Mystery solved: DOJ secretly thwarted release of Russia documents declassified by Trump

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Department used last-minute privacy concerns to halt release, then ignored direct order from president to make memos public.

By John Solomon
Updated: July 20, 2022 - 12:34am
In the final hours of the Trump presidency, the U.S. Justice Department raised privacy concerns to thwart the release of hundreds of pages of documents that Donald Trump had declassified to expose FBI abuses during the Russia collusion probe, and the agency then defied a subsequent order to release the materials after redactions were made, according to interviews and documents.
The previously untold story of how highly anticipated declassified material never became public is contained in a memo obtained by Just the News from the National Archives that was written by then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows just hours before Trump left office on noon of Jan. 20, 2021.
Meadows' memo confirmed prior reporting by Just the News that Trump on Jan. 19, 2021 declassified a binder of hundreds of pages of sensitive FBI documents that show how the bureau used informants and FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign and misled both a federal court and Congress about flaws in the evidence they offered to get approval for the investigation.
The declassified documents included transcripts of intercepts made by the FBI of Trump aides, a declassified copy of the final FISA warrant approved by an intelligence court, and the tasking orders and debriefings of the two main confidential human sources, Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper, the bureau used to investigate whether Trump had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election.
In the end, multiple investigations found there was no such collusion and that the FBI violated rules and misled the FISA court in an effort to keep the probe going.
The documents that Trump declassified never saw the light of day, even though they were lawfully declassified by Trump and the DOJ was instructed by the president though Meadows to expeditiously release them after redacting private information as necessary.
"I am returning the bulk of the binder of declassified documents to the Department of Justice (including all that appear to have a potential to raise privacy concerns) with the instruction that the Department must expeditiously conduct a Privacy Act review under the standards that the Department of Justice would normally apply, redact material appropriately, and release the remaining material with redactions applied," Meadows wrote in the memo.
Just the News obtained the memo after going to the Trump collection at the National Archives and asking it to look for the binder of documents Trump had declassified. The Archives said it did not possess the documents, the Justice Department did and provided a copy of Meadows' memo.
In an interview Tuesday night on the "Just the News, Not Noise" television show, Meadows said he was dismayed that DOJ ignored a lawful instruction from a sitting president and said it was part of a larger dynamic in which the permanent federal bureaucracy repeatedly tied to undercut Trump to protect itself.
"Well, you know, the swamp is pretty deep," Meadows said. "But when we look at this, this particular president was all about draining the swamp, you know, and when he was running, that was more of a campaign slogan. When he got there, he realized that not only was the swamp very deep, but they they would fight back. And oftentimes he said, 'You know, I want to do this and get this out to the American people, not just the classification in terms of issues that affected him or his campaign personally, but issues that affect the American people.
"What would happen is he would have a directive, and then we would see, as people were leaving the Oval Office, you know, they were nodding compliance in the Oval Office, and the minute they go out, they said, 'Well, we're not going to do that' or 'We're going to find all the reasons not to do it.' So I found that very often while I served as chief of staff, but also found that as a member of Congress, that many times we would go in and the president was all in on a transparency issue, only to find that many, whether they be at a particular agency or the Pentagon, they started pushing back."
Liz Harrington, Trump’s spokeswoman, told Just the News that DOJ’s failure to release the memos fit a pattern of political abuse inside an agency that is supposed to be above politics.
“For four years they lied, leaked, spied on, and smeared President Trump in their attempts to defy the will of the people,” she said. “This is further proof of the depths they will go to hide their corruption. It is far past time for transparency of one of the biggest political scandals in American history.”
The Justice Department did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.
Meadows wrote in his 2021 memo that White House lawyers told him that the DOJ's last-minute concerns were not legitimate because the executive office of the president was exempt from the Privacy Act. In the interview Tuesday night, he said he agreed in the final minutes of the presidency to let DOJ make redactions "out of an abundance of caution" and expected the DOJ would comply with Trump's order.
"We wanted to make sure that that we didn't harm anyone," he explained. "And so we gave them those declassified documents. I want to stress they were declassified documents, and they were to do a final redaction for some of that personal information with the instruction that they were to go ahead and disseminate those. We expected fully that they would do that."
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Former Pentagon Chief of Staff Kash Patel, who worked as the chief investigative counsel for the House Intelligence Committee when it unraveled the false Russia narrative under then-Rep. Devin Nunes, said Tuesday the DOJ's defiance of a lawful presidential order only compounded the FBI's and department's failings during the original probe by preventing the American public from having transparency.
"It is illegal to hide documents from publication through the FOIA process, if their sole purpose is to cover up an embarrassment or unlawful activity, and that's what's going on right now," Patel told the John Solomon Reports podcast, criticizing current and former federal officials for not speaking out against the DOJ's defiance.
"It's shocking, but not surprising, since it has to do with President Trump," Patel added. "So their hypocrisy is on display." The DOJ and FBI, he said, simply attempted to run out the clock as the administration's final hours wound down.
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Patel said the next steps to force the disclosure of the documents is a FOIA lawsuit and possible subpoenas from Congress if Republicans regain control in the November elections. Just the News is exploring such litigation.
Tom Fitton, the president of the watchdog group Judicial Watch, said the documents in the binder are likely to be responsive to current lawsuits his group has pending at the Justice Department and FBI for Russia probe documents and the 2021 memo from Meadows may make it easier to persuade a court to take action. He said he believes DOJ is "still trying to protect their own in terms of the corruption involving the targeting of Trump" during the Russia probe.
Notably, Fitton's group won a court ruling years ago that the White House was exempt from the requirements of the Privacy Act, and he said the DOJ's last-minute effort to raise the issue to stop the release of the declassified documents smacked of bad faith.
DOJ "did the runaround to try to protect themselves from being exposed, because the documents, to be clear, relate to the improper targeting of Trump and his associates that we know is based on politics and animus as opposed to national security or anything substantive," Fitton told the "Just the News, Not Noise" show. "And in this case, these were documents that were made available pursuant to the president's lawful authority. And in the end, the FBI came up with a lie, which is that the Privacy Act was implicated in the release of these documents by the White House, and that wasn't the case."
Former Trump adviser David Bossie, the head of the Citizens United watchdog group, said the episode is a pointed reminder that the permanent bureaucracy in Washington wields so much power it can thwart the actions of a duly elected president.
"This is what President Trump ran against: the Deep State," Bossie said. "These are the deep state actors that the American people don't understand really what it's about, but it's the people who are the permanent class in Washington D.C. They just don't do what they're told. They don't do what they are ordered to do. And so when President Trump says to a bunch of bureaucrats to go do something, they sit on their hands, and especially at the last minute. This was a conspiracy against the president, within our own government."
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Meadows said if the documents are finally released, they will provide compelling evidence that congressional Democrats and FBI leaders who assured the public there was a Russia-Trump conspiracy actually knew what they were saying was untrue.
"We found that not only were some of the allegations made by some of the Democrats false, but they were kind of guilty of what they were accusing Donald Trump of," he said.
 

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Another example of the same insurrection.


Dr. Scott Atlas “Saved the World – A Hero for the Ages” During COVID Crisis Against Dr. Birx and the Deep State (VIDEO)​

By Joe Hoft
Published July 19, 2022 at 7:00pm
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Jeffrey Tucker, President of the Brownstone Institute was on the War Room this morning. He discussed his analysis of Dr. Birx’s book “Silent Invasion” and highlighted the work of Dr. Scott Atlas who he now claims saved the world!
Jack Posobiec was in the War Room this morning filling in for Steve Bannon who was sitting in show trial. Jack interviewed Jeffrey Tucker from the Brownstone Institute. The Gateway Pundit discussed Tucker’s analysis of Dr. Birx of COVID fame’s recent book “Silent Invasion.”
Based on what Tucker shared, the book is aptly named not for COVID but for the Deep State including players like Dr. Birx who usurped control from President Trump in another silent and deadly coup.
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Tucker discusses much of Dr. Birx and her dishonest and potentially criminal actions and her arch enemy Dr. Scott Atlas who many agree saved the world.
Tucker: You had essentially the entire Administrative state. So the entire NIH, and CDC and Department of Health and Human Services, and the entire beaurocratic was entirely organized against Trump who, I’m sorry to say it, and you felt this too because you were watching this very carefully at the time.
He was President in name only. Right? They were glad to have him on the campaign trail and announcing this and that, but there was a huge operation to disable his capacity to govern from March all the way to the election. And he began to sniff this out too because he began to try to hire certain employees in the CDC and open things up and get some rationale thinking, especially because Scott Atlas showed up.
Posobiec: The villian of the book. Her antagonist, Scott Atlas.
Tucker: Well let me tell you. That man saved the world as far as I’m concerned. What he did was brave and bold. I mean how many of us have walked into the belly of the beast and just told them what we really think about everything. I mean that’s exactly what Scott Atlas did so she had to kill him. And she’s still trying to kill him but actually her book inadvertantly makes him a great hero for the ages and reveals herself to be a [villian].
This was a short but great summary of Dr. Birx and the Deep State.
See video on TGP.
 

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I don't see a mention of nuclear related documents on here........this is basically just a broad list of "anything you find that looks interesting"

 
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Theres the justice department i knew would show up…appears another bang-up job
 

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Some good points in here albeit a tough thread to read. Focuses on the wording of the search warrant......the most interesting one.......the espionage act opens up a bigger broader set of potential charges to stick him with. Documents don't have to be classified to invoke the espionage act and form charges.........

 
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you might have missed it but he pretty much confessed to it.

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But why would the warrant not focus on classified documents if that was in fact, the focus? Read through this thread.......they are looking for any and all documents. Note the espionage act doesn't required the documents to be classified.

 

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But why would the warrant not focus on classified documents if that was in fact, the focus? Read through this thread.......they are looking for any and all documents. Note the espionage act doesn't required the documents to be classified.

Because these records aren't souvenirs for him to keep for bedtime reading at a porous resort with thousands of yearly visitors?
 

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Because these records aren't souvenirs for him to keep for bedtime reading at a porous resort with thousands of yearly visitors?
Wait, which is this about? Nuclear codes that put the nation's security in jeopardy (per the DOJ/FBI and the per usual anonymous sources leaking to media) or is it because he's not allowed to keep a napkin or a note from Obama when he first came into office?

You also understand that every president is given resources to construct their own archive upon exit, right? https://www.georgewbushlibrary.gov/get-involved/about-us/presidential-libraries
 
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Wait, which is this about? Nuclear codes that put the nation's security in jeopardy (per the DOJ/FBI and the per usual anonymous sources leaking to media) or is it because he's not allowed to keep a napkin or a note from Obama when he first came into office?

You also understand that every president is given resources to construct their own archive upon exit, right? https://www.georgewbushlibrary.gov/get-involved/about-us/presidential-libraries

logic and precedent dont work on a short bus, gotta use shiny objects
 

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More little details of the real insurgency that started when Trump won the election and continues today.


Department used last-minute privacy concerns to halt release, then ignored direct order from president to make memos public.

By John Solomon
Updated: July 20, 2022 - 12:34am
In the final hours of the Trump presidency, the U.S. Justice Department raised privacy concerns to thwart the release of hundreds of pages of documents that Donald Trump had declassified to expose FBI abuses during the Russia collusion probe, and the agency then defied a subsequent order to release the materials after redactions were made, according to interviews and documents.
The previously untold story of how highly anticipated declassified material never became public is contained in a memo obtained by Just the News from the National Archives that was written by then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows just hours before Trump left office on noon of Jan. 20, 2021.
Meadows' memo confirmed prior reporting by Just the News that Trump on Jan. 19, 2021 declassified a binder of hundreds of pages of sensitive FBI documents that show how the bureau used informants and FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign and misled both a federal court and Congress about flaws in the evidence they offered to get approval for the investigation.
The declassified documents included transcripts of intercepts made by the FBI of Trump aides, a declassified copy of the final FISA warrant approved by an intelligence court, and the tasking orders and debriefings of the two main confidential human sources, Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper, the bureau used to investigate whether Trump had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election.
In the end, multiple investigations found there was no such collusion and that the FBI violated rules and misled the FISA court in an effort to keep the probe going.
The documents that Trump declassified never saw the light of day, even though they were lawfully declassified by Trump and the DOJ was instructed by the president though Meadows to expeditiously release them after redacting private information as necessary.
"I am returning the bulk of the binder of declassified documents to the Department of Justice (including all that appear to have a potential to raise privacy concerns) with the instruction that the Department must expeditiously conduct a Privacy Act review under the standards that the Department of Justice would normally apply, redact material appropriately, and release the remaining material with redactions applied," Meadows wrote in the memo.
Just the News obtained the memo after going to the Trump collection at the National Archives and asking it to look for the binder of documents Trump had declassified. The Archives said it did not possess the documents, the Justice Department did and provided a copy of Meadows' memo.
In an interview Tuesday night on the "Just the News, Not Noise" television show, Meadows said he was dismayed that DOJ ignored a lawful instruction from a sitting president and said it was part of a larger dynamic in which the permanent federal bureaucracy repeatedly tied to undercut Trump to protect itself.
"Well, you know, the swamp is pretty deep," Meadows said. "But when we look at this, this particular president was all about draining the swamp, you know, and when he was running, that was more of a campaign slogan. When he got there, he realized that not only was the swamp very deep, but they they would fight back. And oftentimes he said, 'You know, I want to do this and get this out to the American people, not just the classification in terms of issues that affected him or his campaign personally, but issues that affect the American people.
"What would happen is he would have a directive, and then we would see, as people were leaving the Oval Office, you know, they were nodding compliance in the Oval Office, and the minute they go out, they said, 'Well, we're not going to do that' or 'We're going to find all the reasons not to do it.' So I found that very often while I served as chief of staff, but also found that as a member of Congress, that many times we would go in and the president was all in on a transparency issue, only to find that many, whether they be at a particular agency or the Pentagon, they started pushing back."
Liz Harrington, Trump’s spokeswoman, told Just the News that DOJ’s failure to release the memos fit a pattern of political abuse inside an agency that is supposed to be above politics.
“For four years they lied, leaked, spied on, and smeared President Trump in their attempts to defy the will of the people,” she said. “This is further proof of the depths they will go to hide their corruption. It is far past time for transparency of one of the biggest political scandals in American history.”
The Justice Department did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.
Meadows wrote in his 2021 memo that White House lawyers told him that the DOJ's last-minute concerns were not legitimate because the executive office of the president was exempt from the Privacy Act. In the interview Tuesday night, he said he agreed in the final minutes of the presidency to let DOJ make redactions "out of an abundance of caution" and expected the DOJ would comply with Trump's order.
"We wanted to make sure that that we didn't harm anyone," he explained. "And so we gave them those declassified documents. I want to stress they were declassified documents, and they were to do a final redaction for some of that personal information with the instruction that they were to go ahead and disseminate those. We expected fully that they would do that."
You can read the full memo here:
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Former Pentagon Chief of Staff Kash Patel, who worked as the chief investigative counsel for the House Intelligence Committee when it unraveled the false Russia narrative under then-Rep. Devin Nunes, said Tuesday the DOJ's defiance of a lawful presidential order only compounded the FBI's and department's failings during the original probe by preventing the American public from having transparency.
"It is illegal to hide documents from publication through the FOIA process, if their sole purpose is to cover up an embarrassment or unlawful activity, and that's what's going on right now," Patel told the John Solomon Reports podcast, criticizing current and former federal officials for not speaking out against the DOJ's defiance.
"It's shocking, but not surprising, since it has to do with President Trump," Patel added. "So their hypocrisy is on display." The DOJ and FBI, he said, simply attempted to run out the clock as the administration's final hours wound down.
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Patel said the next steps to force the disclosure of the documents is a FOIA lawsuit and possible subpoenas from Congress if Republicans regain control in the November elections. Just the News is exploring such litigation.
Tom Fitton, the president of the watchdog group Judicial Watch, said the documents in the binder are likely to be responsive to current lawsuits his group has pending at the Justice Department and FBI for Russia probe documents and the 2021 memo from Meadows may make it easier to persuade a court to take action. He said he believes DOJ is "still trying to protect their own in terms of the corruption involving the targeting of Trump" during the Russia probe.
Notably, Fitton's group won a court ruling years ago that the White House was exempt from the requirements of the Privacy Act, and he said the DOJ's last-minute effort to raise the issue to stop the release of the declassified documents smacked of bad faith.
DOJ "did the runaround to try to protect themselves from being exposed, because the documents, to be clear, relate to the improper targeting of Trump and his associates that we know is based on politics and animus as opposed to national security or anything substantive," Fitton told the "Just the News, Not Noise" show. "And in this case, these were documents that were made available pursuant to the president's lawful authority. And in the end, the FBI came up with a lie, which is that the Privacy Act was implicated in the release of these documents by the White House, and that wasn't the case."
Former Trump adviser David Bossie, the head of the Citizens United watchdog group, said the episode is a pointed reminder that the permanent bureaucracy in Washington wields so much power it can thwart the actions of a duly elected president.
"This is what President Trump ran against: the Deep State," Bossie said. "These are the deep state actors that the American people don't understand really what it's about, but it's the people who are the permanent class in Washington D.C. They just don't do what they're told. They don't do what they are ordered to do. And so when President Trump says to a bunch of bureaucrats to go do something, they sit on their hands, and especially at the last minute. This was a conspiracy against the president, within our own government."
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Meadows said if the documents are finally released, they will provide compelling evidence that congressional Democrats and FBI leaders who assured the public there was a Russia-Trump conspiracy actually knew what they were saying was untrue.
"We found that not only were some of the allegations made by some of the Democrats false, but they were kind of guilty of what they were accusing Donald Trump of," he said.
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Wait, which is this about? Nuclear codes that put the nation's security in jeopardy (per the DOJ/FBI and the per usual anonymous sources leaking to media) or is it because he's not allowed to keep a napkin or a note from Obama when he first came into office?

You also understand that every president is given resources to construct their own archive upon exit, right? https://www.georgewbushlibrary.gov/get-involved/about-us/presidential-libraries
Why are you pretending to know all the facts surrounding this lawful order when no one has spoken publicly about them? Other than what was leaked and we don't even know if that was true. They may have had very good reason for the breadth of the search but even the least sensitive level of classification - "Confidential" - is applied to information that is reasonably expected to cause "damage" to national security if disclosed.

What we just learned is documents show the FBI's search was an evidence-gathering step in a national security investigation about presidential records. Other than that, you nor I know anything

He should have done exactly what Obama did if he wanted to construct his own archive.

"After leaving office by, Trump claimed, keeping more than 30 million documents, many of them classified, and taking them to Chicago. The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) issued a Friday statement explaining it has "exclusive legal and physical custody" of the Obama-era records, that NARA itself moved about 30 million pages of unclassified records to one of its own facilities in the Chicago area, that the classified Obama-era records are maintained in a separate NARA facility near Washington, and that "former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration."
 

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Why are you pretending to know all the facts surrounding this lawful order when no one has spoken publicly about them? Other than what was leaked and we don't even know if that was true. They may have had very good reason for the breadth of the search but even the least sensitive level of classification - "Confidential" - is applied to information that is reasonably expected to cause "damage" to national security if disclosed.

What we just learned is documents show the FBI's search was an evidence-gathering step in a national security investigation about presidential records. Other than that, you nor I know anything

He should have done exactly what Obama did if he wanted to construct his own archive.

"After leaving office by, Trump claimed, keeping more than 30 million documents, many of them classified, and taking them to Chicago. The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) issued a Friday statement explaining it has "exclusive legal and physical custody" of the Obama-era records, that NARA itself moved about 30 million pages of unclassified records to one of its own facilities in the Chicago area, that the classified Obama-era records are maintained in a separate NARA facility near Washington, and that "former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration."
Which lawful order? The warrant was posted. The only outlier is the subpoena and what was listed as documents they wanted back, which we haven't seen.

How do you know he didn't intend to do what Obama did? NARA has given other presidents as much as 39 years to resolve the return of documents.......you folks want to ruin him so bad you're willing to take a technicality that didn't get evenly applied to other presidents?

If they knew for a fact that he had classified documents, they would have been listed in the subpoena and very likely the search warrant.

But seriously, enough of all of the bullshit. Either it's a witch hunt and the track record of corruption continues or he's guilty and he goes to prison but for the life of me, you don't need 19 months to collect evidence if it actually exists when you have the breadth and power of the government agencies all working on this.

Let's get on with it. Tax dollars are at stake here.
 
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Which lawful order? The warrant was posted. The only outlier is the subpoena and what was listed as documents they wanted back, which we haven't seen.

How do you know he didn't intend to do what Obama did? NARA has given other presidents as much as 39 years to resolve the return of documents.......you folks want to ruin him so bad you're willing to take a technicality that didn't get evenly applied to other presidents?

If they knew for a fact that he had classified documents, they would have been listed in the subpoena and very likely the search warrant.

But seriously, enough of all of the bullshit. Either it's a witch hunt and the track record of corruption continues or he's guilty and he goes to prison but for the life of me, you don't need 19 months to collect evidence if it actually exists when you have the breadth and power of the government agencies all working on this.

Let's get on with it. Tax dollars are at stake here.
Why do you keep ignoring the fact that an informant tipped them off to the highly classified documents - something that was only recently learned and wasn't known for 19 months?

 

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Why do you keep ignoring the fact that an informant tipped them off to the highly classified documents - something that was only recently learned and wasn't known for 19 months?

They also said he had nuclear secrets……those recovered yet? Was an awfully generic warrant if they had an informant on the inside. I’ll wait for the sworn statements.

Still no one wondering how a judge that recused himself on the Trump vs Hillary proceedings because he couldn’t be impartial was impartial enough to allow the warrant? No smoke there?

Law enforcement normally welcome the attorneys onsite to help point them to whatever it is they are looking for as described in the warrant. Going to be interesting to hear why they wouldn’t allow the Trump attorneys to enter the property.
 

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They also said he had nuclear secrets……those recovered yet? Was an awfully generic warrant if they had an informant on the inside. I’ll wait for the sworn statements.

Still no one wondering how a judge that recused himself on the Trump vs Hillary proceedings because he couldn’t be impartial was impartial enough to allow the warrant? No smoke there?

Law enforcement normally welcome the attorneys onsite to help point them to whatever it is they are looking for as described in the warrant. Going to be interesting to hear why they wouldn’t allow the Trump attorneys to enter the property.

Your final point is incorrect, they don't typically allow lawyers inside during the search. But, that said, Trump's Lawyer was onsite and signed the receipts for what was taken.
 

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Your final point is incorrect, they don't typically allow lawyers inside during the search. But, that said, Trump's Lawyer was onsite and signed the receipts for what was taken.
Just listened to a former FBI special investigator and now criminal defense attorney say the FBI's policy is to allow the attorneys in to avoid the risk of evidence tampering, plants, etc accusations. It also saves them time if they are looking for something specific........normally indicated in the warrant.

Also, worth noting that Bill O'reilly just said Trump hasn't been in Mara-Lago since May........not sure if true or not but really changes the risk profile of destroying evidence as the key driver for the warrant.
 

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Just listened to a former FBI special investigator and now criminal defense attorney say the FBI's policy is to allow the attorneys in to avoid the risk of evidence tampering, plants, etc accusations. It also saves them time if they are looking for something specific........normally indicated in the warrant.

Also, worth noting that Bill O'reilly just said Trump hasn't been in Mara-Lago since May........not sure if true or not but really changes the risk profile of destroying evidence as the key driver for the warrant.

That's no true in regards to Trump, and again, his lawyer was there and signed the documents. The family watched the whole thing on the security system from NYC. That was verified by his Lawyer.
 

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They also said he had nuclear secrets……those recovered yet? Was an awfully generic warrant if they had an informant on the inside. I’ll wait for the sworn statements.

Still no one wondering how a judge that recused himself on the Trump vs Hillary proceedings because he couldn’t be impartial was impartial enough to allow the warrant? No smoke there?

Law enforcement normally welcome the attorneys onsite to help point them to whatever it is they are looking for as described in the warrant. Going to be interesting to hear why they wouldn’t allow the Trump attorneys to enter the property.
His lawyer was there but also keep in mind that she collaborated in the fake elector scheme and was formerly on the OAN network as one one of the most loyal MAGA sycophants. She actually worked on Trump’s post-2020 election legal team, all the while covering the issue on-air at OAN. (She did not disclose this conflict to her viewers.) As usual, he only hires the best people.

Do you know if they found nuclear secrets or not? Do you???

Why SO DEFENSIVE?
 
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BLUE check marks is all I need to see. They are as dumb as you are.

You, and your folks are making this out to be a big deal, when in reality it is not. Keep getting your news from Twitter and TikTac dickpic. It makes it so much easier on the rest of us.
If you were to do a self-evaluation on this post, do you think it makes sense or sounds intelligent?
 

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If you were to do a self-evaluation on this post, do you think it makes sense or sounds intelligent?
If you were to do a self-evaluation on your entire life, do you think it makes sense or sounds intelligent?

How can you be so smart (in your own mind), yet be so ignorant? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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If you were to do a self-evaluation on your entire life, do you think it makes sense or sounds intelligent?

How can you be so smart (in your own mind), yet be so ignorant? Inquiring minds want to know.
I'm humbled and ashamed by your truth bomb Mr Nothing
 

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I'm humbled and ashamed by your truth bomb Mr Nothing
Ahh, change the subject. You libs are all alike. When you don't tell the truth/or in your case purport LIES, that's all you have.

You can't defend the truth, so you resort to name calling. Well, I'm rubber, and you're glue--you petulant child.
 

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Ahh, change the subject. You libs are all alike. When you don't tell the truth/or in your case purport LIES, that's all you have.

You can't defend the truth, so you resort to name calling. Well, I'm rubber, and you're glue--you petulant child.
The irony is RICH and I'd love to insult you back but I can't out-do what nature has already done to you. #MAGA
 

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Well then…that settles that. Nice detective work sherlock
I posted it because it's hilarious - but it's also true but you wouldn't know that if you've only had your head buried in the right wing, disinformation echo chamber.
 

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I posted it because it's hilarious - but it's also true but you wouldn't know that if you've only had your head buried in the right wing, disinformation echo chamber.
Well you guys are the experts in truth given you have to change yours every 6 weeks. Practice makes perfect tho amiright
 

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Hmm, as opposed to NEVER telling it? 🤔
One person - who hasnt been found to have done anything material you idiots alleged to date mind you - or entire government institutions and major media companies lying and weaponizing authority seem like the bigger issue? I dont expect you to get the right answer which is why we are where we are but oh well. Go back to fact checking sarcastic comments and jokes to add to your lies tally. Best you stay focused on something pointless so you dont screw up any more things that matter.
 
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The irony is RICH and I'd love to insult you back but I can't out-do what nature has already done to you. #MAGA
You're so clever. You're so smart you can't debate facts. You just try to insult and belittle those that disagree with you.

Evidently, nature has treated me well, compared to you.
 
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Because these records aren't souvenirs for him to keep for bedtime reading at a porous resort with thousands of yearly visitors?
But a Hillary was allowed to keep hers on her private server? Even top secret documents?

but no “reasonable prosecutor” would have brought charges. So she committed a crime they just didn’t want to prosecute.
Two tiered justice systems won’t survive. Mark my words
 
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You're so clever. You're so smart you can't debate facts. You just try to insult and belittle those that disagree with you.

Evidently, nature has treated me well, compared to you.
LMAO, I almost never address your ridiculous posts, however you come at me like a bellicose asshole and expect me to treat you with respect? Dude, you've got the intellect of a flea and a nasty disposition to boot. You are NOT debatable so shut your trap.
 

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LMAO, I almost never address your ridiculous posts, however you come at me like a bellicose asshole and expect me to treat you with respect? Dude, you've got the intellect of a flea and a nasty disposition to boot. You are NOT debatable so shut your trap.
You won't debate because you are a p**sy!
 

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They also said he had nuclear secrets……those recovered yet? Was an awfully generic warrant if they had an informant on the inside. I’ll wait for the sworn statements.

Still no one wondering how a judge that recused himself on the Trump vs Hillary proceedings because he couldn’t be impartial was impartial enough to allow the warrant? No smoke there?

Law enforcement normally welcome the attorneys onsite to help point them to whatever it is they are looking for as described in the warrant. Going to be interesting to hear why they wouldn’t allow the Trump attorneys to enter the property.
They also turned off all the security cameras. It’s the fourth branch of government answerable to no one.
Go to The Conservative Treehouse for a four part series on what the Deep State is, where it started and how it was weaponized by Obama and Holder. They answer to no one and have funding avaliable outside the Fed. This is why they so desperately want Trump out of the picture and possession of all the documents. Trump knew he could prove the coup attempt and all the lying to the public. I’m telling you if Trump is elected they’ll try to assasinate him and maybe before that. The jig is nearly up and they know it.
 
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