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Holy Smokes. Turkish military staging a coup

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attempt. Don't know if pro or anti government troops involved.
Certainly living in some interesting times!
 
This I think was inevitable, and I think positive. Erdogan was taking the country from mostly secular run, to religiously run-similar to what the Muslim Brotherhood did in Egypt.

But this is huge geopolitical news if it succeeds, or even if it doesn't..

I turned to CNN, nothing about it, then Fox, nothing about it, then to MSNBC, and they are covering it, with Brian WIlliams lol. But at least they are covering what would be the biggest story of 2016.
 
Well I will wait to hear what happened to Edrogan, and where he currently is before I go that far.
He's on holiday leave. This coup was timed intentionally. Edrogan may never set foot in Istanbul again.
 
attempt. Don't know if pro or anti government troops involved.
Certainly living in some interesting times!

Non Islamist is anti government in turkey right now. The president of turkey is an Islamist and is and has been throwing members of the military (Secularists) into prison.
 
He's on holiday leave. This coup was timed intentionally. Edrogan may never set foot in Istanbul again.[/QUOTE

Hopefully Turkish military sends a team to Germany and puts a bullet in his head.
 
Well, The Turkish military does this periodically, every 15 years are so. Seems that's how long it takes for Islamic tendencies to start permeating their gov't. Can only be a good thing.
 
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Well, The Turkish military does this periodically, every 15 years are so. Seems that's how long it takes for Islamic tendencies to start permeating their gov't. Can only be a good thing.

There have been 4 military coups in 50 years. I think it is great, Erdogan was consolidating power and replacing secularists in the police and military with Islamists. Just hoping this coup was well planned, i.e. Taking out (arresting) key figureheads in the National Police and key members of Erdogan's military staff.
 
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There have only been 4 military coups in 50 years. I think it is great, Erdogan was consolidating power and replacing secularists in the police and military with Islamists. Just hoping this coup was well planned, i.e. Taking out (arresting) key figureheads in the National Police and key members of Erdogan's military staff.

That's one every 12.5 years
 
Obama supports Erdogan.

Big surprise! Actually no surprise, after he and Hillary put that Muslim Brotherhood guy into power in Egypt, gave him military aircraft and over a billion dollars. Thank goodness the Egyptian people didn't put up with it.
 
Yeah I don't mean that sarcastically, of course I find it odd our Adm supports democracy when they openly
criticized Brexit... ya know that other democratic piece of work.


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We can not publicly support a coup. Especially when the government being over thrown is a democracy.

BS. The Turkish will remain a democracy when it's all said and done. The Turks have wanted to have secular democratic gov't for a long time. This guy was getting more and more Islamic and all powerful. The coup is more to restore democratic gov't.
 
We can not publicly support a coup. Especially when the government being over thrown is a democracy.

Of course.

But we can publicly denounce democratic referendums in other countries?
 
Big surprise! Actually no surprise, after he and Hillary put that Muslim Brotherhood guy into power in Egypt, gave him military aircraft and over a billion dollars. Thank goodness the Egyptian people didn't put up with it.
They didn't actually put him into power. They were pushing for democratic elections and the Muslim Brotherhood won, which they weren't anticipating.
 
BS. The Turkish will remain a democracy when it's all said and done. The Turks have wanted to have secular democratic gov't for a long time. This guy was getting more and more Islamic and all powerful. The coup is more to restore democratic gov't.
Not sure why this is hard for you to understand. Not surprising though
 
Of course.

But we can publicly denounce democratic referendums in other countries?
Jesus. I get you hate Obama..... but he had no other choice but to come out and support Erdogan. Not sure why this is hard to understand
 
They didn't actually put him into power. They were pushing for democratic elections and the Muslim Brotherhood won, which they weren't anticipating.

So, we just up and give him fighter jets and 1.5 billion for sh!ts and giggles? Keep defending. He, (and Hillary) have failed diplomatically at every turn for 7.5 years. You really can't believe what you're saying. He was also giving money to a faction that was trying to oust Netanyahu. Obama has Muslim Brotherhood advisers at the White House frequently. In fact he's met many more times with Muslim Brotherhood advisers than he ever did with General Flynn; when Flynn was the Director of Defense Intelligence. In fact, Flynn says he never had a meeting with Obama.
 
What's hard to understand, but not surprising, are the folks who defend Obama regardless.
Okay bud, not sure i've ever defended Obama on this board besides from my OP. He did the logical, and only thing he could do in this situation
 
Not sure how you can support a coup of a ally until you know for damn sure it was a success and the new people in power are better.
 
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What's hard to understand, but not surprising, are the folks who defend Obama regardless.
What's hard to understand, but not surprising, are the folks who blame him for everything under the sun. It's like those who play the race card at every junction.
 
Well, history shows that every coup since 1960, (and there have been 3-4), have been to restore a secular, democratic gov't. There was no doubt that this guy, his name escapes me, was moving quickly into some type Islamist control.
Hey, it's Turkey. It's what they do and have been doing for a while now. The main thing is that they remain secular, and by all accounts, that is the underlying principle behind the coup.
Joe was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of O sticking his nose into a democratic process in another country, (Brexit) and then publicly denouncing the outcome.
As for the poster above who thinks O and Hillary had no stake in the Egyption "Arab Spring", the Egyptians think otherwise.
http://www.truthandaction.org/obama...im-brotherhood-conspiracy-egyptian-lawmakers/
 
What's hard to understand, but not surprising, are the folks who blame him for everything under the sun. It's like those who play the race card at every junction.

Just check my link above and see what the Egyptians themselves think about O and Hillary.
I would bend over backwards to praise him if he'd give me cause.
 
Jesus. I get you hate Obama..... but he had no other choice but to come out and support Erdogan. Not sure why this is hard to understand

Hold on there sir... don't paint me with a broad brush. I do not hate our President. I disagree with most of his views and plenty of his parties politics, but I do not hate our C.I.C. I've never stated as much. It concerns me when one cannot be critical of the government without being labeled... as you've just done.

I posted a fact... and in that fact I also tried to show the hypocrisy of which this Adm. is guilty of in several instances. Within minutes of this coup, our Adm posted support for the current regime because ya know... we support democratic elected, selected officials and referendums... unless it doesn't match what narrative they want us to hear.

No sir, I do not hate our President... for the very reasons I support and admire our democratic institutions. And I can disagree, I can criticize, and I can protest against his views without being labeled as such.
 
Hold on there sir... don't paint me with a broad brush. I do not hate our President. I disagree with most of his views and plenty of his parties politics, but I do not hate our C.I.C. I've never stated as much. It concerns me when one cannot be critical of the government without being labeled... as you've just done.

I posted a fact... and in that fact I also tried to show the hypocrisy of which this Adm. is guilty of in several instances. Within minutes of this coup, our Adm posted support for the current regime because ya know... we support democratic elected, selected officials and referendums... unless it doesn't match what narrative they want us to hear.

No sir, I do not hate our President... for the very reasons I support and admire our democratic institutions. And I can disagree, I can criticize, and I can protest against his views without being labeled as such.
Get off your soapbox. Hate/dislike/criticize/disagree whatever, don't care what you call it, He made the right and only decision he could make in supporting Erdogan.

What? Hadn't seen that.. seemed like a couple hours after it already started... Link please
 
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