Mystery solved: DOJ secretly thwarted release of Russia documents declassified by Trump

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LMAO, I almost never address your ridiculous posts, however you come at me like a bellicose asshole and expect me to treat you with respect? Dude, you've got the intellect of a flea and a nasty disposition to boot. You are NOT debatable so shut your trap.
To get back to the discussion and for the record what is your opinion on what exactly happened and what is Trump guilty of? Does this whole story pass the smell test to you?
 

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They also turned off all the security cameras. It’s the fourth branch of government answerable to no one.
Go to The Conservative Treehouse for a four part series on what the Deep State is, where it started and how it was weaponized by Obama and Holder. They answer to no one and have funding avaliable outside the Fed. This is why they so desperately want Trump out of the picture and possession of all the documents. Trump knew he could prove the coup attempt and all the lying to the public. I’m telling you if Trump is elected they’ll try to assasinate him and maybe before that. The jig is nearly up and they know it.

Nah he wouldnt be taken out unless some rogue psycho was behind it…worst thing that could happen to dems. For one they need him like they need air to breathe….the only thing that draws any emotional response from voters outside the most deluded of the useful idiots is trump drama. And secondly the response would make him more influential than he ever was…would expand and unify the right more than anything they did ever could.

id expect we see a lot more of what we saw in michigan, 1/6, virginia etc…inciting actions and using deception to promote false narratives into midterms. Not sure anyones buying it anymore.
 
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This whole situation smells. DOJ/FBI operating like the mafia.


SPERRY: FBI Agents Involved in Trump Raid are Under Criminal Investigation by Durham For Abusing Their Power in Trump-Russia Probe​

By Cristina Laila
Published August 13, 2022 at 2:20pm
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Recall, investigative reporter Paul Sperry was suspended from Twitter earlier this week after he revealed the FBI may have had a personal stake and searched for classified documents related to Spygate.
“DEVELOPING: Investigators reportedly met back in June w Trump & his lawyers in Mar-a-Lago storage rm to survey docs & things seemed copasetic but then FBI raids weeks later. Speculation on Hill FBI had PERSONAL stake & searching for classified docs related to its #Spygate scandal.” – investigative journalist Paul Sperry said in a tweet Tuesday before getting suspended from Twitter.
Sperry dropped another bomb on Saturday.
According to Paul Sperry, the federal agents involved in the Mar-a-Lago raid are under investigation by Special Counsel John Durham.
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“Developing: Sources say the FBI agents and officials who were involved in the raid on former President Trump’s home work in the same Counterintelligence Division of the FBI that investigated Trump in the Russiagate hoax and are actively under criminal investigation by Special Counsel John Durham for potentially abusing their power investigating Trump in the Russian fraud and therefore have a potential conflict of interest and should have been RECUSED from participating in this supposed “espionage” investigation at Mar-a-Lago” Sperry said in a social media post on Saturday.

More than 3 dozen FBI agents descended on Trump’s Florida residence on Monday and searched the compound for several hours.
The FBI would not allow Trump’s lawyers to be anywhere near the areas that were rummaged through.
“Everyone was asked to leave the premises, they wanted to be left alone, without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or, hopefully not, “planting.” Why did they STRONGLY insist on having nobody watching them, everybody out?” Trump wrote on Truth Social on Wednesday.
The Washington Post on Thursday published a ‘leak’ from so-called government officials who claimed the FBI searched Trump’s Florida residence for classified records related to nuclear weapons.
The FBI raid was so urgent that the US government waited for more than a year-and-a-half after Trump left office to search for records related to ‘nuclear weapons.’
Furthermore, according to the search warrant obtained by Breitbart News, US Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart signed off on the search warrant on Aug. 5, 2022 but the FBI didn’t conduct the raid until August 8.
If this was such an urgent matter (it wasn’t) then why did the FBI wait several days until they descended on Trump’s home?
Breitbart also published the names of the FBI agents who signed off on the raid.
It appears the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago to seize documents that likely implicated the FBI – and now they’re claiming the records were related to nuclear weapons to justify the raid.
 

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To get back to the discussion and for the record what is your opinion on what exactly happened and what is Trump guilty of? Does this whole story pass the smell test to you?
No grand pronouncements here because even though he's obviously guilty of taking documents to his home that he's not allowed to possess, all it would take is one Ultra-Maga on the jury and he'd probably skate. Other than that, I'm following along just like you, but with better sources. These would be the possible charges if he were indicted.

 
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No grand pronouncements here because even though he's obviously guilty of taking documents to his home that he's not allowed to possess, all it would take is one Ultra-Maga on the jury and he'd probably skate. Other than that, I'm following along just like you, but with better sources. These would be the possible charges if he were indicted.

While you might get it into your head hed need a stacked jury - unlike sussman getting a jury full of hillary donors - this will blow up in fbi/doj’s face because, once again, they just couldnt help themselves crossing lines chasing their white whale. Destroying their institutional credibility to chase orange man…bang up job guys glad we have the adults in charge
 
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While you might get it into your head hed need a stacked jury - unlike sussman getting a jury full of hillary donors - this will blow up in fbi/doj’s face because, once again, they just couldnt help themselves crossing lines chasing their white whale. Destroying their institutional credibility to chase orange man…bang up job guys glad we have the adults in charge
And I've always heard that Republicans are the party of law and order. Just listen to what Trump had to say about classified documents.

 

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And I've always heard that Republicans are the party of law and order. Just listen to what Trump had to say about classified documents.

Oh the foremost authority on the subject. You can go convict him in your echo chamber.

in reality its a near certainty this was an egregious overstep by doj and fbi to retrieve docs that made the fbi look bad. Judge was on his rico case but had to recuse, trump denies ending rico case, bang next day you got said judge signing a warrant for an fbi raid on a former president. They had nothing in that warrant just a grab everything to get what they want… and then pray to god they find something they can use under your newest current thing classified docs. Doj signed off on that huh? Good luck with that
 

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Oh the foremost authority on the subject. You can go convict him in your echo chamber.

in reality its a near certainty this was an egregious overstep by doj and fbi to retrieve docs that made the fbi look bad. Judge was on his rico case but had to recuse, trump denies ending rico case, bang next day you got said judge signing a warrant for an fbi raid on a former president. They had nothing in that warrant just a grab everything to get what they want… and then pray to god they find something they can use under your newest current thing classified docs. Doj signed off on that huh? Good luck with that
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They ARE a form of mafia, it’s the fourth branch of government, the Intelligence State created after 9/11 and weaponized by Obama and Holder. They operate with total impunity, that is until Trump came along and started flushing them out into the open. They flushed out the Bush appointees in ‘09/10 and installed left wing fascists, and use their power to spy on, target and destroy political opposition aka Trump and anyone who dares call them out in the media and government. This is what happened when they sicced the IRS on Tea Party organizations and individuals and it’s a big reason why Obama won in 2012. The Tea Party was the first rise of populism when people had enough of government abuse and overreaching. Trump took a lot of documents which would expose them and they’re desperate to get them back but it’s too late. I doubt the Pubs will hold open hearings and blow the whole lid off but it is possible they can expose the whole thing. Politically it’s going to be hard for them to endure the media onslaught of lies and the left will get very violent trying to stop it with mass riots and protests.
Got to The Conservative Treehouse and look in the Deep State section. There’s an excellent four part Expose on the fourth branch, the Intelligence State.
 

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They ARE a form of mafia, it’s the fourth branch of government, the Intelligence State created after 9/11 and weaponized by Obama and Holder. They operate with total impunity, that is until Trump came along and started flushing them out into the open. They flushed out the Bush appointees in ‘09/10 and installed left wing fascists, and use their power to spy on, target and destroy political opposition aka Trump and anyone who dares call them out in the media and government. This is what happened when they sicced the IRS on Tea Party organizations and individuals and it’s a big reason why Obama won in 2012. The Tea Party was the first rise of populism when people had enough of government abuse and overreaching. Trump took a lot of documents which would expose them and they’re desperate to get them back but it’s too late. I doubt the Pubs will hold open hearings and blow the whole lid off but it is possible they can expose the whole thing. Politically it’s going to be hard for them to endure the media onslaught of lies and the left will get very violent trying to stop it with mass riots and protests.
Got to The Conservative Treehouse and look in the Deep State section. There’s an excellent four part Expose on the fourth branch, the Intelligence State.
TRUTH!!
 

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Man @dpic73 I commend you for taking all this on over and over. It hurts my head to even read some of this. Save yourself some time and energy and let them just wallow in their conspiracy theories. It’s all they have. Their savior is a coward, a criminal, a narcissistic sociopath but they’d fall on a sword for him. You’re not gonna change any brainwashed minds here, friend.
 

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Man @dpic73 I commend you for taking all this on over and over. It hurts my head to even read some of this. Save yourself some time and energy and let them just wallow in their conspiracy theories. It’s all they have. Their savior is a coward, a criminal, a narcissistic sociopath but they’d fall on a sword for him. You’re not gonna change any brainwashed minds here, friend.
Haha, I hear ya man and there are many days I regret stepping in it, but I was so alarmed by the damage caused by all the lies and misinformation swirling around in the Trump years that I told myself I would confront misinformation wherever I found it from now on. It's just unbelievable to me that there's even one person that believes the things you hear on this board, but there's so many of them - it's like they've all been overtaken by some dark malevolent spirit and they don't even know it. I guess I just can't help thinking that at least one of them sees the light, but you're right - it's not likely. Thanks for the shout out ;-).
 
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Haha, I hear ya man and there are many days I regret stepping in it, but I was so alarmed by the damage caused by all the lies and misinformation swirling around in the Trump years that I told myself I would confront misinformation wherever I found it from now on. It's just unbelievable to me that there's even one person that believes the things you hear on this board, but there's so many of them - it's like they've all been overtaken by some dark malevolent spirit and they don't even know it. I guess I just can't help thinking that at least one of them sees the light, but you're right - it's not likely. Thanks for the shout out ;-).
I hear you man. I tried to do the same at one point. The wildest part for me as a physician was watching my patients who had always been vaccinated or vaccinated their children suddenly start to not trust anything I told them because of…Trump. Literally nothing had changed except the orange man telling the world all the medical community was lying. One day hopefully they will all awaken from this mass hypnosis and we can all interact intelligently again and debate things we disagree about…but that day hasn’t come yet.
 
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I hear you man. I tried to do the same at one point. The wildest part for me as a physician was watching my patients who had always been vaccinated or vaccinated their children suddenly start to not trust anything I told them because of…Trump. Literally nothing had changed except the orange man telling the world all the medical community was lying. One day hopefully they will all awaken from this mass hypnosis and we can all interact intelligently again and debate things we disagree about…but that day hasn’t come yet.
Man I just can't imagine how difficult it would be to be a physician in the age of Trumpism. There's another poster here - pretty sure it was @PAWrocka, that relayed a story about a physician he knew that told him he had a patient who was about to expire from COVID and he asked her son, who was in the waiting room, if he wanted to say his final goodbye. Her son refused because he'd have to wear a mask. Insanity.
 

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Man I just can't imagine how difficult it would be to be a physician in the age of Trumpism. There's another poster here - pretty sure it was @PAWrocka, that relayed a story about a physician he knew that told him he had a patient who was about to expire from COVID and he asked her son, who was in the waiting room, if he wanted to say his final goodbye. Her son refused because he'd have to wear a mask. Insanity.
yup!

That was my neighbor. He is the director of nursing for the ER at the hospital here in Annapolis. Even though in a management role, he works the floor a lot and often communicates with families in the waiting areas.

Since March of 2020, he and I have shared many many many driveway beers to allow him to decompress before he'd go into his house after work.

The story above ... that was a rough day for him ... he cried ... in my driveway

People are just crazy now ... rightly or wrongly, there is a serious lack of trust in our Government and leaders at all levels. We are either on the verge of civil war, World War with Russia/China ... this time with nukes, a racial Armageddon, plague, famine, financial collapse, or everything thing is fine and the status quo ..... all of that or none of that could be true and its driving people absolutely MAD.
 

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