You are full of shit. Provide a link to the actual data that you quoted above.
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You are full of shit. Provide a link to the actual data that you quoted above.
If your mom had been a meth addict you'd have been in the hands of the state. You are lucky just like I am, and the fact that you have nothing to do but whine about taxes says a lot about you. You think you got where you are only by hard work. Well we all paid for that escalator you took to the top, never forget that. You can turn your back on everyone, say you are better than them and that they made 'bad choices', that is your right. But own the fact that you don't care about your fellow countrymen. Never pretend otherwise.
I make a lot of money, I pay a lot of taxes as well. We are paying off student loans, that were promised to be forgiven for public service (will never happen). Maybe we are the fools for cleaning up peoples mess, but when you see the hell some kids are being saved from it puts things in perspective.
Where did he say he was better than anyone guy. Everyone in this country has a chance to better themselves no matter the circumstances. Some choose to rise above and others choose to make excuses. You sound a lot like an excuse guy to me. Hard work and good decisions go a long way to preventing poor outcomes.
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Oh I see what you did there. You are using two separate sources of data to get the answer you were seeking from the beginning.
That’s pretty much what he stated from the get go. He said he was using the cdc and worldometer as his source.
Whatever makes you feel better dude. You are offended by numbers because why, it refutes your agenda?
I'm curious what your agenda is. You seem to think you are schooling us on something though it's not clear what that is. Are you trying to make a case for not getting vaccinated? If so, I'm not sure how your numbers make that case. Without fact checking your numbers and assuming they're correct, it still shows that the number of fully vaxxed that die from COVID is a tiny percentage of that group. And considering that almost 60% of the population is fully vaxxed, it's not outrageous that there could be a large number of deaths in that group, though still a small percentage of the overall. Plus, almost everyone in the most vulnerable categories are fully vaxxed so that has to be taken into account as well. So what's your point?
I am offended by you using two different sets of data and combining them to make your point. Back in my days in financial services if we did that it was called misleading the shareholders.
This is such a BS attitude. You are sitting here telling people that pay ~25% effective rates and 6 figures in taxes that they are turning their back on everyone and don't care about their fellow countrymen.
Just because people have a different vision about how assistance should be applied and distributed doesn't mean they don't care. And just because people who pay far more in taxes than you don't think they should pay even more doesn't mean they are turning their backs on anyone.
Maybe you wouldn’t be offended if you actually read the first post correctly.
I’m interested in the truth. Wherever that leads.
If the data led to proving the efficacy they are selling then so be it, I’d be more than happy about it.
However, thats not what the data is saying. Which is why those in control are making it as hard as ever to find it. The vilification of award winning brilliant Drs like Dr Peter McCullough has me questioning everything, along with the too many to list proven lies that have been forced fed to us by our supposed “trusted institutions”. I have a school age child also, they are positioning as we speak to force this on her. Thats my red line.
If the data led to proving the efficacy they are selling then so be it, I’d be more than happy about it.
However, thats not what the data is saying. Which is why those in control are making it as hard as ever to find it. The vilification of award winning brilliant Drs like Dr Peter McCullough has me questioning everything, along with the too many to list proven lies that have been forced fed to us by our supposed “trusted institutions”. I have a school age child also, they are positioning as we speak to force this on her. Thats my red line.
So you consider this doctor brilliant? You know he's been sued by his former employer for claiming he still worked for them? Just because you like what he says doesn't make him a great resource. Might want to read a little about him.
I am not surprised that you think it is ok to blend to different data sources to make a point. You are bush league.
No way am I stating people don't have a right to say how their taxes are spent. People have and should evoke that right. My issue is the disdain this guy has for the poor. He thinks they just made bad choices which is bullllllshit. Kids don't make bad choices.
You all should def look into how much money the police take out of your taxes. Ask yourself, have I been paying attention.
maybe you should, because your google search pulled up the exact bs I’m talking about
I don’t consider him brilliant his peers though have recognized him for decades.
The Covid internet police are trying to ruin good Drs who don’t repeat talking points, you don’t get that I see.
It’s also not surprising that you like to make false claims and have trouble with basic reading comprehension. I never said it was ok. What I did say is that he clearly stated that he got his data from two different sources in his op. You not understanding that after reading his op was a failure on your part. You then asked him to provide a link and the op did. After providing links to his data you move the goal post. Bush league indeed.
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That’s what “they” do and have been doing this entire pandemic. If you don’t tow the company line, you have to be discredited and ostracized. Facts and stats have to be ignored.
Again, what you provided are not "facts". This is the scariest thing about our country right now. You mouth breathing dipshits just throw together whatever stats you feel like or use one off anomalies to support your confirmation bias.
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The reality though is I never said anything like that. You have no idea how much money we (my family) contribute to charities, how much volunteering we do locally or even programs I've actually established through my companies to help contribute outside of tax dollars.......like encouraging 40 people to do habitat for humanity twice a year or the partnerships I've setup with urban focused non-profits in both the states and the UK to help give broken home teens access to mentoring and apprenticeships/internships in finance.
You took what you wanted to take from my post and made it something it wasn't and then when I gave you an example of an alternative story for how I made it out, you scoffed and said that I hate poor people. That's absurd.
Classy guy this nytigerfan. Im the “mouth breather” that doesn’t hide behind a handle and keyboard. Bet you don’t talk like that to peoples faces either. But I’m the problem with America? Look me up next time you are in Chas, we can have a nice debate.
Look sir, you said poor people, who accept social services need to do everything that a government employee does to become eligible.
Thats why I've been giving you crap, because its a dumb take. You can be offended by the words I've used if you like, but your take is trash.
Anyone that is taking money from the government should live to the same standards as the working class, which as the party that wants equitable outcomes I'd assume you'd support. That isn't me suggesting I hate anyone, it's just the right thing to do for those that do all the right things and don't accept government assistance.
In retrospect, you're actually insinuating that all "poor" people are drug addicts as your argument seems to center around substance abuse in several threads. Plenty of folks fall on hard times without ever touching drugs. I would have assumed someone as involved as yourself would be much more clued in.
And for the record, I never said poor people.....I said I was poor. You said poor people. I would never call anyone poor as it's disrespectful and very indicative of someone that's poorly educated.
Offended? You'd have to try a lot harder.
First sentence is hilariously wrong. Theres no point writing more things. People who cannot earn a living (working class) are that way mostly due to: Drug addiction, Mental disabilities, Physical disabilities. They cannot just achieve the standards of the working class, and thus cannot join them there, so you cannot make giving them the life's necessities reliant on them achieving those same standards.
I'm not talking about all poor people, I'm talking about the ones qualified for benefits. You probably have no clue how any of that works. Do you?
It's hard to offend someone who doesn't know what's being discussed.
But people that are disabled, people that have mental challenges and people that are addicted also hold jobs and participate in the American workforce and those people are now being forced or pressured into taking the vaccine. Why are they different than those that don’t hold jobs? If the vaccine is our only hope, then why isn’t the government forcing everyone to take it? Welfare recipients would be the lowest hanging fruit, yet no mandate.
And you used “poor people” ……again……to make your point.
This is kind of what I've been saying. I have no issue helping the mentally or physically disabled. Add in kids and single mothers. Help those addicted to drugs get clean.
Based on your statement, you would seem to agree that Americans not falling into one of those categories should find it exceedingly difficult to take money from their fellow countrymen. There's no excuse for them not meeting the standards of the working class and joining them as productive members of society.
This is the tragedy of you. It's very obvious you have a heart for others but the direction you take is just an illusion. You seem to believe in some collectivist government based societal reimbursement fund where you believe that people are being helped out of horrible situations by this wonderful and benevolent government. The issue is that doesn't exist on any level. I'm sure we can all come up with examples but the reality is far from it.
We spend an enormous amount of money on bureaucrats and structure and very little and actually helping people. I much prefer to go directly to the source and help people as Americans and not as the American government. That's what we're called to do. The only thing the government really helps is itself and it doesn't do that very well either. My family does a lot more to help people in difficult situations than any of the money I send to the government does. If everyone took that approach we would see a lot less problems and a lot less government which would be a great thing for everyone.
This is another illusion. It's not hard to figure out where people who've been reduced to ashes by additions and mental illness go. They go to the cities that are run by Democrats because there they are allowed to get a dole and keep rotting themselves away. They have failed miserably in every way to address these issues you claim to be important.
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Try reading this. It's from someone like you who just finally saw reality of what's going on. He's got some great ideas for how to clean up our cities and it doesn't involve electing Republicans because they are not much better.
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Ireland COVID-19 numbers Ireland has a 91% vaccination rate, one of the highest in the world.
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Ireland Has Massive New COVID Outbreak Despite 91% Vaccination Rate
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Ireland has a 91% vaccination rate, one of the highest in the world.
Ireland also is experiencing a major outbreak.
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Here is the latest timeline of new cases in Ireland.
This isn’t the fault of the unvaccinated.
I think this post starts to get to the heart of it for many of us. I don't necessarily think I'm less compassionate than those on the left. I just think our federal government is largely ineffective and wildly inefficient in their approach to many of these programs. And I also think that "helping" those who really should be helping themselves is a disservice to those people. While kind on the surface, it's actually cruel and often not done for the right reasons (securing votes).
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Ireland COVID-19 numbers Ireland has a 91% vaccination rate, one of the highest in the world.
Ireland Has Massive New COVID Outbreak Despite 91% Vaccination Rate
By Jim Hoft
Published October 28, 2021 at 5:07pm
Ireland COVID-19 numbers
Ireland has a 91% vaccination rate, one of the highest in the world.
Ireland also is experiencing a major outbreak.
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Here is the latest timeline of new cases in Ireland.
This isn’t the fault of the unvaccinated.
It said that Ireland remained top of the rankings for a second month running "even as cases rise" because it has fully vaccinated more than 90% of its adult population and weakened the link between infections and deaths.
Bloomberg said that Irish hospitalizations remained at roughly one-quarter of what they were in January despite a rise in cases and a gradual reopening of society."
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Ireland has been named as the best country for its handling of the coronavirus pandemic for the second month in a row, according to the Bloomberg Covid Resilience Rankings, which measures how the world's 53 biggest economies are handling the pandemic.
Putting lipstick on a pig."Ireland has been named as the best country for its handling of the coronavirus pandemic for the second month in a row, according to a Bloomberg index measuring how the pandemic is being handled in the world's 53 biggest economies
It said that Ireland remained top of the rankings for a second month running "even as cases rise" because it has fully vaccinated more than 90% of its adult population and weakened the link between infections and deaths.
Bloomberg said that Irish hospitalizations remained at roughly one-quarter of what they were in January despite a rise in cases and a gradual reopening of society."
Ireland ranked best in the world for handling of pandemic - again!
Ireland has been named as the best country for its handling of the coronavirus pandemic for the second month in a row, according to the Bloomberg Covid Resilience Rankings, which measures how the world's 53 biggest economies are handling the pandemic.www.irishcentral.com
Came here with this sad nugget w/o knowing what this thread is about.
Apologies.
Friend, 55, good health. Maybe excellent.
Got vacinated. 1st shot
Just over a week ago, after 2nd shot, 2nd day after that with blood clots, to ER.
Gave him the shot in stomach, blood thinner stuff, sent him home.
Next morning he died at home.
No.
I'm not vaccinated.
'Cause it ain't no vaccination.
Covid is real.
The rest..............is big money contrived.
Apologies.
Friend, 55, good health. Maybe excellent.
Got vacinated. 1st shot
Just over a week ago, after 2nd shot, 2nd day after that with blood clots, to ER.
Gave him the shot in stomach, blood thinner stuff, sent him home.
Next morning he died at home.
No.
I'm not vaccinated.
'Cause it ain't no vaccination.
Covid is real.
The rest..............is big money contrived.
Get in line for your boosters. Keep that covid passport updated or risk getting locked out with the deplorables.
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Has Bill Maher come a bit toward the center, or does it just seem that way because his party has gone so far left?
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Corporate fiefdom is in control of society right now. At least acknowledge that fact before you speak to what is going on.
People working in the government to help the most vulnerable are dealing with less funds, and less beds and less people to help them. The reasons are simple: We are making being a government worker an actual lower class job and second you are voting for and agreeing with fund cuts.
If you would look back in time you would find your parents smartly funded such programs, only since neo conservatism has such cuts taken place, at the cost of what? Bail outs I would suggest. Corporate bail outs, tax cuts for the 'job creators'. All while you bitch and whine about your poor lot in life.
Look, I don't begrudge people making their way through life. But you have no clue, none on the day to day you think you speak on. "it's actually cruel and often not done for the right reasons" ... Literally go in a corner and sit down. You are exposing yourself. The reason why things may be inefficient is the privatization and commodification of wellness of your fellow citizen. Trust me, there are people working within the system to insure the best things happen for the lost and forgotten children of this country. It's always fun to hear about the private corporations lobbying the state governments for dollars and fighting the social workers tooth and nail over every case to make sure they make top dollar on top of the child in need.
You aren't less compassionate? Well then you are ignorant and chose to not listen.
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