Big pressure on Biden, Dems to trim $3.5T federal overhaul
Pressure is mounting on President Joe Biden to trim back his $3.5 trillion federal government overhaul to win over holdout fellow Democrats.
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Hopefully, an indicator that both sides can come to their senses....
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Will not happen even if they try to sell the rotten fish as a freshly cut tbone.Big pressure on Biden, Dems to trim $3.5T federal overhaul
Pressure is mounting on President Joe Biden to trim back his $3.5 trillion federal government overhaul to win over holdout fellow Democrats.
The political gamesmanship in play by both sides is utterly despicable to me.
"Something" needs to get done, lest these assholes sink the global economy over a desire to not blink first.
And for the record, AOC and her "squad" are at the top of my shit-list on this, even though all parties involved share some of the blame. America has been crystal clear that we don't want uber-progressive socialism. Even the majority of democrats agree on that, as evidenced by Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren not winning the presidential nomination. They need to grow up, settle down, and do what's right for the American people. Same for the other jerks in charge.
"Something" needs to get done, lest these assholes sink the global economy over a desire to not blink first.
And for the record, AOC and her "squad" are at the top of my shit-list on this, even though all parties involved share some of the blame. America has been crystal clear that we don't want uber-progressive socialism. Even the majority of democrats agree on that, as evidenced by Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren not winning the presidential nomination. They need to grow up, settle down, and do what's right for the American people. Same for the other jerks in charge.
You are right, they all suck. Both sides.
It is a shit show. The progressive dems are now taking a page out of the book of the extreme republican freedom caucus - if they don't get what they want, they will just blow the whole thing up.
The do nothing republicans are back to holding up the debt ceiling increase, something they had no problem supporting the last four years. The irony is that the we need to raise the debt ceiling due to spending and debt increase that happened under Trump.
We need to pass the infrastructure bill, our country needs it badly, which is why it has bipartisan support. We need to pass a smaller version of the other bill. There are some things in it (addressing climate change, free pre K, child care for working families) that I think are necessary for economic growth and the future of our country.
You mean the Pelosi stimulus packages? Last time I checked, the executive branch doesn't pass legislature for spending.
You mean the Do nothing Dems. Glad they are hard at work fixing the border issue.
This bill have little to do with infrastructure. That's just pretty title Nancy put on it for PR purposes. I guess "Food for Orphans" was already taken.
Call the Treasury Department and get the printers warmed up....Joe and Nancy have a lot of votes to buy before 2022.
You mean the Do nothing Dems. Glad they are hard at work fixing the border issue.
Jan: Biden sent an immigration reform bill on his first day in office that was blocked by... republicans. No negotiation. Just a hard no.
Feb: Lyndsey Graham introduces a bi partisan immigration reform bill that gains some support.
Mar: Lyndsey Graham opposes his own bipartisan immigration bill (you cannot make this shit up).
You see, republicans reached the point when it became clear that it was going to be more politically beneficial to them to do nothing about the border and the much needed legal reform that needs to happen there. They are loving every minute of the "crisis" that we are seeing. It is not about what is best for our country, it is about what is best for them.
So no. I meant the do nothing republicans.
This bill have little to do with infrastructure.
There are two different bills. You are confusing the two.
Really. Seems the last administration tried to do a lot on immigration. Where were Nancy and her minions then? Who is the president now? Who is responsible for the security of our borders? Is that a Legislative Branch issue? Or an Executive branch issue?
Where's our border czar? Where's Kamala?
Actually, Biden has done a fair amount on the border. He reversed many of Trump's policies via EO, which led to the situation we have today.
Trump introduced legislation to reduce legal immigration. When it came to illegal immigration, he did very little to try and change any existing laws. Instead, he focused on two areas:
1. making the existing structure as inhospitable as possible for illegal immigrants to deter them from coming: this included reducing judges for asylum hearings, reducing housing for illegals, kids in cages and sending them to Mexico.
2. he used the above situation that he created along with covid to enact executive powers to deny asylum hearings to immigrants and send them back from where they came.
This was effective, although some could argue illegal. Interestingly, Biden's admin is using some of the same methods. They are scrambling to build new housing for asylum seekers, but at the same time they are refusing asylum hearings and sending people right back to where they came from (see the Haitians that were recently at our border). The only difference in the two admins is that people are coming here expecting Biden to be more lenient.
In my opinion Biden's failure here is that he has been inconsistent. He is trying to appease progressives and moderates in his party at the same time. It is unclear when he is going to invoke Trump's draconian policies and when he is not.
To answer your question, the executive branch cannot change laws, that is up to the legislative branch. They can make recommendations and utilize veto power, that is it.
Our current laws say that anyone coming here and seeking asylum should be given a hearing. We have a backlog that is up to 10 years for that. That is why the wall was so stupid. Someone could just touch the wall and request asylum. The laws need to change. Republicans are the ones who are blocking this from happening right now. They are ecstatic with what is happening. They can just sit back and spoon feed morons with "where's Kamala" talking points. As if her visiting the border every day would make a difference.
Without looking it up, remain in Mexico policy for one and he also raised the refugee cap.
remain in Mexico policy was contrary to our laws. Did it encourage more illegals? Yes. But since you bitched for 8 years about Obama using executive orders to get around laws, you should have the same thoughts when trump did it.
Refugee cap has nothing to with the southern border.
You have to get over this partisan crap and focus on common sense. It's such a problem with any discussion.
Which encourages more problems at the border?
1. Come to the border, apply for asylum, wait in Mexico while we evaluate your case.
2. Come to the border, apply for asylum, get free transportation to a lovely US destination while we evaluate your case. Choose whether on not to remain illegally or go home if denied. Basically, a bogus asylum application is a free ride into the US.
Biden's handling of the border is stupid. It doesn't matter what Obama did or didn't do. Our current president's polices are dumb, and the results are as expected.
I can agree with this. We have got to have some common sense bipartisan immigration reform. The radicals of both parties love using this as a talking point nt and it's created huge issues.
Biden has tried too hard to serve the far left on this topic. I thought that the wall was dumb, but staying in Mexico made sense.
Not being partisan. I agree that remain in mexico was effective (i said that above). I also think though that it was an executive order that went around an existing law. We need our lawmakers to get together and make concessions and pass laws. Not just have presidents passing and revoking executive orders every 4-8 years.
They do it because Congress is broken, partisanship rules the day and our representatives are peaces of shit. Not that it’s right, but it’s the only way to push policy
Another example - Tim Scott and police reform. He can’t get traction on a bill that the left philosophically supports because dems want that victory, not a black Republican.
On that issue dems and repubs were at the table for months. On immigration, repubs wont even come to the table.
Also, story broke today although Scott claimed dems wanted to "defund the police", apparently that was not true.
Two major police organizations recently spoke in support of the bill.
“The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) and the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) are disappointed that Senate negotiators could not reach agreement on police reform legislation, and we thank all those Members of Congress who partnered with us in this effort,” read the joint statement from IACP and FOP officials.
“Despite some media reports, at no point did any legislative draft propose ‘defunding the police,'” they assert. “It is our joint belief that the provisions under discussion would have strengthened the law enforcement profession and helped improve the state of community police engagement without compromising management and officers’ rights, authorities and legal protections.”
on this statement I agree 100%. Both sides suck, we need reform and term limits.
1. A dude crossing the Rio Grande isn't legal immigration. Legal immigration, in part, starts when the person is in their home country and applies to become a citizen of the United States from there.
2. "Asylum" is a BS excuse for South Americans to come across the border. Most of these people crossed 5-6 countries before hitting the US border. Why didn't they stop in Mexico and ask for asylum there? These aren't political refugees. Allowing that BS excuse is what floods the courts from hearing cases from legitimate folks seeking to legally immigrate to this country. So if they know they have to return south, that a good thing.
3. Biden created this issues by promising a pathway to citizenship for ILLEGAL immigrants. He opened the floodgates in his effort to pander for votes. Now we're left to pay the bill for this.
4. Barry and Joe's DACA policy once again was to pander for voters. It never had the backing of law. The courts have ruled that Barry overstepped his authorities and stopped this illegal policy.
Trump may have had kids in cages but Biden just leaves them sleeping under a bridge with the people trafficking them. Biden has created a humanitarian crisis and is doing nothing to solve it expect to try and disperse these people across the US so there's nothing for the media to see. Funny how many are being sent to AZ and FL. I wonder why they are being sent to those states. He'll ignore the problem because he doesn't have a solution. Nor will he do his primary responsibility as President which is to secure our borders.
Free, lol. It will cost 200 BILLION dollars and help maybe 5 million kids.
it's project to save some family up to $13,000 a year. But it will cost the taxpayers $40,000 per child! Yeah, that's a great investment. $13,000 of child care plus $27,000 of bureaucracy per child.
But hey, Joe says it won't cost one dollar. It's all paid for.
1. Asylum is international law and US law. It is legal to surrender yourself at the border.
2. Wow--all European immigrants--like every white person in the US has ancestry that decided to not go to another European country they easily could have and came to the US. Asylum is asylum--it is international law. Why don't we fund the courts and reform our broken legal immigration system to streamline these processes (oh wait--when Graham proposed doing a little bit of that it got shut down because Republicans show their true colors and actually just hate all immigrants...smh...and then have the audacity to call themselves a christian nation...lol).
3. He didn't open any floodgates or say anything that Bush jr didn't say or republicans used to say for decades. Remember the scary migrant caravans that happened under Trump (and then disappeared, along with the impending MS-13 doom...). These narratives haven't changed with Biden's rhetoric. This system is the same broken one that has existed for decades--nothing new to pay. With Trump it just became way more cruel--trying to not let anyone subject rape, torture, murder, etc etc flee and make a case for asylum. That was the real untold humanitarian crisis of Trump. If Trump and his xenophobes were in office during the time of the Staten Island immigration--those folks would have been demonized as horrible trash that needed to be discarded. Those folks made up the backbone of the country.
4. I know Daca kids (now adults). Pay taxes, serve in the military, good people. It is a shame that they have become a kind of political football because partisans can't just come together and have a sliver of humanity. Sad.
I haven't fact-checked these numbers, but in general, this is the exact problem with government programs. The issue may be real and the solution may sound good, but the federal government is horrible at execution and wildly inefficient.
We're better off keeping money in people's hands and letting them engage with private providers of these services.
While they are sometimes wildly inefficient, Medicare is actually run very well. Let's not use such a broad stoke.
Democratic disagreements imperil Biden agenda as shutdown looms
President Joe Biden's agenda was at risk of being derailed by divisions among his own Democrats, as moderates voiced anger on Wednesday at the idea of delaying a $1 trillion infrastructure bill ahead of a critical vote to avert a government shutdown.
Is it though? I work with managed care orgs and CMS is, something.
And we know the math on SS is abysmal. It’s so unfortunate what we’re doing to folks who can’t afford to save much beyond SS. Imagine, even low wage earners could save 12.5% of their income from 18-68 (50 years) and likely retire multi-millionaires with average investment returns. Generational change thwarted by horrific government inefficiency. Such a shame.
Pelosi's presser yesterday citing we had to keep Govt open and work to address the full Obama agenda of building back better. Freudian slip?
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Pelosi mistakes Obama for Biden while pushing president's agenda
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday misspoke, calling for the passage of President Barack Obama’s agenda rather than President Joe Biden’s.
Missed this post earlier. I think the biggest issue - and you probably agree - is that there's no actual plan of what to do with illegal immigrants. If you have a plan for the ones today, it gives you leverage on those crossing illegally in the future.
I think there should be some path to citizenship. Mine may be more restrictive than yours, but we need something.
Once we have that, you say, "Everyone who applies for citizenship by 10/1/2021 will be put in line and evaluated. Anyone found to have entered the country illegally after 10/1/2021 will receive a lifetime US citizenship ban."
Period. End of story. This risk of illegal entry shifts from "Whatevs, Uncle Joe will give me a plane ride, benies, a sanctuary city and maybe even citizenship" to lifetime denial of everything.
Low wage earners, a lot of whom can barely afford to survive, are somehow putting away 12.5%?
I think he was implying that the money automatically taken out for SS is roughly 12.5% of salary but I think the reality is if most had that money in checks, they would probably spend it not save it.
They already are. 6.2% is deducted from their paycheck and 6.2% from their employer. Imagine if that 12.4% was invested at even 6% ROR for 50 years.
Oh I just assumed you meant individually IRA 401k etc. Nobody under 50 is going to see a dime of SS
That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement for more government entitlement programs.
Certainly not at this rate, think they already indicated they are cutting payouts going forward due to shortfalls. What I think happens is they will increase the percentage they take to cover the short, but still end up in the same place by time our age demographic retires or increase the age where you can start collecting.
