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I'm not trying to be obtuse but when I go to that site I can't find any video nor any peer reviewed studies and its just an article whining about a private company enforcing its own policies and comparing it to big government over reach.
Can you actually link the content and not the whining?
in retrospect do you think dismantling the pandemic response team played into our delayed response to a pandemic?
in short ... I dont.
Just my thoughts ... I think it was going to be a shit-show regardless, because our response was a failure at the Federal, State, and Local levels. It was evident that we had no plan to respond, and a plan of that/this magnitude is not something that is lost in a year or two. Soooooooo it was a failure of teh Trump admin and virtually every administration previously.
Now ... if your question is "Should we have a Pandemic Response Team?" My answer is a emphatic yes. Their should be guidance, dare I say direction, from the Federal Government down to the States and then down to individual counties on developing a Pandemic Response. The Federal Government should pose to the States the question "What is your plan if XYZ happens?" The Federal Government should provide guidance and use cases/examples, and the States should develop their individual plans with input from County Commissioners, ALL within scope/under the umbrella of guidance from the Fed/CDC/etc.
A lot of folks know that Im in commercial aviation, and provide IT services to pretty much every airline and airport on the planet. Now, we have mostly moved our core systems to AWS, so a impact to one of our core data centers has be drastically mitigated; however, if we were to lose a core node we are still looking at significant flight delays and ground stoppage of flights globally. We have Disaster Recovery Plans for core nodes, regions, down to individual sites and we practice those plans (mostly in table top fashion) annually. The same should apply here. I fully understand that it is complex bordering on impossible, BUT that is why our "Leaders" are elected and paid. They arent elected to politic and pontificate about social bullshit agendas. It should be the duty of every American to ask/demand of their candidates at the Fed/State/Local "Ok, what is your pandemic plan?" If there is a State/Locality that has a gap based on the Fed guidance/use cases, those gaps need to be identified, and either the Fed offers to fill OR the State needs to develop a plan/schedule on how they are going to fill (i.e Gap Analysis)
With all that said ... messaging in a crisis is key. THAT was our next biggest failure. 1) We didnt have a plan 2) It was evident that we were developing a plan on the fly and all interested parties werent aligned and we arguing with each other in front of the media for the world to see. This led to confusion, frustration, and doubt. Otherwise led to a "void" in leadership, and that void was filled with ...... with the mess that we see ourselves in today.
edit: To further expand ... on a previous topic ... I dont believe that the majority of Federal agencies should be led by political appointees but rather multi-member boards much like National Labor Relations Board, Federal Trade Commission, Securities and Exchange Commission, Consumer Product Safety Commission, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Political Appointees by their very nature are ... political. These agencies should only answer to the Law, as outlined in the Constitution or laws that have gone through the Legislative branch.
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Oh ... I just assumed that "F* China" was assumed to be the standard ...."table steaks" if you will
"Best is the Standard" and "F* China!!!!!" shall live in infamy
Which part am I wrong in? Im open to being wrong .... I mean .... Its happened once or twice in my life
.... but what part?
Actually, this seems more like putting his mouth where his money is.
No one cares how many doctors got the vaccine. It’s a dumb statistic.
There are millions of doctors so that means several hundred thousand didn’t get it.
Plus, that number does not reflect how many were coerced into getting it.
I dont have links directly to the studies on the web, but Rand said its so. Here is some stuff.
Major peer-reviewed study finds masks don't work * WorldNetDaily * by Art Moore
The first large, randomized controlled trial of its kind showed no statistically significant difference in COVID-19 cases between people who wore masks and those who did not.
www.wnd.com
Compilation of info.
Do Masks Work?
“Seriously people—STOP BUYING MASKS!” So tweeted then–surgeon general Jerome Adams on February 29, 2020, adding, “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.” Two days later, Adams said, “Folks who don’t know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces...
t.co
LolI dont have links directly to the studies on the web, but Rand said its so. Here is some stuff.
Major peer-reviewed study finds masks don't work * WorldNetDaily * by Art Moore
The first large, randomized controlled trial of its kind showed no statistically significant difference in COVID-19 cases between people who wore masks and those who did not.
Compilation of info.
Do Masks Work?
“Seriously people—STOP BUYING MASKS!” So tweeted then–surgeon general Jerome Adams on February 29, 2020, adding, “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.” Two days later, Adams said, “Folks who don’t know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces...
A Danish newspaper reported the mask study had been completed three months ago, but it was rejected by leading three medical journals because the results are controversial
It's not that it's controversial. See this is hw fake news gets you. The study was rejected for being dog shit. It wasn't published in any journal and the peer reviews tore it apart. Science has worked and Rand Paul continues to prove to be a hack
Just some calm people talking to a medical expert who testified at a PTO event that kids will need to wear masks at school.
www.fox5ny.com
Anti-mask crowd hurls threats after Tennessee school board mandates masks
Video shows anti-mask protesters heckling a supporter of a Tennessee school board’s new temporary mask mandate.
"The science is settled"..Unless you're the cdc it changes tomorrow.
use bigger font next time. maybe next time that will make your dumb story factually correct.
No the science of COVID is NOT settled. No one has claimed it is. The CDC make the best decisions they can with the information they have. When new data comes in that indicates that you change your direction, the CDC changes their direction. That's the way science works.
Honestly, I'm HOPING you don't believe this. Surely, you know more about science than to actually think this is correct.
But if you don't ... One of the things that make farts smell is Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S... that's two hydrogen atoms and a Sulfur atom. That's 3 atoms... lot's of those 3 atoms in the air to make that rotten egg smell. Now ask yourself how many atoms do you suppose might be in a COVID virus? Millions and millions. So should we think that a mask that can't stop small molecules made up of 3 atoms MIGHT be able to stop a virus that's literally MILLIONS of times bigger?
You work at the CDC? You think the CDC is completely immune to partisan politics? They issued an eviction moratorium. WTF is that?
I do not, but my wife did for several years before she went back to school for her PhD. I never said CDC was free of politics,. BUT the CDC is filled with people who are experts in their field FIRST... who's JOB it is to control the spread of disease in the US... So I do believe them before I believe a bunch of politicians who are politicians FIRST and FOREMOST. I agree that the CDC should not be issuing any eviction moratoriums.
And let's face it.. The Republican party has been pretty anti science for a while, BUT the whole "don't trust the CDC thing' started when they made the mistake of disagreeing in public with the foremost expert on disease in the world... Donald Trump. After that... all of a sudden the CDC was giving bad data, overestimating COVID deaths, and had political agendas. We all know that Donald Trump is the ultimate authority to Republicans.
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Sorry we don’t have the right to watch a American Dr give his opinion if it differs from the “state”, or tech monopolies approved narrative. Euro media still sorta has freedom of press…. China is smiling.
Indiana Doctor Destroys CDC Covid Narrative at School Board Meeting
Dr Dan Stock explained to the school board that the recommendations from the CDC completely went against science. Dr Dan Stock addressed the Mt. Vernon School Board in Indiana on Friday, August 7th…
dailyexpose.co.uk
Again… *an AmericanSorry we don’t have the right to watch a American Dr give his opinion if it differs from the “state”, or tech monopolies approved narrative. Euro media still sorta has freedom of press…. China is smiling.
Indiana Doctor Destroys CDC Covid Narrative at School Board Meeting
Dr Dan Stock explained to the school board that the recommendations from the CDC completely went against science. Dr Dan Stock addressed the Mt. Vernon School Board in Indiana on Friday, August 7th…
I’m just trying to help out. Grammar and science don’t seem to be everyone’s strength.
