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It's Pride Week at Clemson University

The whole "pride" thing is so hypocritical.....how can you maintain that you were born a certain way (you had nothing to do with it) but also claim to be proud of it? I guess the only people who might should be proud are those who have rejected sexual immorality of all kinds....those people are probably too wise and humble to be proud of something like sexual behavior anyway.

Yikes.
 
Relax man, you think you're going to change someone's mind on a message board?

You've been dropping truth bombs itt but how do you think you're going to reverse 4+ years of university brainwashing?

I care less whether people's minds change than that they actually hear a reasonable argument. People stop listening when you insult them and go hyper-partisan, and I don't particularly care if they're already doing it.
 
"Sexual liberation" wasn't largely a phenomenon of the left? Radical feminism isn't a phenomenon of the left? "Perversion" is a loaded word, but even the idea of sexuality as a political identity is largely a thing of the left. Of course, there are plenty of "perverted" people of all stripes, but the right generally hasn't tried to normalize anything considered to be "perverted" or to make a "perversion" into a political identity.

Obviously, some people would obviously see this way of thinking as a positive for the left., and the idea that any behavior related to sex might be "perverted" as being archaic.

If you think any of these perversions are related to one party then I got nothing for you.

Plenty of people that were strongly against homosexuality on the right were found to be secretly gay. Just because one public denounces it tells you nothing about what they do with their private life. There's been more than enough examples of that. As long as it's a secret I don't know which side has more homosexuals or perversions as you call it. The left may he publicly more accepting from a platform standpoint but that's entirely different. I don't condone any alternate sexuality but I know Christ said to love. I have learned how to love them without condoning it. Each person has to figure that out for themselves. I have no right to condemn anyone. I'm not God. And I teach my kids what the Word says without exception but I also ask them what Jesus would do when dealing with others. Not everyone is a Christian if some didn't know that.
 
I have no problem with the event. How can you lament a nation's loss of freedoms and respect for the individual and at the same time complain about events that celebrate individuality. If you aren't gay, just do what Americans do with most other holidays that don't necessarily pertain to them, and make it about drinking.

That said,

LGBTQ-friendly, body-positive, and life-affirming themes

I need pics to fully understand what would even fall into this category. I picture a smiling cloud (not too fat, but not too skinny) giving a thumbs up.
 
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Sixth annual is hard to believe (rest assured, I do believe you). Graduated in '16 and had no idea these were happening, but also deleted most emails that weren't class related.

I became aware that the drag show was a thing last year after the spring game. A girl with blue hair walked in front of me and a friend as we were walking into Loose to ask if we were going to the drag show on campus, and proceeded to act like we kicked a puppy when we declined and walked into Loose.

This is one of my small points. This stuff has been going on and won't effect you unless you choose to let it. Stuff going on right under your nose and it didn't impact your college experience one bit. Didn't even know it was 6th annual. These people are in a small minority and it's not in our faces to the point where we can't also be who we are. I've never felt limited on campus or anywhere because of this. Hardly ever see it and if I do I just kind of laugh and keep it moving. They don't bother me and I don't bother them. I have yet to be transformed to gay because of gay events I'm not even aware of. Leave them alone. More problems come when we react negatively. Not everyone is a Christian like me. God gave us all the right to be free agents. Let Him deal with them while we work on our own sins that are equal believe it or not.
 
I care less whether people's minds change than that they actually hear a reasonable argument. People stop listening when you insult them and go hyper-partisan, and I don't particularly care if they're already doing it.

Wait, you think these people have lived 20+ years without hearing a reasonable argument?

Also, where's the insult? Are you trying to reach people insulted by obama hanging curtains with "a reasonable argument".

Good luck buddy.
 
So you think transgenders are just seeking attention or making it up? You don’t believe in gender dysphoria, which happens across multiple species, similar to homosexuality?
It’s not a matter of “belief”, you can “believe” whatever you want. Just because a man “believes” he is a woman doesn’t mean he is a woman. It means he is mental ill.

aaaand as stated in my original post, I don’t care what your opinion is on the matter. Men are Men and Women are Women, period.
 
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If you think any of these perversions are related to one party then I got nothing for you.

Plenty of people that were strongly against homosexuality on the right were found to be secretly gay. Just because one public denounces it tells you nothing about what they do with their private life. There's been more than enough examples of that. As long as it's a secret I don't know which side has more homosexuals or perversions as you call it. The left may he publicly more accepting from a platform standpoint but that's entirely different. I don't condone any alternate sexuality but I know Christ said to love. I have learned how to love them without condoning it. Each person has to figure that out for themselves. I have no right to condemn anyone. I'm not God. And I teach my kids what the Word says without exception but I also ask them what Jesus would do when dealing with others. Not everyone is a Christian if some didn't know that.

I don't think we're really disagreeing, but these stories of people being against homosexuality and having their own peccadilloes are notorious largely because they're cases of man bites dog, not because they're particularly numerous.

At any rate, I wasn't saying that any individual is better than any other individual, or that someone is more or less likely to be a perv based on their political philosophy. I was saying that what the other poster was calling "perversion" has, in fact, been turned into a politics of sexual liberation by the left. In some sense, then, I guess you could argue that the left is less sexually repressed, but on other hand, someone with a more restrictive sexual morality is going to see progressive sexual politics/the politics of sexual liberation as an "obsession with perversion." A major plank of left wing politics has been to obliterate the idea of "perversion" once two adults have consented, in part by turning what once might've been considered perverse into a political identity.

I just want to point out, again, that we're not talking about forcing anybody to agree with traditional or Christian morality anymore when we're talking about public schools having official "Pride Weeks" and the like. Instead, what we're now talking about is marginalization and privatization of traditional and Christian morality and public enshrinement of homosexual morality. Some probably think that's a good thing, but I see no reason why there can't be a liberal neutrality on issues like these.
 
I'm just going to leave this here:

Queer Coloring Break

Thursday, April 5 from 11:00am - 1:00pm in the Gantt Multicultural Center Student Lounge (Brackett 300)


Take a breather with a grown-up coloring session! We have a relaxing range of coloring sheets with LGBTQ-friendly, body-positive, and life-affirming themes to suit every taste and skill level. Colored pencils and sharpeners are provided, too -- just bring your creativity so you can have a lollipop, listen to some low-key music, and do some chill coloring. Got a class? No worries. At this drop-in session, you can come when you want and leave when you're done. Coordinated by the Department of English.

That is the gayest thing I've ever heard of
 
I don't think we're really disagreeing, but these stories of people being against homosexuality and having their own peccadilloes are notorious largely because they're cases of man bites dog, not because they're particularly numerous.

At any rate, I wasn't saying that any individual is better than any other individual, or that someone is more or less likely to be a perv based on their political philosophy. I was saying that what the other poster was calling "perversion" has, in fact, been turned into a politics of sexual liberation by the left. In some sense, then, I guess you could argue that the left is less sexually repressed, but on other hand, someone with a more restrictive sexual morality is going to see progressive sexual politics/the politics of sexual liberation as an "obsession with perversion." A major plank of left wing politics has been to obliterate the idea of "perversion" once two adults have consented, in part by turning what once might've been considered perverse into a political identity.

I just want to point out, again, that we're not talking about forcing anybody to agree with traditional or Christian morality anymore when we're talking about public schools having official "Pride Weeks" and the like. Instead, what we're now talking about is marginalization and privatization of traditional and Christian morality and public enshrinement of homosexual morality. Some probably think that's a good thing, but I see no reason why there can't be a liberal neutrality on issues like these.

I hear you and In don't totally disagree. I'm just saying kind of what you said. The right is just as perverse from a human standpoint. The left and the right have chosen platforms but it doesn't mean one is more genuine in their concerns than the other. The left could be pretending to be more sympathetic in order to secure their vote. There are probably conservatives who are sympathetic with the plight of some groups but the party says we don't accept that. I only responded to the person saying that the liberals were more perverse in some way. I thought that was laughable. Both sides are knee deep in perversion. We all fall short and sin is sin.
 
I just hope that if they are truly in favor of inclusiveness that they would not be offended if a bunch of current or former students showed up expressing their straightness and pride in that as well.

N---

You can express anything on campus, unless its white or Christian. Those two have no place in American institutions.
 
You can express anything on campus, unless its white or Christian. Those two have no place in American institutions.

99% of the stuff going on at Clemson is white and Christian. These gay folks are in the gross gross minority and your white sensibility is threatened. Smh. Lighten up. Your place is fine. They can't hurt you.
 
You can express anything on campus, unless its white or Christian. Those two have no place in American institutions.

What even is "white"? In my opinion, if you care about whatever cause you're into, you should be doing everything you can to disassociate it from racialism, "white" or otherwise.

BUT THIS IS A MAJOR DIGRESSION.
 
All kidding aside, is there really a drag show April 7 from 8-10pm at Tillman Hall?
 
Pat your simple-minded self on the back. Thanks to you and your friends, Trump won in a landslide.

The perversion I was talking about:


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Lol if you think I voted for Obama or Hillary. That's your own simple minded self getting in the way.
 
It’s not a matter of “belief”, you can “believe” whatever you want. Just because a man “believes” he is a woman doesn’t mean he is a woman. It means he is mental ill.

aaaand as stated in my original post, I don’t care what your opinion is on the matter. Men are Men and Women are Women, period.
Studies of “male” transgender brains are found to be significantly more chemically similar to a true females brain, and vice versa. But yeah, it’s all just mental illness. They just need to straighten up, no pun intended.

I’ll keep you in my thoughts
 
This thread makes me want to encourage dads out there.

If you have children please be present in their lives. Teach them how to respect and value people and their lives.

An absent father is killing our ability to love and respect each other. It’s killing our ability to know right from wrong.

Please step up and be present.
 
This thread makes me want to encourage dads out there.

If you have children please be present in their lives. Teach them how to respect and value people and their lives.

An absent father is killing our ability to love and respect each other. It’s killing our ability to know right from wrong.

Please step up and be present.
That’s what I did and neither of my kids are gay yet. It’s working!
 
Gays have made more progress in a decade than blacks have in 6 decades.
 
If you want to poke around in the same genders holes, more power to you. But this gender identity crap just blows my mind. And people want to know why our country is all jacked up.
 
LOL at the same dudes saying everyone else is being "triggered" being triggered by the people they say are "triggered" being triggered. Nobody mentioned being triggered until somebody brought it up to troll people who apparently were supposed to be talking about other people being triggered. It's all just so stupid.


Triggered.

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Last time I was "triggered" it was because they wouldn't take Zerrick Cooper out of the game.
 
If you want to poke around in the same genders holes, more power to you. But this gender identity crap just blows my mind. And people want to know why our country is all jacked up.


Amen. Sexuality choices dont bother me. Universities being led by the social "science" departments terrifies me.
 
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What is the difference between gay and queer? I thought they were the same thing.
 
Studies of “male” transgender brains are found to be significantly more chemically similar to a true females brain, and vice versa. But yeah, it’s all just mental illness. They just need to straighten up, no pun intended.

I’ll keep you in my thoughts

Sure I'll play kid ....

Sooooooo its a chemical imbalance in the brain ....soooo a mental illness, just like I said

OR

This is fantastic news! Schizophrenics, who have an imbalance of dopamine, glutamate and serotonin, will be relieved to know that they don't have a mental illness and just need to identify themselves as mentally healthy.
 
Sure I'll play kid ....

Sooooooo its a chemical imbalance in the brain ....soooo a mental illness, just like I said

OR

This is fantastic news! Schizophrenics, who have an imbalance of dopamine, glutamate and serotonin, will be relieved to know that they don't have a mental illness and just need to identify themselves as mentally healthy.
As long as it doesn’t cause significant distress or impairment (which are most commonly brought about by constant derogatory behavior from others) then it’s not a mental illness. Being transgender doesn’t make it harder to work and live as an independent adult. Being schizophrenic does, because it is an actual mental illness.
 
As long as it doesn’t cause significant distress or impairment (which are most commonly brought about by constant derogatory behavior from others) then it’s not a mental illness. Being transgender doesn’t make it harder to work and live as an independent adult. Being schizophrenic does, because it is an actual mental illness.

Interesting points.
 
This thread makes me want to encourage dads out there.

If you have children please be present in their lives. Teach them how to respect and value people and their lives.

An absent father is killing our ability to love and respect each other. It’s killing our ability to know right from wrong.

Please step up and be present.

what in the actual **** does this have to do with pride week?
 
As long as it doesn’t cause significant distress or impairment (which are most commonly brought about by constant derogatory behavior from others) then it’s not a mental illness. Being transgender doesn’t make it harder to work and live as an independent adult. Being schizophrenic does, because it is an actual mental illness.
^ feelings, beliefs, and opinions^

Would you class suicide as a "significant distress or impairment?"

based on which article/study you read(regardless its alarmingly high), 41% of Transgender people attempt suicide compared to just approx 5% of the general public. The suicide rate of Transgender individuals is still alarmingly high for those post OP. Please explain this?

If you assert that "bullying" is the reason for this gap, then please explain why the suicide rate for is not higher for non-trans yet still bullied individuals?

BUT before you explain please note that I dont care about your feelings, beliefs, or opinions on the matter. Your feelings on a subject do not outweigh simple biology.
 
^ feelings, beliefs, and opinions^

Would you class suicide as a "significant distress or impairment?"

based on which article/study you read(regardless its alarmingly high), 41% of Transgender people attempt suicide compared to just approx 5% of the general public. The suicide rate of Transgender individuals is still alarmingly high for those post OP. Please explain this?

If you assert that "bullying" is the reason for this gap, then please explain why the suicide rate for is not higher for non-trans yet still bullied individuals?

BUT before you explain please note that I dont care about your feelings, beliefs, or opinions on the matter. Your feelings on a subject do not outweigh simple biology.

You've done nothing but state opinions as well. I'd say that the bullying and general lack of societal acceptance is a reason and bullied individuals do kill themselves more often. 2 to 9 times as likely. I have a hard time believing you have any grasp of "simple biology" if you didn't realize that bullied individuals are more prone to suicide.
 
You've done nothing but state opinions as well. I'd say that the bullying and general lack of societal acceptance is a reason and bullied individuals do kill themselves more often. 2 to 9 times as likely. I have a hard time believing you have any grasp of "simple biology" if you didn't realize that bullied individuals are more prone to suicide.

Not really.... Ive been pretty clear .... Men are Men and Women are Women, that is a fact that isnt an opinion. Gender and Sex are not fluid and are not disassociated. That isnt an opinion. Just because you and others "believe" and have feelings about the matter doesnt make it a fact or true.

Absolutely not disputing that bullied people have a higher suicide rate than non- bullied (unsure how that is relevant, as I never said they didnt, nice strawman though). The suicide rate of Transgender people is exponentially higher than non-trans, even in a time is it is more socially accepted. To assert that the suicide rate of trans people is that much higher just because people are mean to them is lazy at best (<---- that was a opinion, see the difference?)

Your last sentence is just ridiculous ... but carry on
 
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