Should we concede that territory to Russia too? Just trying to figure out if the communist dictator can go too far for you guys.
How can I misquote a video dude?God almighty you don't understand anything. All Biden said was "it's unlikely the missile was fired from Russia."
So you wildly misquote him, and then immediately leap to preposterous, implausible conclusions based on literally nothing but your own misquote.
I don't say this condescendingly or with an ounce of judgment, but you seriously need help. You've lost all touch with reality.
I don't know, but you managed to do it.How can I misquote a video dude?
Just because he said the trajectory indicated it didn't come from Russia, doesn't mean it wasn't fired by Russia. Could have come from the sea or even Belarus (a Russian proxy).Not so fast.
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This + Duda saying they have "no evidence as to who fired the missile" is more or less official confirmation that this was a Ukrainian air defence malfunction, they will keep making a bit of a show out of it, but not much else
I expect the party line to be "Ukraine wouldn't have to recklessly fire ancient AD rockets they have neglected to maintain for 30 years into neighboring countries if Russia didn't start the war so basically Putin killed those Polish citizens"
(Either that, or they'll just forget about it in a few days)
Thank goodness you are not running the show. I did not make any ultimate statement one way or the other but am telling you guys to let it play out before making hardcore conclusions as OP did in this thread title.Just because he said the trajectory indicated it didn't come from Russia, doesn't mean it wasn't fired by Russia. Could have come from the sea or even Belarus (a Russian proxy).
I would be all in on NATO ending this right here and now, though I understand the concern about the nuclear threat. I just don't think we can let it slide because of fear...
Of course but we also can't play footsie if we discover they did it... I know you, Marjorie and Gosar won't approve but thank goodness y'all aren't running the show LOLThank goodness you are not running the show. I did not make any ultimate statement one way or the other but am telling you guys to let it play out before making hardcore conclusions as OP did in this thread title.
You literally posted it could only have been a Ukrainian systems malfunction. That's the only conclusion anyone itt has made.Thank goodness you are not running the show. I did not make any ultimate statement one way or the other but am telling you guys to let it play out before making hardcore conclusions as OP did in this thread title.
You somehow think the US can swoop in and take Russia out like we did Iraq and some other small skirmishes..that wouldnt happen. Are you signing your kids if you have any to go over there? Besides if we go at Russia we will feel it back here on the US mainland also without a doubt. Do you have a bomb shelter?Of course but we also can't play footsie if we discover they did it... I know you, Marjorie and Gosar won't approve but thank goodness y'all aren't running the show LOL
Please ignore me. That would make me happy. I did not say that. I copied the link in case you missed it.You literally posted it could only have been a Ukrainian systems malfunction. That's the only conclusion anyone itt has made.
I'm putting you on ignore now. I'm not telling you to be snarky, but so that you won't waste your time responding to anything I say. I just can't handle your stupidity anymore.
It wouldn't be just the US, it would be NATO, which consists of 30 countries. An attack on one is an attack on all. We could kick them out of Ukraine in a couple days if we needed to. Not advocating going into Russia itself, but if you remove the Orcs from Ukraine and institute a no-fly zone - problem solved.You somehow think the US can swoop in and take Russia out like we did Iraq and some other small skirmishes..that wouldnt happen. Are you signing your kids if you have any to go over there? Besides if we go at Russia we will feel it back here on the US mainland also without a doubt. Do you have a bomb shelter?
First of all the vast majority of the funds and manpower of NATO is the US, so dont go there. You obviously have no idea what war is and what Russia has. First of all Russia can and would challenge us in the air, ground and sea. You are out of your mind if you really believe that we could take Russia out in a few days. It would be a years long engagement. Basically WW3. Do not think for a second that China would just sit idly by and watch either.It wouldn't be just the US, it would be NATO, which consists of 30 countries. An attack on one is an attack on all. We could kick them out of Ukraine in a couple days if we needed to. Not advocating going into Russia itself, but if you remove the Orcs from Ukraine and institute a no-fly zone - problem solved.
First of all the vast majority of the funds and manpower of NATO is the US, so dont go there. You obviously have no idea what war is and what Russia has. First of all Russia can and would challenge us in the air, ground and sea. You are out of your mind if you really believe that we could take Russia out in a few days. It would be a years long engagement. Basically WW3. Do not think for a second that China would just sit idly by and watch either.
Dude, read your last statement again. That’s the problem.Dude 😂
"The combined total of Nato military personnel currently exceeds 5.4 million – around four times as many as Russia, according to Statista. It has about five times as many aircraft, four times as many armoured vehicles and three times as many military ships."
Russia would be no match for NATO unless they resort to nuclear weapons....
Do you have a military background or any understanding of logistics and supply line? Hell no!! You are making yourself look not smart and silly to be chomping at the bit to start WW3 over a few missiles that hit right near the Poland Ukraine border and we have no idea how they got there. 2 casualties. Do you think this is how Russia would attack Poland if they wanted to? As your vaunted leader and idol says "Come on Man!!"Dude 😂
"The combined total of Nato military personnel currently exceeds 5.4 million – around four times as many as Russia, according to Statista. It has about five times as many aircraft, four times as many armoured vehicles and three times as many military ships."
Russia would be no match for NATO unless they resort to nuclear weapons....
now we trust biden?
First of all the vast majority of the funds and manpower of NATO is the US, so dont go there. You obviously have no idea what war is and what Russia has. First of all Russia can and would challenge us in the air, ground and sea. You are out of your mind if you really believe that we could take Russia out in a few days. It would be a years long engagement. Basically WW3. Do not think for a second that China would just sit idly by and watch either.
Win Win, unless you're rooting for russia.Have you been following this war? US + NATO would absolutely destroy the fvck out of Russia in a conventional war, and do it quickly. Their capacity to make war has been dramatically reduced with sanctions + Ukraine. Their capability is far less than originally perceived. It would not be WW3, China doesn’t want that smoke either. The only threat from the orcs is nuclear weapons.
That said, we shouldn’t engage them unless absolutely necessary. The approach in Ukraine has been perfect. Zero American lives lost, slow destruction of a top 3 global military. Win win.
I think you are flat wrong in stating that it would be an easy victory. If you numbnuts want to engage Russia over Ukraine then take your ass and your eligible sons and sign up.Have you been following this war? US + NATO would absolutely destroy the fvck out of Russia in a conventional war, and do it quickly. Their capacity to make war has been dramatically reduced with sanctions + Ukraine. Their capability is far less than originally perceived. It would not be WW3, China doesn’t want that smoke either. The only threat from the orcs is nuclear weapons.
That said, we shouldn’t engage them unless absolutely necessary. The approach in Ukraine has been perfect. Zero American lives lost, slow destruction of a top 3 global military. Win win.
I think you are flat wrong in stating that it would be an easy victory. If you numbnuts want to engage Russia over Ukraine then take your ass and your eligible sons and sign up.
I feel the same about your statements here in relation to IQ.I pretty clearly said that I don’t want us to engage directly. And I don’t think my 6 and 2 year old boys would contribute much on the battlefield, although the 6 year old is a maniac. Not to mention that’s not how things work and the comment has a very double digit IQ feel to it.
I feel the same about your statements here in relation to IQ.
That's fine with me if that turned out to be true. I have my opinions and it will take a lot to change my mind.Fair enough, though I’m quite certain a quick poll would reveal your sentiment to be the minority opinion. By a lot.
never understood your 'i'm afraid of russia' take. not like you to be so scared.
There are certainly no guarantees that all parties would stick to a "conventional" war. NATO shouldn't want to provoke Russia into any sort of a war. People do crazy shit when cornered.Have you been following this war? US + NATO would absolutely destroy the fvck out of Russia in a conventional war, and do it quickly. Their capacity to make war has been dramatically reduced with sanctions + Ukraine. Their capability is far less than originally perceived. It would not be WW3, China doesn’t want that smoke either. The only threat from the orcs is nuclear weapons.
That said, we shouldn’t engage them unless absolutely necessary. The approach in Ukraine has been perfect. Zero American lives lost, slow destruction of a top 3 global military. Win win.
I don’t know the answer but do you think we should go to nuclear war with Russia?Should we concede that territory to Russia too? Just trying to figure out if the communist dictator can go too far for you guys.
My take is war is a last resort and Ukraine Russia territorial war does not rise to that level. No US vital national security interest at risk in that situation.never understood your 'i'm afraid of russia' take. not like you to be so scared.
This x 1000There are certainly no guarantees that all parties would stick to a "conventional" war. NATO shouldn't want to provoke Russia into any sort of a war. People do crazy shit when cornered.
'i don't know' is very telling there. maybe take some time and think about what it means if we hand over occupied lands after stunts like this. is it worth it to stop dictators from taking your house and your land? what about part of your country? where should it stop? if he took california would you be OK with that?I don’t know the answer but do you think we should go to nuclear war with Russia?
My take is war is a last resort and Ukraine Russia territorial war does not rise to that level. No US vital national security interest at risk in that situation.
So now the Russians are the Germans? 🤣 Someone needs to go back and take a history lesson. That is a huge stretch. Again you think we should go to war with Russia that’s your big take away? If the Russians really wanted to take our country right now they could just march right now at any time right across our southern boarder like everyone else. Biden would absolutely let them and probably pay them to do it. 😂so you also think the germans should have been allowed to reclaim czech and polish land without being stopped too. i mean they were bringing their own ethnic people back home. no reason a war should have broken out for those two dumb little countries, right?
no you're just projecting all over the place. where did i say go to war with russia?So now the Russians are the Germans? 🤣 Someone needs to go back and take a history lesson. That is a huge stretch. Again you think we should go to war with Russia that’s your big take away? If the Russians really wanted to take our country right now they could just march right now at any time right across our southern boarder like everyone else. Biden would absolutely let them and probably pay them to do it. 😂
So you didn’t compare the Russians to the Germans then? Well if you aren’t implying war what do you suggest big guy because for some reason I don’t think sanctions and being an internet tough guy is gonna get it done. Seems like old Joe already tried that.no you're just projecting all over the place. where did i say go to war with russia?