That’s easy - they weren’t voting for a theologian or pastor or religious leader, they were voting for the political head of a federal republic.
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There isn't a "candidate" in the Democrat party today that doesn't preach Fascism. THAT is a fact....if you even understand what it means. Pelosi and that fvcking crew believe that they have the power...and rights....to dictate how Americans live. Worse, they feel your hard work should be taxed to the maximum and still want it all. Fair share my freaking ass. The libtards can kiss my ass.
Haha you mean Beto? Guy who isnt even running now?
Also hell yeah take the AR15 away if it ends mass shootings especially since we keep cutting funds toward mental health programs while a certain party wants to cling to that argument.
Churches should not be free from tax when they are collecting millions from the congregations.
There is plenty of evidence. My goodness you really believe there isnt any evidence?
Newsflash he doesnt put you first. He puts his own interests first. He puts his corporate friends first. He has turned our farmers into welfare recipients.
He does nothing for the American people. He would rather be a puppet to KJU and Putin while telling our allies to kiss his ass.
All the buzz words.
She was found not gulity of what you accuse of her even with that clown Gowdy leading a witch hunt.
Got it - so it shouldn’t be a surprise that you and I disagree. I’m not expecting to change your mind. I just hope you don’t expect to change mine!
I am a conservative Christian and I think Trump should be impeached. I take no pleasure siding with democrats but I WILL NOT COMPROMISE MY PRINCIPALS FOR A PARTY. I believe in the Constitution and not in any particular politician.
He released the memo himself, it's evidence, it's proof, he did it. Don't be an ostrich.
You did not do your homework. You are objectively wrong. Do your homework and come back.
I agree with you 100% that morality can't be legislated. I am a firm believer in separation of church and state. I appreciate and value diverse policy debate. I appreciate those who have opinions different than mine. Trump does not. He wants to be an authoritarian ruler like Putin, Erdogan, Kim Jung-un, etc. Anyone who doesnt bow down and bend the knee he wants to destroy.
But as a Christian when any person, whether the President, my neigbor, my brother, does something dispicable and immoral to another person or people, it should be called out. Watch this video below from last night. This isnt about legislation, this is about human decency.
All the congresswoman being mocked and told her husband was in hell did was show grace and appreciation to the president when her husband passed. And she happened to be a democrat who voted her conscience. She didnt attack him or disrespect him. This is one of about a thousand examples, and yet not even the worst of them. It is simply one of the worst things he did yesterday.
Trump is not the only politician on the planet who will support the legislation you support. He is just the most dispicable, immoral, and most unhinged one. If he was convicted and removed from office, Mike Pence would be President and he would support every one of those issues you outlined as important to you. Again, this isn’t a choice between two evils. People who turn a blind eye to this despicable person just want to convince themselves it is to make themselves feel better about supporting and enabling him.
there is more to the van drew story. He was polling very poorly as a democrat and was likely to lose his seat in November. He wants what all of these politicians want, another term.
this is why we need term limits. It would change Washington for the better overnight.
That is an olympic-record leap of logic.
Immoral words should be impetus for impeachment? Immoral words, is that really what we want to judge our country's executive by?
I'm not an ostrich. No, no proof. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. Trump never benefited. No aid was ever withheld. No proof of any pressure was proven.
Wow. you are really principled. I guess because you state that you are a Christian somehow leads weight to your opinion? Maybe?
I am a Christian, since you brought it up (not that it really matters) ,and I too believe in the Constitution. Why did you bring up the Constitution?
OMG. Wow. Just wow.
Dude help me out with the evidence. I 'm just a moron Repub with an Ivy League degree trying to get "educated". Don't bash me. Help me.
Our President a Puppet to KJU and Putin! How is that ? What is he doing.?
If so, that is terrible. However, I thought that he gave lethal aid to Ukraine never given by the last admin, and increased defense spending and forced NATO to increase their defense contributions in relation to their GDP. No? I thought that he increased sanctions on the Norks?
My Response to Christianity Today: Christianity Today released an editorial stating that President Trump should be removed from office—and they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements), so I feel it is important for me to respond. Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed. I have not previously shared who my father voted for in the past election, but because of this article, I feel it is necessary to share it now. My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump. He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation. For Christianity Today to side with the Democrat Party in a totally partisan attack on the President of the United States is unfathomable. Christianity Today failed to acknowledge that not one single Republican voted with the Democrats to impeach the President. I know a number of Republicans in Congress, and many of them are strong Christians. If the President were guilty of what the Democrats claimed, these Republicans would have joined with the Democrats to impeach him. But the Democrats were not even unanimous—two voted against impeachment and one voted present. This impeachment was politically motivated, 100% partisan. Why would Christianity Today choose to take the side of the Democrat left whose only goal is to discredit and smear the name of a sitting president? They want readers to believe the Democrat leadership rather than believe the President of the United States. Look at all the President has accomplished in a very short time. The economy of our nation is the strongest it has been in 50 years, ISIS & the caliphate have been defeated, and the President has renegotiated trade deals to benefit all Americans. The list of accomplishments is long, but for me as a Christian, the fact that he is the most pro-life president in modern history is extremely important—and Christianity Today wants us ignore that, to say it doesn’t count? The President has been a staunch defender of religious freedom at home and around the world—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that? Also the President has appointed conservative judges in record number—and Christianity today wants us to ignore that? Christianity Today feels he should be removed from office because of false accusations that the President emphatically denies. Christianity Today said it’s time to call a spade a spade. The spade is this—Christianity Today has been used by the left for their political agenda. It’s obvious that Christianity Today has moved to the left and is representing the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism. Is President Trump guilty of sin? Of course he is, as were all past presidents and as each one of us are, including myself. Therefore, let’s pray for the President as he continues to lead the affairs of our nation.
@24TIGER please tell Franklin Graham I agree 100%. Keep fighting the good fight! Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@24TIGER please tell Franklin Graham I agree 100%. Keep fighting the good fight! Merry Christmas to you and your family.
This is my stance as well. I dont agree with Trumps behavior and language but you cant remove a President for crude language and immoral behavour.
I keep going back to the Clinton impeachment. Democrats fought to save his Presidency and his conduct was just as immoral as Trumps yet they want to run Trump out of town on a rail. That hypocrisy doesnt sit well with me.
I also believe today's Democrats are trying to fundementally change America and move us toward socialism, which I believe can not happen.
Another thing that sticks out to me is Trump claims to be pro-life. As a Christian I could not vote for a pro-abortion platform that wants to use our tax dollars to fund clinics.
The office of the President deserves better than Trump but he has gotten good results. He seems to be for protecting America's best interests, supports our military and law enforcement, and he will state America is a Christian nation.
For all his shortcomings, I will continue to support him before I support any Democratic candidate for political office. Ben Carson was my choice to win the republican nomination but we screwed that up.
SMH at a bunch of self righteous Christians itt. What did Jesus say about casting stones? You people are the Pharisees. King David, chosen by God to be King of Israel, committed adultery and murder.
Also laughing at libs agreeing with the self righteous. Libs who otherwise think that being a Christian automatically disqualifies anyone from running for "public" office.
Trump is saving the country from tyranny. We're just seeing the beginnings of it. Look at how crooked our FBI/DOJ leadership had become. If Hillary had won, we'd have lost all of our rights eventually. Just look at the attacks on free speech. Look at what's going on in Va with guns.
Also laughing at libs agreeing with the self righteous. Libs who otherwise think that being a Christian automatically disqualifies anyone from running for "public" office.
Trump is saving the country from tyranny. We're just seeing the beginnings of it. Look at how crooked our FBI/DOJ leadership had become. If Hillary had won, we'd have lost all of our rights eventually. Just look at the attacks on free speech. Look at what's going on in Va with guns.
You first have to establish a fact that he intended to withold the money for a specific reason. Not one iota, scintilla of that evidence exists. Only people with giving opinions which the left takes as facts. The only factual witness, that gave public testimony was Sondland. Vindman listened to the call, was part of the team that took notes on the call, and he had no direct evidence. Remember, Schiff was interviewing witnesses in the basement before allowing them to testify publicly. There were a few basement interviews that didn't make it to the public hearings. The repubs say those interviews totally exonerated the POTUS. This might be part of the reason that Pelosi will not send her Articles over to the Senate. She knows they are toast.
Or she wants a fair trail which she knows Moscow Mitch wont give. Snivelling crook
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She's NOT on trial, the President is. She's been in total control of the investigation. As the prosecutor in the trial all she has to do is present her case against the POTUS. The person who hasn't been treated fairly, is the ACCUSED. In America, the defendant is THE ONE who is guaranteed a fair trial. In what universe has Trump been treated fairly during the investigation? I'll hand up and listen. BTW, all you did with that post is parrot CNN, MSNBC or some other propaganda.
He wasn't impeached for immoral words. Where did I say that? Where did the article say that?
My God, man. The House investigates and files the charges, right? So, in the House there are dems and repubs, right? The dems are the majority, right?
Nancy appointed Shifty to run the investigation, right? Shifty doesn't allow the repubs to call their own witnesses!! How can you not know this?
Why do you say morality can’t be legislated? It can and is and our entire legal framework is based on legislated morality.
It's funny that Franklin Graham has now come out and condemned this article and states that his father, who the article invokes to try to give it's opinions moral standing, would not be in favor of the impeachment.
Trump's response...
"A far left magazine, or very “progressive,” as some would call it, which has been doing poorly and hasn’t been involved with the Billy Graham family for many years, Christianity Today, knows nothing about reading a perfect transcript of a routine phone call and would rather have a Radical Left nonbeliever, who wants to take your religion & your guns, than Donald Trump as your President. No President has done more for the Evangelical community, and it’s not even close. You’ll not get anything from those Dems on stage. I won’t be reading ET again!"— President Trump on Twitter
this guy is a farkin idiot. Don't know how his supporters can't see it. So much here...
1. It's Christianity Today not Entertainment Tonight.
2. He says he will stop reading CT, does anyone really believe he is actually reading it before?
3. Apparently CT is a far left magazine now? The enemy of the people?
4. Trump conflating religion and guns in the same argument here.
He is entitled to his opinion. His father did not live long enough to see what a morally reprehensible person we have in the white house. I am sure his father would have loved it the other day when Trump said a long time congressman and war hero might be in hell since he disagreed with trump.
I was savedafter listening to a Billy Graham sermon. I adore Billy Graham and believe he is one of the most Godly men of the last several centuries. There is no evangelical leader in America today who can begin to touch the work he did in advancing the gospel. I have dozens of his sermons saved on my DVR right now.
That said, Franklin Graham is not Billy Graham. He never has been. And I don't believe he is the voice of Billy Graham today as he wants to try and assert. I find it dispicable that he would try and weaponize his father in a political debate. He is very, very different than Billy Graham and I see very few similarities. His own family even disagrees with his using his ministry to espouse and promote his personal political beliefs. And not all of Billy's family agrees with Franklin in his support of Trump and defense of him. See article here.
Franklin Graham consistently does the very thing that Jesus avoided. Jesus refused to become involved in any political issues in His days on earth. He refused to be made king. He never incited his followers against Rome and when the pharisees tried to trap him in a political debate on taxes he famously said "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God". (re: Matthew 22:15-22).
Franklin Graham is a politically motivated person who wrongly uses his father's name and ministry to advance his own political views and that is a shame. Actually I find it dispicable. And in my opinion it dimishes his ministry and his trying to do God's work.
Let me clarify... we absolutely have laws that are based on the moral values of society. But what you can't do is legislate someone into being a moral person. You also can't legislate someone into being a Christian. Some people evidently think you can.
Graham's grandson came out with a different opinion today, saying that his grandfather would have supported CT's stance.
