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Plaid S is half the price for more car. a man of your means should look into it
you may actually be retardedHis wildfires have contributed more to climate change in the past 10 years than vehicles have in the past 20. Maybe the liberal governor should consider starting a controlled burn and logging practice out there.
Watching those guys create policies is like watching Dumb and Dumber. And watching California running down the road of no return is fascinating stuff. It will be studied in a 100 years.This is the hush, hush never talked about subject no liberal wants to discuss. I would love to see a long term impact study on the disposal of the millions of batteries this would result in.
WHAT???? You are saying a 4 week fire has contributed more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere than 20 years of autos. Show me your numbers please... or did you just make that up?
And your solution is to start more controlled fires?
I get the controlled burns to keep the amount of fuel available to a fire down. It's pretty well known and accepted that by putting fires out too quickly and not allowing them to "clean out" some of the undergrowth. So eventually a fire comes along and all that undergrowth is extra thick b/c it hasn't been thinned naturally by fire. So yeah, I get that this practice would cut down on the intensity of the fires. IE more small fires and fewer big ones.
But doesn't that just average out over time. Lets say over a 10 year period, you have a controlled burn every 3 years or so. OR you have a major fire every 9 or 10 years. Doesn't the same amount of stuff burn up? Seems like the amount of greenhouse gases would be the same over the same period... ie 3 smaller amounts or one big one.
Don’t misunderstand me; it’s not “a bad thing” overall. Mandating with a time frame without having a grasp of the negative cascading effects? That’s not a good thing. Tell me, for instance, how the low income folks will be buying those expensive electric cars? Subsidies? Tax Credits? The nuanced aspects of policy making is where most folks don’t have a clue.
I’m assuming this is sarcasm about the mandate, so if I’m wrong sorry.
I don’t understand how this is a bad thing? We might not all agree on global warming being a real and major issue but we all can agree that gasoline-fuel vehicles pollute and that pollution is bad. Why are new/cleaner forms of energy bad? I’m conservative and identify as Republican but the environment is something that impacts us all. Why would we all not want to decrease pollution by demanding innovation in the field of energy?
Most major auto manufactures have goals to be 100% electric within certain timeframe anyway and many are sooner than 15 years.
I stand corrected, he’s Nancy Pelosi’s nephew! I don’t know what’s worse, being related to Soros or Pelosi! Pick your poisonSoros isn't his uncle.
LMAO..... you believe every BS internet conspiracy there is. That's not true either.I stand corrected, he’s Nancy Pelosi’s nephew! I don’t know what’s worse, being related to Soros or Pelosi! Pick your poison
Exactly. The auto giants are pushing a lot of R&D dollars towards electric.
WHAT???? You are saying a 4 week fire has contributed more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere than 20 years of autos. Show me your numbers please... or did you just make that up?
And your solution is to start more controlled fires?
I get the controlled burns to keep the amount of fuel available to a fire down. It's pretty well known and accepted that by putting fires out too quickly and not allowing them to "clean out" some of the undergrowth. So eventually a fire comes along and all that undergrowth is extra thick b/c it hasn't been thinned naturally by fire. So yeah, I get that this practice would cut down on the intensity of the fires. IE more small fires and fewer big ones.
But doesn't that just average out over time. Lets say over a 10 year period, you have a controlled burn every 3 years or so. OR you have a major fire every 9 or 10 years. Doesn't the same amount of stuff burn up? Seems like the amount of greenhouse gases would be the same over the same period... ie 3 smaller amounts or one big one.
Don’t misunderstand me; it’s not “a bad thing” overall. Mandating with a time frame without having a grasp of the negative cascading effects? That’s not a good thing. Tell me, for instance, how the low income folks will be buying those expensive electric cars? Subsidies? Tax Credits? The nuanced aspects of policy making is where most folks don’t have a clue.
This is San Francisco now! By 2025 all of California will look like this.....not sure I see the need for cars!
Buy Tesla stock now lolNewsom calls for California ban on new gas-fueled cars by 2035
By Colby Bermel - Politico
09/23/2020 01:30 PM EDT
SACRAMENTO — Gov. Gavin Newsom is calling for California to ban new gasoline-fueled vehicles within 15 years in a bid to combat climate change and make the state the first in the nation to stop sales of internal combustion engines.
The Democratic governor announced Wednesday that he is directing the California Air Resources Board to establish regulations requiring that all new cars and passenger trucks sold in California in 2035 be zero-emission vehicles.
But Tesla stock now lol
By “his” wildfires I assume you’re talking about the ones happening on the land owned by the federal government?
What I’ve said on here is well documented & the things I’ve said will come to pass. If Biden is elected, the things I’ve said will come to pass sooner than later. If Trump is elected, it’ll buy us some time!LMAO..... you believe every BS internet conspiracy there is. That's not true either.
Social Posts Distort Facts on Political Relationships - FactCheck.org
Social media posts falsely claim that California Gov. Gavin Newsom is House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's nephew, and that Rep. Adam Schiff has a sister who is married to the son of George Soros. It also falsely states that a daughter of former Secretary of State John Kerry is married to a "mullah's...www.factcheck.org
By “his” wildfires I assume you’re talking about the ones happening on the land owned by the federal government?
their solution will be to do nothing and in 14 years and 30 days, they will say “Oh crap!”, and then everyone without a electric vehicle will be forced to take public transportation, whether it is feasible for them or not. Also ... I guarantee all “state” vehicles will be exempt from this mandate
No, I think he's talking about the wildfires started by the power companies thatgenerateuse powerlines to transmit the power used to make electric cars run.
When figuring out the environmental impact of electric cars (or A/C or cutting grass, or building houses) I think it's wise to include all that goes into producing the cars, powering the cars, disposing of the cars and so forth.
I also think it's worthwhile to consider the liberty offered to or taken from people who enjoy driving gasoline powered cars. Generally speaking most of us do not want to live in a world built or controlled seeking only the highest possible efficiency over all other virtues or one controlled almost exclusively by the votes of others.
Is this the same idiot that wanted to build a state rail system that went under?
I agree with this in theory, but the policies put into place in CA are only hindering the cause. They moved way too aggressively toward green power and are shutting down their nuclear plants, the number one power source for reducing greenhouse gases. Outcome? Rolling blackouts and enormous power bills. So now they want to move everyone to electric vehicles in 15 years? They need to rethink their policies on electric generation then.
Oh hell no. It didn't "go under". Are you talking about Jerry Brown's "Crazy Train"? No, that pipe dream is still being funded and housed in downtown L.A.
YES, this.His wildfires have contributed more to climate change in the past 10 years than vehicles have in the past 20. Maybe the liberal governor should consider starting a controlled burn and logging practice out there.
I’m assuming this is sarcasm about the mandate, so if I’m wrong sorry.
I don’t understand how this is a bad thing? We might not all agree on global warming being a real and major issue but we all can agree that gasoline-fuel vehicles pollute and that pollution is bad. Why are new/cleaner forms of energy bad? I’m conservative and identify as Republican but the environment is something that impacts us all. Why would we all not want to decrease pollution by demanding innovation in the field of energy?
Most major auto manufactures have goals to be 100% electric within certain timeframe anyway and many are sooner than 15 years.
What would the cost be without the tax breaks.Respectfully disagree. I’ve seen the data; cost is absolutely an issue...maybe not for upper middle class, but it is for working class folks out here.
Maybe that's Trump plan to get Mexico to build the wall, keep the Cali's out when the state completely crashesNope. The "solution" will be for government to provide a vehicle for those without, and that government provision comes from taxpayers. If only they were forced to rely on public transport. Although if it's inadequate, there's a damn good chance government would then "fix" that too with taxpayer funds. And at some point, Cali doesn't have enough money to fund the mess they created, so they run to the federal government with their hand out.
I'm ready for California to just become its own country.
Maybe that's Trump plan to get Mexico to build the wall, keep the Cali's out when the state completely crashes
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see all the normal people get fed up soon and Cali turn back red