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Right back at you. ICUs filled with the unvaccinated while vaxxed family members can’t get in for non Covid treatment. You don’t want to get vaxxed? Cool. When you get really sick stay home. Deal?
I stayed home the first time I got it, so 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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I’m a physician, I’m vaccinated, my family is vaccinated and I think it is safe and effective at preventing severe cases and death.

However the media’s, CDC’s and many politicians tactics of shame and blame instead of education and transparency is definitely a reason for the vaccine numbers being where the are. We aren’t far removed from having prominent folks saying that the vaccine prevents Covid and if you’ve been vaccinated then you can’t spread Covid and don’t have to wear a mask. Instead of now saying “hey, we missed the mark there but currently it’s very evident that those who have been vaccinated are not having severe cases requiring hospitalization and are not contributing to others having their elective surgeries delayed. All we see is threats of forced vaccination and loss of privileges. I continue to hear the saying “the science is evolving” but it’s rarely followed up with a layman explanation as to how it’s evolving. The messaging campaign regarding the virus has been horrendous and I’m afraid it’s too late to correct it as the shame and blame game gets worse day by day
Exactly. The people are discussing and reporting on "the science" like it is a horse race. "Science" doesn't meet a 6pm news deadline. Science is slow and deliberate, tested, rejected, reworked and published and accepted.

I have a MPH and this is NOT the way public health was designed to operate.
 
That number is not accurate at all. It’s not near 90% 45 of 329 …..that’s today. A lot of vaccinated people are sick and the numbers being reports are not true.
Are you saying that 87% of the patients with COVID in Prisma facilities are fully vaccinated? That is really inconsistent with what other hospitals are reporting (and what people I know and trust are observing).
 
Isn’t that what all vaccines do? Or am I stupid. Or both

Most of them do. Just depends on the Disease/Pathogen and Vaccine. One of the more frustrating things for me sometimes is that few people (the media plays into this) look at Vaccines/Disease/Pathogen individually. They are each very different. The mRNA Vaccine is completely new (applied) technology.

But, for example, Chicken Pox is not Pertussis (Whooping Cough). Extremely different Diseases/Pathogens and extremely different Vaccines. Chicken Pox Vaccine (bc it’s a live virus) confers more long term immunity that actually “stops the spread” (after it sheds) w greater probability whereas Pertussis (found in TDap or DTaP) is a Toxoid that prevents severe (and most, if not all) symptoms due to the Toxin produced by Pertussis.

Both


I think

See above.

I’m a physician, I’m vaccinated, my family is vaccinated and I think it is safe and effective at preventing severe cases and death.

However the media’s, CDC’s and many politicians tactics of shame and blame instead of education and transparency is definitely a reason for the vaccine numbers being where the are. We aren’t far removed from having prominent folks saying that the vaccine prevents Covid and if you’ve been vaccinated then you can’t spread Covid and don’t have to wear a mask. Instead of now saying “hey, we missed the mark there but currently it’s very evident that those who have been vaccinated are not having severe cases requiring hospitalization and are not contributing to others having their elective surgeries delayed. All we see is threats of forced vaccination and loss of privileges. I continue to hear the saying “the science is evolving” but it’s rarely followed up with a layman explanation as to how it’s evolving. The messaging campaign regarding the virus has been horrendous and I’m afraid it’s too late to correct it as the shame and blame game gets worse day by day
AMEN!!!
 
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I’m vaccinated but I don’t get this argument anymore. It’s being proven before our eyes that vaccinated people still spread this disease. So I don’t understand why you would get vaccinated at this point unless you want to *maybe* lessen your symptoms. Either way it’s still spreading around.
Because it is has been proven to “lessen” the virus. It has saved two people’s life’s that I know. You are much less likely to spread it if vaccinated.

Also, MRNA is not new for those who say it is. That has been in the works for years.

ER doctor that we are good friends with (I know, everyone has a friend) said the overwhelming majority of patients there have not be vaccinated. Another commonality, the vast majority of the unvaccinated hospitalized folks are fat. Most very fat.


With that said: I get all of the frustration. This sucks. I am sending my kids back with masks (before Charleston County enforced a mask mandate) because I do know that it will help with slowing the spread; therefore, my kids can go to school.

Everybody stop being dicks. BOTH SIDES!
 
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Are you saying that 87% of the patients with COVID in Prisma facilities are fully vaccinated? That is really inconsistent with what other hospitals are reporting (and what people I know and trust are observing).

45 people at prisma of 329 are vaccinated. Not 95-97% that’s been reported over and over. There are plenty of very sick people that are vaccinated.
 
45 people at prisma of 329 are vaccinated. Not 95-97% that’s been reported over and over. There are plenty of very sick people that are vaccinated.
That is 14 percent, correct? In line with recent dhec reports
 
So 3 weeks huh....convinient that is right before the 1st home game.


If the UGA game was at home, bet you dollars to doughnuts it would have been madatory masks on campus for 2 weeks.
 
I stayed home the first time I got it, so 🤷🏻‍♂️
Good for you. Tell your antivax friends to do the same when they get covid. Hospitals won’t be @ capacity. And before you call bs know I’m typing this from an ER. waiting for a room.
 
Thanks for the link. I will check it out. I do understand that the point of most vaccines is to mostly mitigate effects rather than stop spreading/infection.

With that said in May they said the opposite of this vaccine, they said vaccinated people couldn’t spread it therefore we took our masks off. Well that became wrong when Delta was introduced. There’s always going to be another variant. So I don’t understand the bashing of the unvaccinated if it’s still existing and spreading because of vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Even if everyone is vaccinated we will all still spread it and it will still mutate over time, no? To get everyone vaccinated at one time for the correct variant is fantasy land as even the lamda, delta, and epsilon variant have existed for well over a year now. You can’t react with vaccines enough to how the virus is mutating. I could be wrong as I will be the first to admit I’m not an expert but I’m just using common logic. Isn’t this is why the flu vaccine is like 50% effective every year.

Another good article to read about how we may have to live with Covid-19 and it’s variants for the future and what do do about it. Essentially says that it may follow the path of other Coronaviruses like the common cold that once you get it, each time to are reinfected the symptoms are milder. To get to that point we need everyone to have either been infected or vaccinated - obviously vaccinated being preferable

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/how-we-live-coronavirus-forever/619783/
 
Good for you. Tell your antivax friends to do the same when they get covid. Hospitals won’t be @ capacity. And before you call bs know I’m typing this from an ER. waiting for a room.
Did you get vaccinated?
 
Are you saying that 87% of the patients with COVID in Prisma facilities are fully vaccinated? That is really inconsistent with what other hospitals are reporting (and what people I know and trust are observing).
 
I am basing my statements off what’s been reported in the media. 15% is not the number being reported by most. I am unaware of the latest DHEC numbers but I know personally that this isn’t some non-vaccinated issue. There are plenty of very sick people that have has the vaccine.
 
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That number is not accurate at all. It’s not near 90% 45 of 329 …..that’s today. A lot of vaccinated people are sick and the numbers being reports are not true.
My numbers were as of August 12th. Also, with the numbers you listed, isn’t that like 87%? It seems extreme to say my numbers are “not accurate at all” and “not near.”
 
Good for you. Tell your antivax friends to do the same when they get covid. Hospitals won’t be @ capacity. And before you call bs know I’m typing this from an ER. waiting for a room.
All my friends are in really good shape, at peace with their maker and not afraid of something they can’t do 1 thing to prevent. Do yourself a favor and double up on the booster shot.
 
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I’m vaccinated and healthy. The family member I’m here with is vaccinated and dealing with non Covid health problems. Can’t get a room. You dig?
I dig . Best to you and yours and hope everything turns out good.
 
So if the vaccinated don’t get sick, but can still get and spread the virus it seems we have just created a massive number of asymptomatic super spreaders that will mostly not know they have the virus but spread it to everyone else.

Probably why England has a vaccination rate of 79% and a higher cases per 100k than America who sits a shade over 50%. That stat makes absolutely zero sense.

Also @johnhugh is a massive doosh that should start summering in Afghanistan.
 
It is fascinating to see MOST of the blame aimed at and tied to Trump supporters and republicans when the overwhelmingly least vaccinated group in the country typically votes 90% democrat.
 
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I’m vaccinated but I don’t get this argument anymore. It’s being proven before our eyes that vaccinated people still spread this disease. So I don’t understand why you would get vaccinated at this point unless you want to *maybe* lessen your symptoms. Either way it’s still spreading around.V

I’m vaccinated but I don’t get this argument anymore. It’s being proven before our eyes that vaccinated people still spread this disease. So I don’t understand why you would get vaccinated at this point unless you want to *maybe* lessen your symptoms. Either way it’s still spreading around.
it is all about serious illness, hospitalization, ICU, and death. That is what the vaccine lowers dramatically. It is not 100 percent immunity. You need to listen to public health officials, and not the antivaxxer echo chamber circle jerk.
 
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Then that will be my decision and I'll be ok if I do. Do you understand now? I assume you got the vaccine and it doesn't bother me at all. You can get the booster shot for the China Virus and that will be ok with me also. Big Brother needs to go back being the red headed step child and the let us decide what's best for each individual. Put the American citizen first here and aboard. Stop the spending of money we don't have. I could go on but I hope you get my points!
Why would you rather have the China Virus in you than an American Vaccine designed to eradicate the China Virus ? Do you chase your tail all day and smell your own farts ?
 
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Yeah, and all those inconsiderate assholes who refuse to wear n95 masks all the time when they could ensure the virus is not spread any further. Right? Get off your high horse until you are doing everything you can to stop the spread of the virus. There are numerous things vaccinated people can do to further stop the spread of the virus that they are not doing. Stop going out to eat, having large gatherings, wearing gloves in public, traveling, etc. When you are doing everything you can to stop the spread, maybe others will listen to your bitching about what they are not doing.
I didnt understand a word you just said.
 
I didnt understand a word you just said.
My point is Hugh and many other people complaining about what others are not doing(getting the vaccine) to stop the spread/infection/hospital over crowding could be doing much more than they are doing. There are many things people could be doing to reduce risk that they are not doing while they are complaining about what other people are not doing.
 
I think this is a fair point. But also a slightly separate issue. I haven’t looked or seen the data on hospitals and if they are overrunning again or not but there you’re point would be valid.

But in terms of spreading the disease and overall case count the vaccine apparently does nothing. Which I understand is the point of a vaccine but poeple (post above) are constantly bashing unvaccinated for the continuous existence and spread of the virus when quite literally it exists whether you’re vaccinated or not.
the unvaccinated are to blame for the stress on our medical system and economy at this point from covid, The vaccinated are seldom in the hospital or seriously ill.
 
My point is Hugh and many other people complaining about what others are not doing(getting the vaccine) to stop the spread/infection/hospital over crowding could be doing much more than they are doing. There are many things people could be doing to reduce risk that they are not doing while they are complaining about what other people are not doing.
Vaccination protects me , and it would protect the unvaxxed, but now i am supposed to make all these efforts to protect them. Hell, why dont we just have another lockdown ? We gotta save the unvaxxed ! So lets shut down , cancel the season, and get those stimulus checks rolling again.....lol ... face it, man, you guys dont have a point
 
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