
The question is, how many African American assistants get interviewed and passed over by less qualified Non-African American candidates? If the number is disproportionate then there is a problem with the hiring process. If it isn't then the argument is moot.
The bottom line is there are not 5 head coaching jobs above the one he has right now. Probably didn't hurt that he saw Chad Morris go out and check the waters only to end back up at Auburn coaching offense. And being a Coordinator only means you have to coach 1/2 of the players and not the entire team. I am sure if an opportunity pops up to his liking he will interview and maybe even take it. But i don't blame him 1 bit for staying at your alma mater, being ranked in the top 3 in the nation every year, and not having to rebuild to go losing program.
That's 10%. Black males make up roughly 6% of the population
Who defines qualifications? In 2008, Lovie Smith and Charlie Strong were more qualified than Dabo for the Clemson job.
wow!
she is so ignorant
crazy how creative these racist can hide in the media
she thinks she is going to get away with it
backlash coming for lying
jesus christ
tony elliot is playing 3d chess when choosing a HC job like jeff scott did
he is playing the freaking game to maximize his value as well as stability and long term outlook
nothing to do with racism
maria taylor is making up a lie to get clicks or she is a racist herself
????
Do I think schools systematically refuse to hire a coach based on skin color? No
Do I think there should be some kind of rule put in place that says you have to interview a specific person who fits the race criteria? No.
I find it ironic that Tony was hired by Dabo and promoted by Dabo without really having the experience or credentials for the job at the time. So not only was Tony not discriminated against here at Clemson (not the subject, I know that), but he actually rose faster than 99% of white coaches with his same credentials. I don’t know the percentage but the point is made that Tony’s progression has far outpaced the norm.
Why not focus on Tony as an example of a huge success story of a young, smart, black man who beat the odds and helped elevate a relatively small southern school to the top of college football? Or mention that his salary is one of the highest in the country at his position? That doesn’t fit the narrative either I guess..
And focus on the fact that Tony is deliberate and patient and doesn’t really throw himself out there for head coaching jobs. He has said he’d rather build his resume and gain experience and when the right opportunity comes then he’ll look at it.
But because he’s black, another media liberal has a microphone and molds an opposite narrative to the truth so all the emotional-reacting-liberals can jump on the runaway train and claim racism.
And anybody that questions the facts or knows the truth must be racist, right? THAT is what is complete bullshit with what’s going on with this entire movement right now and it really sucks for non-racist people of all colors and the future of our country which is actually being divided further and is not coming together.
Why not focus on Tony as an example of a huge success story of a young, smart, black man who beat the odds and helped elevate a relatively small southern school to the top of college football? Or mention that his salary is one of the highest in the country at his position? That doesn’t fit the narrative either I guess..
And focus on the fact that Tony is deliberate and patient and doesn’t really throw himself out there for head coaching jobs. He has said he’d rather build his resume and gain experience and when the right opportunity comes then he’ll look at it.
But because he’s black, another media liberal has a microphone and molds an opposite narrative to the truth so all the emotional-reacting-liberals can jump on the runaway train and claim racism.
And anybody that questions the facts or knows the truth must be racist, right? THAT is what is complete bullshit with what’s going on with this entire movement right now and it really sucks for non-racist people of all colors and the future of our country which is actually being divided further and is not coming together.
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what happens when white assistants get interviewed and passed over by less qualified african americans in the name of diversity?
Both can be wrong. All these arguments of either/or are asinine.
Are you saying CTE and Joe Brady are equally competent, and they only difference is the color of their skin?
What the world needs is for someone like TE to respond and say I have had several head coaching jobs and I didn’t want to leave where I was.
Then make a comment on how shitty of a reporter she is by talking about something without any facts
If Tony doesn’t speak up then he is part of the problem.
These people need to be called out on this BS
Then make a comment on how shitty of a reporter she is by talking about something without any facts
If Tony doesn’t speak up then he is part of the problem.
These people need to be called out on this BS
Great post and your last point nails it. What’s happening right now is breeding more division and racism and people in this country are too ignorant to see it and ignore those fanning the flames.
I'll bite. The African American population makes up 13% of the USA population. Based purely on statistics if all things were equal there would be 17 black coaches instead of 13. So while 13 is lower than it should be to reach nirvana, it isn't that far off..... again the media pushing false narratives.
I shared a fact, nothing more nothing less. I get your point, but it isn't relevant in this case. How many women are college football coaches? Ok, we just took over 50% of your sample out of the equation. IMO, you have to look at the composition of players to draw relevant comparisons to the coaching demographic. My opinion isn't informed by media narrative, it is formed by what I see and data.
she seems like such a nice person. Hope she’ll step out of the echo chamber and rediscover reality and decency to others
Well look at the number of black NBA players. Is there a major discrepancy considering the % of white players out there? Yes there is.
But that doesn't bother anyone does it? How about hire the right guy regardless of the color of his skin either way.
You're trying to make an argument that just isn't true and doesn't work in reality. Coaching and playing a sport at a high level take completely different skill sets and being good at one doesn't automatically make you good at the other. As a matter of fact there are way too many former players who get head coaching opportunities solely based on their playing careers and fail miserably. As for racism, the only color schools or pro leagues care about when making hiring decisions these days is green. Win games which leads to revenue generation and you'll have a head coaching job. Trying to make an argument against this is only pushing a personal narrative or just willfully ignorant.
