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Just spotted Roy Williams

It’s been 15 minutes and no responses so let’s turn this into a political thread. Name 3 differences between Roy and joe Biden .
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It’s been 15 minutes and no responses so let’s turn this into a political thread. Name 3 differences between Roy and joe Biden .

1) Roy doesn't have insufferable phagit supporters on this board.

2) Biden likes touching children more than touching a basketball.

3) Roy speaks coherently and doesn't need Depends.
 
We’re ok with what he said.
That’s pathetic then and shows blind sheep like lock step following. If you can’t tell that he has a history of major racial red flags both in his record and his comments and then he says that “you ain’t black” to a black guy and you are “ok with what he says,” then that’s on you buddy. Open your eyes man.
 
That’s pathetic then and shows blind sheep like lock step following. If you can’t tell that he has a history of major racial red flags both in his record and his comments and then he says that “you ain’t black” to a black guy and you are “ok with what he says,” then that’s on you buddy. Open your eyes man.

You open yours. Trump has no idea what he’s doing. I’m sure you disagree. I won’t even try to convince you otherwise and I’m ok that you have your own opinion.
 
You open yours. Trump has no idea what he’s doing. I’m sure you disagree. I won’t even try to convince you otherwise and I’m ok that you have your own opinion.

I guess good is in the eye of the beholder. Trump has been great for my business. I guess if I was in the business of staying home and getting a check I’d vote for Biden. Im not a Trump fan boy, but I cant for the life me understand how someone could think Joe Biden is the answer.
 
I guess good is in the eye of the beholder. Trump has been great for my business. I guess if I was in the business of staying home and getting a check I’d vote for Biden. Im not a Trump fan boy, but I cant for the life me understand how someone could think Joe Biden is the answer.

FWIW, you come off as a Trump fan boy often within these threads. So many of y'all do.

Just answer this hypothetical: It's 10 years or so in the future. For our purposes, let's imagine that the U.S. has fully returned to "normal" life as we knew it. But not totally as we once knew it, because the far-left movement has really picked-up steam and left us with President AOC.

She decides that it's finally time for America to be even more socialist. It's time for full government-run healthcare. You'd think she'd be able to get it passed fairly easily with both houses of Congress being Democrat, but it's a controversial issue, and she can't get what she wants. But no problem...there's a precedent that says she can declare a national emergency and redistribute funds that were already appropriated by Congress for other purposes.

She's also been investigated for some shady dealings. They may or may not be unlawful actions, but it doesn't matter. Her bodyguards in the Senate will protect her, even going so far as to brazenly and publicly flaunt that they have zero intention of acting as impartial jurors, which they will swear an oath to be.

She'll withdraw from any deal, pact, or treaty that doesn't align with her "progressive" vision for America. She'll champion the repeal of so many of these tax reforms that you value today. She'll work hard to remake America for the far-left and demand unquestioned loyalty in that pursuit.

She will publicly praise the world's socialist dictators. She will stand in front of the American people and tell lie after lie after lie after lie. She will use the popular social media platform of the day to engage in childish name-calling with those she doesn't like.


I think you see what I'm saying. If you are cool with your President doing all of this, that's fine. It's your right as an American.

But if you value the role of the POTUS...if you value our system of checks and balances as they were designed...if you expect more from a leader...then reevaluate your support for Trump. Because if anyone is cool with one party doing that, but will not support the same behavior by the other, then you are simply a partisan hypocrite.

I'm an independent who has always leaned conservative, and even donated to the Trump campaign in 2016. But I can be objective and realize that he is bad for America and - in my opinion - needs to go. Biden isn't the candidate I would choose, but this nonsense can't continue. Even if it means I take a financial hit personally. Some things are more important.

Remember: if you support this crap now, you had better embrace it when the shoe is on the other foot.
 
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I guess good is in the eye of the beholder. Trump has been great for my business. I guess if I was in the business of staying home and getting a check I’d vote for Biden. Im not a Trump fan boy, but I cant for the life me understand how someone could think Joe Biden is the answer.

It’s funny you say this, the tax cut for small business almost had me. However, the way he has decided to (funny since were in a Roy Williams thread) “just let em play” with the coronavirus, as well as the way his followers go around hating, have me feeling that this must end.
 
FWIW, you come off as a Trump fan boy often within these threads. So many of y'all do.

Just answer this hypothetical: It's 10 years or so in the future. For our purposes, let's imagine that the U.S. has fully returned to "normal" life as we knew it. But not totally as we once knew it, because the far-left movement has really picked-up steam and left us with President AOC.

She decides that it's finally time for America to be even more socialist. It's time for full government-run healthcare. You'd think she'd be able to get it passed fairly easily with both houses of Congress being Democrat, but it's a controversial issue, and she can't get what she wants. But no problem...there's a precedent that says she can declare a national emergency and redistribute funds that were already appropriated by Congress for other purposes.

She's also been investigated for some shady dealings. They may or may not be unlawful actions, but it doesn't matter. Her bodyguards in the Senate will protect her, even going so far as to brazenly and publicly flaunt that they have zero intention of acting as impartial jurors, which they will swear an oath to be.

She'll withdraw from any deal, pact, or treaty that doesn't align with her "progressive" vision for America. She'll champion the repeal of so many of these tax reforms that you value today. She'll work hard to remake America for the far-left and demand unquestioned loyalty in that pursuit.

She will publicly praise the world's socialist dictators. She will stand in front of the American people and tell lie after lie after lie after lie. She will use the popular social media platform of the day to engage in childish name-calling with those she doesn't like.


I think you see what I'm saying. If you are cool with your President doing all of this, that's fine. It's your right as an American.

But if you value the role of the POTUS...if you value our system of checks and balances as they were designed...if you expect more from a leader...then reevaluate your support for Trump. Because if anyone is cool with one party doing that, but will not support the same behavior by the other, then you are simply a partisan hypocrite.

I'm an independent who has always leaned conservative, and even donated to the Trump campaign in 2016. But I can be objective and realize that he is bad for America and - in my opinion - needs to go. Biden isn't the candidate I would choose, but this nonsense can't continue. Even if it means I take a financial hit personally. Some things are more important.

Remember: if you support this crap now, you had better embrace it when the shoe is on the other foot.

I see the point you’re trying to make. Do you believe the Dems will do all the right things? FWIW, I didn’t vote in 2016 because I thought it was an embarrassment that America’s top candidates were Hilary and Trump. I did vote in one of the primaries and my choice did not win. *Que the folks saying Im a part of the problem for not voting.

I’m not emotionally invested as some in this arena. Quite honestly, I just dont get it. I have friends who are on both sides, and it’s been interesting to see them take sides over the past 12 years. One side absolutely hated Obama, the other loved him. Now it’s reversed, and I simply ask them, how has that one person directly impacted your life for the worse? Maybe I’m a simpleton, but my life and the well being of my family hasn't changed all that much other than the fact the “Trump Economy” was better until this shutting down of the country.
 
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It’s funny you say this, the tax cut for small business almost had me. However, the way he has decided to (funny since were in a Roy Williams thread) “just let em play” with the coronavirus, as well as the way his followers go around hating, have me feeling that this must end.

What exactly about letting em play have you been disappointed with?

On the follower thing I would just be cautious of that because there are extremes on every side.
 
Do you believe the Dems will do all the right things?

Not at all. I'm no fan of the Democratic party, and I honestly can't believe that I'm having to support them during this moment in time. They have shown repeated ineptitude time and time again.

But if I have to pick between Biden and the potential scorched-Earth fallout from a lame duck Trump, I choose the lesser of the two evils. Just my opinion.
 
FWIW, you come off as a Trump fan boy often within these threads. So many of y'all do.

Just answer this hypothetical: It's 10 years or so in the future. For our purposes, let's imagine that the U.S. has fully returned to "normal" life as we knew it. But not totally as we once knew it, because the far-left movement has really picked-up steam and left us with President AOC.

She decides that it's finally time for America to be even more socialist. It's time for full government-run healthcare. You'd think she'd be able to get it passed fairly easily with both houses of Congress being Democrat, but it's a controversial issue, and she can't get what she wants. But no problem...there's a precedent that says she can declare a national emergency and redistribute funds that were already appropriated by Congress for other purposes.

She's also been investigated for some shady dealings. They may or may not be unlawful actions, but it doesn't matter. Her bodyguards in the Senate will protect her, even going so far as to brazenly and publicly flaunt that they have zero intention of acting as impartial jurors, which they will swear an oath to be.

She'll withdraw from any deal, pact, or treaty that doesn't align with her "progressive" vision for America. She'll champion the repeal of so many of these tax reforms that you value today. She'll work hard to remake America for the far-left and demand unquestioned loyalty in that pursuit.

She will publicly praise the world's socialist dictators. She will stand in front of the American people and tell lie after lie after lie after lie. She will use the popular social media platform of the day to engage in childish name-calling with those she doesn't like.


I think you see what I'm saying. If you are cool with your President doing all of this, that's fine. It's your right as an American.

But if you value the role of the POTUS...if you value our system of checks and balances as they were designed...if you expect more from a leader...then reevaluate your support for Trump. Because if anyone is cool with one party doing that, but will not support the same behavior by the other, then you are simply a partisan hypocrite.

I'm an independent who has always leaned conservative, and even donated to the Trump campaign in 2016. But I can be objective and realize that he is bad for America and - in my opinion - needs to go. Biden isn't the candidate I would choose, but this nonsense can't continue. Even if it means I take a financial hit personally. Some things are more important.

Remember: if you support this crap now, you had better embrace it when the shoe is on the other foot.
Personally I don’t like Trump. I think he’s immature and most likely not ethical. But given the choice of him, Hillary or Sleepy Joe, I’d take Trump all day long. At least he knows how to handle the business end if the job. Nobody could have got this pandemic right short of God. All these supposed experts changed their story about every other week. Maybe he should have mandated all the states, but with the situation in each being so different, I don’t see that being the answer. You speak of Trump being protected by Republicans in the Senate. What is your opinion on Pelosi and Co in the house? I believe you find their witch-hunt on Trump credible. What about Joe and his son’s dealing in Ukraine? I’m sure those were totally above board?
 
I said nothing about Trump. This was about Joe Biden telling a black guy “well then you ain’t black” and you blindly saying yeah “we’re ok with what he said.”

I can take context, I can read into what you’ve said despite your blind comments. Plus you line everyone who posts support for Trump. Listen man, don’t play these dumbass games.
 
Not at all. I'm no fan of the Democratic party, and I honestly can't believe that I'm having to support them during this moment in time. They have shown repeated ineptitude time and time again.

But if I have to pick between Biden and the potential scorched-Earth fallout from a lame duck Trump, I choose the lesser of the two evils. Just my opinion.

What do you think scorched earth fallout with Trump looks like?
 
What exactly about letting em play have you been disappointed with?

On the follower thing I would just be cautious of that because there are extremes on every side.

There’s not an organized plan to re-open with testing and treatment. He also ignored some early signs of disaster. His attitude towards this is if a state messes it up, it’s not my fault, I didn’t tell you what to do.

On followers, as a black dude, I’m especially concerned with a certain type. Now, if Bernie had been the nominee, then I may had to have bought a MAGA hat.
 
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Personally I don’t like Trump. I think he’s immature and most likely not ethical. But given the choice of him, Hillary or Sleepy Joe, I’d take Trump all day long. At least he knows how to handle the business end if the job. Nobody could have got this pandemic right short of God. All these supposed experts changed their story about every other week. Maybe he should have mandated all the states, but with the situation in each being so different, I don’t see that being the answer. You speak of Trump being protected by Republicans in the Senate. What is your opinion on Pelosi and Co in the house? I believe you find their witch-hunt on Trump credible. What about Joe and his son’s dealing in Ukraine? I’m sure those were totally above board?

A) See my post above for my feelings on the Democrats.

B) Never mentioned the pandemic response. Not the point of my post, and a topic for another thread (Lord knows there have been enough).

C) I believe that the only reason Hunter Biden was appointed to a board in Ukraine was because of whose son he was. I am against nepotism and cronyism here, just as I am against Trump's use of it.

D) I think any President is subject to investigation by Congress via the checks and balances that the founding fathers wrote into the Constitution.

Again, to be very clear, I simply see Biden as the lesser of two evils (but by a substantial margin).
 
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You have absolutely no clue what my thoughts are on Trump and you just had the classic reaction that many have when deadbeats like Biden say or do something atrocious. They immediately rationalize it by saying to themselves “it’s fine because Trump says crazy things.” The comment by Biden was not fine, it was atrocious.

I said nothing about Trump’s comments. You’re refusing to be honest and think you’re holier than thou. I’ve grown up in SC and have had to hear people blaring David Coe and others and no one says they are racist. You know why? Because we all know it when we see it if we are honest and not trying to perpetuate an agenda.
 
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That’s pathetic then and shows blind sheep like lock step following. If you can’t tell that he has a history of major racial red flags both in his record and his comments and then he says that “you ain’t black” to a black guy and you are “ok with what he says,” then that’s on you buddy. Open your eyes man.


C’mon Man! You know that thingy!
We’ve lost 87,000 jobs and Millions of lives to this cure is worse than the cure.
Let’s arm wrestle.....yeah that will prove I’m a man. I’m 40.
 
FWIW, you come off as a Trump fan boy often within these threads. So many of y'all do.

Just answer this hypothetical: It's 10 years or so in the future. For our purposes, let's imagine that the U.S. has fully returned to "normal" life as we knew it. But not totally as we once knew it, because the far-left movement has really picked-up steam and left us with President AOC.

She decides that it's finally time for America to be even more socialist. It's time for full government-run healthcare. You'd think she'd be able to get it passed fairly easily with both houses of Congress being Democrat, but it's a controversial issue, and she can't get what she wants. But no problem...there's a precedent that says she can declare a national emergency and redistribute funds that were already appropriated by Congress for other purposes.

She's also been investigated for some shady dealings. They may or may not be unlawful actions, but it doesn't matter. Her bodyguards in the Senate will protect her, even going so far as to brazenly and publicly flaunt that they have zero intention of acting as impartial jurors, which they will swear an oath to be.

She'll withdraw from any deal, pact, or treaty that doesn't align with her "progressive" vision for America. She'll champion the repeal of so many of these tax reforms that you value today. She'll work hard to remake America for the far-left and demand unquestioned loyalty in that pursuit.

She will publicly praise the world's socialist dictators. She will stand in front of the American people and tell lie after lie after lie after lie. She will use the popular social media platform of the day to engage in childish name-calling with those she doesn't like.


I think you see what I'm saying. If you are cool with your President doing all of this, that's fine. It's your right as an American.

But if you value the role of the POTUS...if you value our system of checks and balances as they were designed...if you expect more from a leader...then reevaluate your support for Trump. Because if anyone is cool with one party doing that, but will not support the same behavior by the other, then you are simply a partisan hypocrite.

I'm an independent who has always leaned conservative, and even donated to the Trump campaign in 2016. But I can be objective and realize that he is bad for America and - in my opinion - needs to go. Biden isn't the candidate I would choose, but this nonsense can't continue. Even if it means I take a financial hit personally. Some things are more important.

Remember: if you support this crap now, you had better embrace it when the shoe is on the other foot.
Great post!
 
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What do you think scorched earth fallout with Trump looks like?

With no future chance of re-election, I fear setting even greater precedent that the POTUS can essentially function as a king. I do not like that, as you can tell.

I also value the traditional role of America as the world leader. That doesn't mean we have to do as much as we once did. We don't need to be the world police. But I fear that increasing nationalism globally is a bad trend, and that's a core pillar of Trump's policy.

Four more years mean that all of these things, along with his blatant lies and attacks on the rule of law and government, become more normalized. I understand that is part of his appeal for many Americans. But it's not for me.
 
FWIW, I didn’t vote in 2016 because I thought it was an embarrassment that America’s top candidates were Hilary and Trump.

I'd be remiss if I didn't acknowledge this statement. You are preaching to the choir. I voted for (ugh) Gary Johnson in 2016. Why? Because the top two choices were historically awful, and because Johnson ran alongside Bill Weld, a true Reagan Republican who I support.

The ultimate tragedy is that we always have to choose between terrible candidates. The proverbial douche and turd sandwich, if you are a South Park fan.

And here we are - yet again - with nothing but bad options. Two elderly, white men with questionable character, pasts, and mental abilities. We need a third party option BADLY.
 
How am I refusing to be honest? By saying that black people should be offended by Joe Biden saying “you ain’t black” to a black guy?

So...you're saying that a group of people - of which you are not a member - should be offended by someone's words. Pretty sure that behavior gets you called a liberal snowflake most times on here.
 
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