That's not exactly what the "actual" science says, but hard to disagree that if you are going to require masks N95 and KN95 should be preferred as they are now much more readily available. They are simply more effective.
I’ll error with the decades of science before 2020. When politicians change definitions to align with policy “science” isn’t the best term to use anymore.
The vaccine isn’t to keep you from getting sick. Vaccinated need to be mask. UK continues to have vaccinated deaths climb each week.
Truth is more important than facts.
You can't make people understand this. You can explain it to them, but you can't understand it for them.
The science that I see tells me that I, as a vaccinated individual, have about a 0.2% chance of a breakthrough infection at this point, so I completely understand that I am "at risk" of getting sick. The chances of me having a level of infection that requires me to be hospitalized is a little less than that and my chance of dying from said case is even more remote than that. As such, I feel as "safe" generally speaking. I wear a mask where I am asked to do so, but it pisses me off that I am being asked to do so because there are so many jack holes that refuse to get the shot. THAT group of individuals blows MY mind!!
I was a Moderna vaccine tester who got the placebo. I understand this quite well.
Macon, GA. Thankfully science isn’t limited to borders.
I am not vaccinated and don’t give a shit what you think. And vaccinated people can get and transmit covid just like everyone else and typically without even know it if asymptomatic.
A vaccination isn't a guarantee of a damned thing. Vaccinated in May in Louisiana. Both my wife and I. We both had COVID-19 last month in Lake Toxaway NC. At least we got 2 kayaking trips in before we got sick.
mostly correct .... bold and underline is not true. The transmission rate between vaccinated individuals is significantly less than vaxxed to unvaxxed or unvaxxed to unvaxxed.
Maybe not “safe,” but definitely safer. Much lower rate of infection and 9-11 times less likely to be hospitalized or death. From the perspective the first-line medical personnel, the rush for treatment is a crisis of the unvaccinated. The same people denied COVID was dangerous and believe that only elderly and infirm people are at risk, also deny that masks are effective and vaccinations are a tool in putting COVID in some form of remission. The R&D on vaccines and the speedy implementation spurred on by Project Warp Speed are major achievements of this new century.
Correct. I just meant they can still transmit it. I’m not getting the vaccine regardless. 99.9%.
The science behind masking was well in place prior to when the parties of Trump and Biden took over the conversations surrounding public health.
Oh I’m aware, I’ve spent countless hours reading up on the science. You seem to blaze over everything changed in 2020…
Yeah......pretty much everyone in this country blindly deciding what's "truth" has a lot to do with the mess we are in.
Interesting that I'm getting lectured on what decades of science have said from someone who didn't start high school biology until barely 1 decade ago.
I don't disagree with you. There is a very simple solution to this problem, in my opinion.
agreed .... but it was also one of the greatest failure in our response to CV19. Both Administrations have presented the vaccines as miracles of science (Trump moreso) in a effort to bolster Nationalist propaganda. Normally I would be a HUGE fan because ... ya .... F* China!!!!!!!!!!!! but ..... this wasnt the time for chest thumping.
www.nbcnews.com
yup ... he and the dweebs from 8Chan have created a monster that not even they can contain anymore.You are not wrong, but you do realize that he was booed at one of his own rallies a few weeks ago for suggesting that people get vaxxed. it probably didn't help that when he got vaxxed he chose to do it in secret vs. getting it done on TV like other politicians did. The damage is already done.
Trump booed at Alabama rally after telling supporters to get vaccinated
"But I recommend take the vaccines," Trump said. "I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."
I think there is missing context. I think they Booed because that was the pinnacle of "get ready for mandates" which I cant imagine people being ok with. The Jenny McCarthy's of the world will always exist. There's always going to be people against nearly everything. Especially vaccines.You are not wrong, but you do realize that he was booed at one of his own rallies a few weeks ago for suggesting that people get vaxxed. it probably didn't help that when he got vaxxed he chose to do it in secret vs. getting it done on TV like other politicians did. The damage is already done.
Trump booed at Alabama rally after telling supporters to get vaccinated
"But I recommend take the vaccines," Trump said. "I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."
The vaccine is designed to keep you out of the hospital and from dying. The vaccine DOES NOT mean you will never catch COVID.
You forgot a few“N95’s to slow the spread”?
This stuff is like the last names on the Cleveland Browns’ QB Jersey:
“15 days to slow the spread”
“Hand washing, distancing to slow the spread”
“Limit gatherings to slow the spread”
“Masks to slow the spread”
“Lockdowns to slow the spread”
“Vax to slow the spread (no masks if vax)”
“Sorry Vax and masks to slow the spread”
“Vax might not slow the spread so masks”
“Mandatory Vax to slow the spread”
“Boosters to slow the spread”
“N95’s to slow the spread”
BAKER MAYFIELD!!!
Recent effectiveness study shows 10% efficacy in non-95 masks. If masks are to have effectiveness, the right masks should be prescribed. Otherwise, 10% efficacy in wearing a "cute-Karen-themed" mask is government control. Outside of living like a hermit away from all other living creatures, vaccines are an effective intervention to prevent Covid-19 hospitalizations and death. It may also provide some protection against contracting the virus.
9/10
Hard to get people who chain smoke cigarettes, do drugs, are alcoholics and severely obese to get vaccinated
I've seen that study. I've also seen studies that show that if both parties wear a mask that effectiveness is greater than that. I've also seen where utilization of n95 masks is even greater.
