If the Republicans lose the Senate:

[CUfan1971]

First every mismanaged state government gets bailed out on OUR dime

then they pack the SCOTUS (awful but not the end of the world)

then they add 4 senators (but do PR citizens want to pay federal income tax? They currently get most of the benefits of a state without paying fed tax)

then they push their radical agenda down our throats.

my only hope is there are enough moderate dems that don’t agree to the most radical ideals.

I’m literally worried for the kind of country my children grow up in. I fear for them. Being white middle class will be a detriment. They won’t be able to earn anything to overcome that.

i fear the empowerment the antifa types and such will feel now.

 

[ForzaTigre]

They are very, very highly unlikely to lose the senate. Other than the White House, this week was a good week for the GOP. Gained a bunch of house seats.

Calm down a little. It’s Saturday night. Have a drink.

 

[CUfan1971]

I don’t know how people can say that we don’t lose it by losing both runoffs in Georgia. I feel there will be some shenanigans there.

 

[ForzaTigre]

I don’t know how people can say that we don’t lose it by losing both runoffs in Georgia. I feel there will be some shenanigans there.

Yes, lose both runoffs and it’s 50/50. Again, that is very unlikely the GOP loses both.

 

[Jonada]

Clemson is playing a Top 5 game in primetime, and this is what's on your mind right now?

 

[CUfan1971]

Yes. Sports is nowhere near as important to me. But I am watching the game.

50-50 is still a loss of power

 

[wmnesbitt]

The best thing for America right now is for the Reps to have at least 51 in the senate and have Trump and Rudy sueing the crap out of everyone while Biden is our president. Hopefully getting the voting shenanigans under control. Then in 6 months when Kamala finally takes over watching the Dems and MSM mansplain and backtrack on what we all should have known was coming.

 

[CUfan1971]

I can see perdue only winning but honestly this is an all or nothing deal. I can’t see 1 winning and 1 losing.

 

[CU Alumnus]

First every mismanaged state government gets bailed out on OUR dime

then they pack the SCOTUS (awful but not the end of the world)

then they add 4 senators (but do PR citizens want to pay federal income tax? They currently get most of the benefits of a state without paying fed tax)

then they push their radical agenda down our throats.

my only hope is there are enough moderate dems that don’t agree to the most radical ideals.

I’m literally worried for the kind of country my children grow up in. I fear for them. Being white middle class will be a detriment. They won’t be able to earn anything to overcome that.

i fear the empowerment the antifa types and such will feel now.

How much of this have they tried to do when they had control of both the WH and both houses of congress, before? I remember when Clinton was elected, how bad it was gonna get. We survived.

I'm a conservative but can we please, please back off from the ledge a little bit here?

My bigger concern is the precedent that Trump has set with executive orders. Could bite us in the ass.

 

[CU Alumnus]

The best thing for America right now is for the Reps to have at least 51 in the senate and have Trump and Rudy sueing the crap out of everyone while Biden is our president. Hopefully getting the voting shenanigans under control. Then in 6 months when Kamala finally takes over watching the Dems and MSM mansplain and backtrack on what we all should have known was coming.

I worry that if Trump keeps pushing the "everyone cheated" narrative that it will hurt the Republicans in Georgia. You know the Dems are gonna pour assloads of money into GA.

 

[CUT93]

How much of this have they tried to do when they had control of both the WH and both houses of congress, before? I remember when Clinton was elected, how bad it was gonna get. We survived.

I'm a conservative but can we please, please back off from the ledge a little bit here?

My bigger concern is the precedent that Trump has set with executive orders. Could bite us in the ass.

Considering Republicans held congressional power almost through almost all of Clinton's tenure, I am not sure what your point is.

 

[CU Alumnus]

Considering Republicans held congressional power almost through almost all of Clinton's tenure, I am not sure what your point is.

When he was elected they didn't hold Congress, and we survived it.

I think it flipped back during his first term maybe (1994?). Not sure as it was a long time ago.

I still say the fact that Biden was nominated shows that the majority of Democrats are moderate and not on the fringes. He was the most moderate one up there and he won.

He actually kinda did a reverse Bill Clinton. Most of the candidates seemed in a race to the far left, while Biden hung out all by his lonesome (pretty much) in the center-left area.

 

[hopefultiger13]

There's a reason that Biden got nominated. He's a moderate. He's ALWAYS been a moderate. You can worry about climate change AND not shut the economy down. You can be hard on China AND not suck Russian Cock. There's a way to help out folks that don't have health insurance without killing off private insurance. Hell, there's a way to stop probably 95% of the abortions in this country and still not take away a woman's right to choose.

When you actually try for solutions instead of scoring ratings points against the other side of the aisle, a lot of good stuff can get done. We've got a guy that's square in the middle...

 

[CU Alumnus]

There's a reason that Biden got nominated. He's a moderate. He's ALWAYS been a moderate. You can worry about climate change AND not shut the economy down. You can be hard on China AND not suck Russian Cock. There's a way to help out folks that don't have health insurance without killing off private insurance. Hell, there's a way to stop probably 95% of the abortions in this country and still not take away a woman's right to choose.

When you actually try for solutions instead of scoring ratings points against the other side of the aisle, a lot of good stuff can get done. We've got a guy that's square in the middle...

Agreed though my concern is how will Biden stand up to the pressure from the radical elements of his party who are apparently gaining popularity.

 

[Jonada]

There's a reason that Biden got nominated. He's a moderate. He's ALWAYS been a moderate. You can worry about climate change AND not shut the economy down. You can be hard on China AND not suck Russian Cock. There's a way to help out folks that don't have health insurance without killing off private insurance. Hell, there's a way to stop probably 95% of the abortions in this country and still not take away a woman's right to choose.

When you actually try for solutions instead of scoring ratings points against the other side of the aisle, a lot of good stuff can get done. We've got a guy that's square in the middle...

This x1,000. The idea that people think Joe Biden wants to usher in socialism shows how truly detached from reality a lot of people are.

 

[Jonada]

Agreed though my concern is how will Biden stand up to the pressure from the radical elements of his party who are apparently gaining popularity.

The extreme ends of both parties are always the loudest and therefore get the most attention, but they don't represent even close to the majority.

 

[hopefultiger13]

This x1,000. The idea that people thing Joe Biden wants to usher in socialism shows how truly detached from reality a lot of people are.

Yep... And we need to realize that Socialism isn't like being pregnant (either you are or you aren't). I think we can agree that Trump is pretty anti socialism... AND that he has the means to pay for the best healthcare available. BUT when he got COVID, he went to a government controlled and run health facility and was treated by a team of government employed health professionals. That's a textbook example of socialism at work. And he went there b/c it was the best treatment available.

Now don't get me wrong... I don't care for socialism. IMHO a private company can do almost every job better than the government AND turn a profit. But there's a difference between almost and always. A private companies' first priority is to make a profit. That's as it should be. But when that's your priority, there should be some things that are handled elsewhere, where making a profit isn't the end all and be all. Education, healthcare, and prisons are places where it makes me nervous when the top goal is making a buck.

 

[FLaw47]

Now don't get me wrong... I don't care for socialism. IMHO a private company can do almost every job better than the government AND turn a profit. But there's a difference between almost and always. A private companies' first priority is to make a profit. That's as it should be. But when that's your priority, there should be some things that are handled elsewhere, where making a profit isn't the end all and be all. Education, healthcare, and prisons are places where it makes me nervous when the top goal is making a buck.

Hear, hear!

 

[CU Alumnus]

Yep... And we need to realize that Socialism isn't like being pregnant (either you are or you aren't). I think we can agree that Trump is pretty anti socialism... AND that he has the means to pay for the best healthcare available. BUT when he got COVID, he went to a government controlled and run health facility and was treated by a team of government employed health professionals. That's a textbook example of socialism at work. And he went there b/c it was the best treatment available.

I'm sorry, but this is a bullshit argument. At least the way I see it being spun by some of the Trump-haters (the ones who sit around all day miserable and blame every bad thing that has ever happened, on Trump).

Yes, Trump went to a government run healthcare facility - because that is a 'perk' of being President. I assume it was Walter Reed. They probably HAVE to take him to that facility per Secret Service rules. If he weren't President he probably would have used his own insurance to take him wherever he wanted.

There is plenty to roast Trump on without stooping to this level.

 

[FLaw47]

I'm sorry, but this is a bullshit argument. At least the way I see it being spun by some of the Trump-haters (the ones who sit around all day miserable and blame every bad thing that has ever happened, on Trump).

Yes, Trump went to a government run healthcare facility - because that is a 'perk' of being President. I assume it was Walter Reed. They probably HAVE to take him to that facility per Secret Service rules. If he weren't President he probably would have used his own insurance to take him wherever he wanted.

There is plenty to roast Trump on without stooping to this level.

I don't think this is a criticism of Trump (for once). I believe it's a counter-argument to "the government can't do anything right and is always worse at everything." If that were really true, the most important person in the world wouldn't have government administered healthcare. To be fair, it's not a perfect argument. Cost effectiveness isn't a super high priority for a President's health, after all. Some people go really hard on the argument that government can't do anything right, though. Like, it's the entire counter argument to some Democratic proposals and that's either lazy or misinformed.