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Medical Advice (if needed): COVID

Pretty sure you are being a bit sensational. Do you know how long ivermectin has been used in people? Do you know how long fenbendazole has been used safely in people?

and I’m not surprised people have taken aquarium chemicals, thousands of people go to the er and the morgue every single day from snorting all kinds of stuff , injecting all kinds of chemicals in their veins, smoking all kinds of stuff just to get a buzz. So am I surprised someone took aquarium chemicals?

So- tell me this. How long has ivermectin been used in people. How much data is on it?

how long have people been taking the vax and how much data is on it?

not saying the vax is bad, I hope it isn’t. But there is a lot more information about ivermectin than there is about the vax. Educate yourself about what you are talking about
I know zero about ivermectin, Hell, I hope it is a miracle drug. I know that people are sheep though that will believe anything their politician or media tells them and that makes them super stupid.

This goes for the right and the left. But this goes double for the people that put their lives in their own hands to take animal medicine because some idiot on TV said it was a good idea.

darwinism at its finest

 
I’m not trying to convince you. I don’t think that I will. But I did my due diligence and spoke with a number of doctors directly (all conservative if that even matters..I know it does to some) and no one had any hesitation whatsoever.

I can easily find some information online, but who knows what their agenda is.

I am just curious if you know any doctors personally who side with you in this.

I think you are proving my point to be honest, and I hope those on the fence take notice.
Regarding doctors that will side with me...unfortunately, we will never know a true answer to this question because of the close minded censorship Nazi's that cancel anyone with differing opinions. Real science and critical thinking are the victims here. The one's pushing this vaccine are today's flat-earthers. No matter the quantity and quality of data showing more effective and cheaper alternatives, it is summarily dismissed as the establishment looks to line their pockets. That is reality...
 
I know zero about ivermectin, Hell, I hope it is a miracle drug. I know that people are sheep though that will believe anything their politician or media tells them and that makes them super stupid.

This goes for the right and the left. But this goes double for the people that put their lives in their own hands to take animal medicine because some idiot on TV said it was a good idea.

darwinism at its finest
Ok. And ivermectin is probably less toxic than Tylenol. But you expect everyone to shoot an mRNA into their body that isn’t approved yet?

just think about what you are saying. Again. I’m waiting on my 2nd shot. I have a heck of a lot more reserve about taking that than I would a couple of doses of ivermectin
 
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Question for those who took any vaccine that isn’t Pfizer:

the FDA is expected to put their stamp on the Pfizer vaccine (due to crazy government pushing) on Monday. Under normal rules that means all other vaccines approved under emergency authorization will no longer be valid or administered.

So here’s my question-will you go get the Pfizer now since it’s the one that the fda says is legit?

I also expect them to change the rules again, like they did so they could even call these vaccines!
Didn’t realize that would be the case, but sure I’ll take the Pfizer shot. I had Moderna for the first two. My guess is they will change the rules and allow the other vaccines to be available.
 
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Ok. And ivermectin is probably less toxic than Tylenol. But you expect everyone to shoot an mRNA into their body that isn’t approved yet?

just think about what you are saying. Again. I’m waiting on my 2nd shot. I have a heck of a lot more reserve about taking that than I would a couple of doses of ivermectin
Correct. Ivermectin is also on the Worlds Essential Medicine list for humans. People are ignorant and act like it is new and used exclusively for farm animals. Doctor’s prescribe it to humans worldwide.
 
TI Family, as some of you know I've been living in North Africa for the last 3.5 years. Just returned 3 weeks ago to the states for a season of furlough. Have been really taken back by the amount of division concerning the COVID vaccine. I think what's hard about something like this is the varying degrees of information and opinions going along with the fact that these opinions seem to change as well. This is something seasoned medical personnel have to deal as part of our job. Knowing where to find good data and research and being able to interrpet it requires you working in the field and being taught how to do that.

With that in mind, I didn't want to create another threat arguing about vaccines but I wanted to offer my services to anyone who truly has questions or concerns about the vaccine. Please feel free to PM me and I'll work to respond as soon as I'm able. Just stick to vaccines. The mask and closure thing has obviously been really effected by politics and I that will be really specific to your region, most likely. Yet, the vaccine data is super extensive and there is some really good data if you know where to look; unfortunately not the news. It's really been tearing me up emotionally to return to America and see how many people are in the ICU and dying from something that could have been prevented.

If you have a trusted doc/med personnel in your life, please consult them yet I know that's often not the case for many especially men. Please feel free to shoot me a message. I feel like this website and the message board has made me feel at home so many times when I've been so far away that I want to give back. I know that seems silly but being able to talk football and sports brings a lot of relief to culture stress when you're away. Take care and God bless.

FYI on me (don't trust a stranger right): Family Med doc who trained in a full spectrum residency in Memphis, TN. Med school at MUSC. Prior to that did the pre-pharmacy program at Clemson with a year of pharmacy school at MUSC. Have a masters in Biomedical Studies where I did immunology research as part of a grant for NASA.

Mods feel free to move this thread if needed.
Bloomberg’s latest take.

 
TI Family, as some of you know I've been living in North Africa for the last 3.5 years. Just returned 3 weeks ago to the states for a season of furlough. Have been really taken back by the amount of division concerning the COVID vaccine. I think what's hard about something like this is the varying degrees of information and opinions going along with the fact that these opinions seem to change as well. This is something seasoned medical personnel have to deal as part of our job. Knowing where to find good data and research and being able to interrpet it requires you working in the field and being taught how to do that.

With that in mind, I didn't want to create another threat arguing about vaccines but I wanted to offer my services to anyone who truly has questions or concerns about the vaccine. Please feel free to PM me and I'll work to respond as soon as I'm able. Just stick to vaccines. The mask and closure thing has obviously been really effected by politics and I that will be really specific to your region, most likely. Yet, the vaccine data is super extensive and there is some really good data if you know where to look; unfortunately not the news. It's really been tearing me up emotionally to return to America and see how many people are in the ICU and dying from something that could have been prevented.

If you have a trusted doc/med personnel in your life, please consult them yet I know that's often not the case for many especially men. Please feel free to shoot me a message. I feel like this website and the message board has made me feel at home so many times when I've been so far away that I want to give back. I know that seems silly but being able to talk football and sports brings a lot of relief to culture stress when you're away. Take care and God bless.

FYI on me (don't trust a stranger right): Family Med doc who trained in a full spectrum residency in Memphis, TN. Med school at MUSC. Prior to that did the pre-pharmacy program at Clemson with a year of pharmacy school at MUSC. Have a masters in Biomedical Studies where I did immunology research as part of a grant for NASA.

Mods feel free to move this thread if needed.
Thanks for what you do. I am a board certified internist/medical oncologist/hematologist & practiced for 40 years before retiring. I have been very involved with Covid planning at a 555 bed hospital in the midlands & so I am up to date.
Friday, we had 181 patients Covid + after only 5 on July 5. Of these 181, over 88% were unvaccinated. There were 68 patients on ventilators, of which 90% were unvaccinated.
We have had to cancel elective surgical procedures and move staff to the main hospital to care for Covid + patients.
As you can see, this surge in cases is real, deadly, and we are seeing younger, previously healthy patients on ventilators, with longer hospitalizations. Those who are vaccinated are doing much better than those who are not.
I took the Pfizer vaccine & will take the booster when available. The vaccine is effective, and has helped patients who were infected with the delta variant to survive.
The Pfizer vaccine will likely be approved by the FDA early this week.
I’m back to a mask in crowded areas, washing hands, hand sanitizer & I foresee that this virus will be around for awhile. Don’t be surprised if we need annual booster shots, similar to flu shots.
Stay safe, Tigers!!
 
Here’s August University’s data from last week. Consistent with yours and playing out the exact same clinically and logistically. University Hospital has put out a call to all and any nurses with ICU experience. Heard a story today of a 28 yo FM who is a healthcare worker, not vaccinated, got COVID, now is intubated, and looks like she may not make it. Truly terrible. Keep up your hard work!

 
The statistics are consitently the same, we have multiple Clemson fan doctors on here telling you the same things, and these people still deny the facts.

I truly don't understand what the deal is? Why do some of you guys so badly want to be against a vaccine that is proven to help lessen the severity and chance if death, without any serious side effects. I just don't understand.
 
I know zero about ivermectin, Hell, I hope it is a miracle drug. I know that people are sheep though that will believe anything their politician or media tells them and that makes them super stupid.

This goes for the right and the left. But this goes double for the people that put their lives in their own hands to take animal medicine because some idiot on TV said it was a good idea.

darwinism at its finest

You're right. You know nothing about Ivermectin...
 
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Has anyone considered maybe there is a shortage of doctors and nurses... that do not want the shots... that have quit or been fired... making it harder on the ER, intake, etc and people are so scared of the hospitals right now because more people are going in and never coming out than ever before... people are being isolated from their families and dying in isolation.

So perhaps instead ask other questions... why aren’t people going to doctors at the onset of symptoms? Why are people scared of hospitals? Why are hospitals short staffed?

all legit concerns and each plays a roll in the decisions of average Americans.
 
That sounds terrific. It really does. How many times have you heard that the vaccine isn’t meant to keep you from preventing the virus?

serious question. Do you really believe the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID? No sir, it’s to keep you out of the hospital. The effectiveness of the Pfizer is under 40%.

it’s an evil respiratory virus. Evil. Would be surprised if it’s ever gone. Same deal with the flu shot. It doesn’t prevent you from getting the flu. Hopefully makes it less severe and shorter in duration.

While the effectiveness has waned, your number is off.
 
*FDA Approved Vaccine
Great now the gestapo Can really get out there and start force inoculating all the stupid people out there that won’t get the shot and submit themselves to monthly/quarterly booster shots.

we all knew this was coming, congratulations one step closer to communism.
 
Great now the gestapo Can really get out there and start force inoculating all the stupid people out there that won’t get the shot and submit themselves to monthly/quarterly booster shots.

we all knew this was coming, congratulations one step closer to communism.
I am 100% confident that you have no idea what communism is.

forcing morons to look after their safety has been happening in this country for decades.
 
Pretty serious..

All doctors should be touting alternative options to the vaccine for younger more durable bodies and early treatments.

 
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