Nope-not calling him a liar. I hope he was worried about his patients and not patents though. I asked him to explain the situation.
To my knowledge he has not answered, but he will be pleased that you carry his water.
I will be shocked if this season goes off as planned
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To my knowledge he has not answered, but he will be pleased that you carry his water.
I pose this question respectfully…
studies show Pfizer vaccine is only 46% effective against delta variant. Moderne was around 61% I believe. Vaccines only help with symptom severity, NOT contagiousness. Therefore it’s a coin flip and I will still infect others even if vaccinated.
why should I get one?
studies show Pfizer vaccine is only 46% effective against delta variant. Moderne was around 61% I believe. Vaccines only help with symptom severity, NOT contagiousness. Therefore it’s a coin flip and I will still infect others even if vaccinated.
why should I get one?
The "surge" is the jabbed.....the jab is the delta variant. If the PCR test can't distinguish between the FLU and COVID, then how the hell do they have a test for a variant of the same virus? Pay attention...use that brain!
What say I? I say great I'm happy for your family. Of course not everyone has tested positive, there are 330 million Americans. Many people haven't gotten it. Nothing in my post encouraged anybody to do anything. I just said I'd be surprised if the state doesn't make new restrictions. That's it. But this surge is different than the last one.
When we have strongly positive swabs, they are sent to MUSC for further analysis. Most all we have in our hospital are delta variants.
Hey man it’s my choice. I know what’s best for me regardless of what medical professionals say.
You could be wrong BUT I fully subscribe to the notion we should all decide for ourselves and respect the opinions of others. Problem is everybody wants to be right.
I'm trying to keep this civil, but you just try to dig. You think you are smarter than me because you went to school for a long time. In your case, probably a really long time.Look, I'm just having fun because the Dunning Kruger effect is in full force in this thread and it's cracking me up.
I knew the teenager thing would trigger you
I absolutely don't want to tell you how to live your life. My crusade is for responsibility, not control. So, if it were up to me, we would let people choose to not get vaccinated but then they would be deprioritized in terms of hospital access so that cancer patients and people needing care wouldn't suffer. Look how stupid the situation has become in hotspots, this guy was shot 6 times last week and can't have surgery because covid patients took up all the beds
Innocent passer-by shot 6 times waiting for surgery for a week
Then health insurance companies could also recoup additional cost from people that chose to take that risk and ended up in the ICU, etc. If you want to protect your freedom, well fine, but I don't want to pay higher premiums because of your decisions.
So, don't get vaccinated, I honestly don't care, but don't come ask me and society to cover for yourstupidity, sorry, choice, when you are at the hospital.
You missed the point of my question to the DR (to which he has not responded as of yet).
What about natural immunity? Some of you got the shot, and then the shot, and now you're gonna have to get another "booster" shot.
I've got TIGER BLOOD, which doesn't get infected. What next?
Damn, who knew Charlie Sheen was on TI? How’s the aids going?
I really don’t know how Fauci comes into this. I’m not saying I stand behind what OP was saying just because of his credentials. I am a paying member of a Clemson message board, and so is this guy. He’s reporting things from the front lines of this. He’s probably several degrees of separation closer to me (and the local conditions in South Carolina) than Fauci. He’s not a political figure like Fauci either.
So this has nothing to do with Fauci or credentials. He’s a fact witness who I would tend to give more credence to given the fact he has whatever psychopathic condition I have that makes me keep visiting this message board.
What do the medical professionals gain by sharing this info? There’s no agenda here. This is their livelihood.
We’re beyond right or wrong. It’s common sense at this point.
Sounds like your fatass is dodging bullets. Congrats on the impending diabetes and cardiovascular disease though.
Ok I see. I meant just to end the conversation. I usually don’t participate in these vaccine threads and got sucked in. Have a good one.
amazing to me that cancel culture wants zero to do with china. how are we not boycotting the hell out of that place?
What do you say about natural immunity?
I'm not a troll, and I'm trying to be as serious as I can about this. I was not trying to make light of anything you said before.
My point was, this virus has been politicized from the beginning. How does anyone know what to believe?
I'm not "anti-vax". I've been in the military for over 20 years. Who knows what kinda crap I've had injected into my body. I'm eventually going to have to get the shot. Our "leaders" have said as much.
All I'm saying is 2+2 doesn't equal 4 in this case. It just doesn't add up.
My apologies. I didn’t mean to come across as a dick towards you. I just feel for these medical prof. This shit is never ending. And they’re practically begging us to help them and our hospitals by getting vaccinated.
Apologies again.
My kids had a normal year last year at private school. This year is a hot mess so far.
Since you have stats, how about post the most important stat......BMI.
What percentage of vents are fats? What percentage of vax'd and unvax'd were fats? Media doesnt want to hurt anyone's feeling (unless you're a conservative) but that the real health "crisis" in the country.
I will stop digging, it was a bit immature of me, you are right to try and keep things civil.
I disagree with you on the schooling thing. Common sense doesn’t have a lot to do with school. It’s easy to acquire knowledge in school but it’s just theory. My father in law and brother have very little formal schooling ( worked in agriculture from young age) and yet have the most common sense of all the people I know. I use them as sounding board quite a bit.
People have biases and it prevents them from being truly reasonable. Which leads to people talking at each other. I’ve grown tired of it and been more vocal on the board to call out fundamental inconsistencies in reasoning But I know very well none of my posts will change anybody’s mind at this point, people are very entrenched.
Hopefully we get back to talking football with a win against UGA and focus on the one thing that unites us on this board.
Go Tigers!
No it's not common sense.
For every fact you give, there is another point/study that proves the opposite.
It does affect the younger crowd more. Instead of chance of dying being .00000001, it's up to .00000002. Dbl the rate as before.
But hey, let's go back to virtual. Nothing at all to be gained from socializing and in person learning.🙄
I have the stats that are emailed to me. I posted those. I’m happy to no longer share if the information I have is upsetting people.
It won’t. There’s tons of data now that shows the vaccine helps.
One of my best friends was a 64 year old veterinarian who constantly emailed me to not take the vaccine. I’m a dentist. Absolutely no way I could see my patients without doing so. He chose to take ivermectin and Vit D and Azithromycin instead. His unvaccinated son in law gave him and his wife the virus. He refused to go to the hospital for 5 days while bed ridden. By the time his family forced him in to a car. There was no ICU bed available in Charleston. Even though they thought it too late the doctors gave him plasma and antivirals. After two weeks on a Bipap he needed a feeding tube and vent. He made it 12 hours. He died alone among people that really didn’t like him But did their job. I miss him. I wish I would have been more forceful in my disagreements with him on taking the vaccine. His 50 year old wife recovered.
This time I have several in the hospital who were previously quite healthy. Now, they aren't extremely sick they just need oxygen hopefully for a few days. I've got one really sick 41 year old with no health problems but she is overweight.
Lol, well we played verbal judo and you won
I was calling for reasonable thinking while displaying unreasonable behavior (being an asshole with my digs). You were the bigger man and didn’t let our discussion degenerate. So, what can I say, tip of the hat to you More seriously, stay safe, whatever your decision ends up being.
Thank you sir. My job is to make sure there are warheads on foreheads of OUR enemies. That is my job! That's what I do.
I only wish our "politicians" took the same oath that I did...oh, wait, they did.
This is incredibly sad
Ding, ding ,ding. But instead, so that everyone feels good about themselves, we have models morbidly obese in the SI swimsuit issue. All that does is discourage healthy eating and exercise.
Instead of just "the south", why dont u look up (and then comment) on the vax rate for African Americans??
I get that, just find it incredibly telling that the most important stat for at risk is NEVER disclosed or discussed.
