Trump called Scott Pruitt a good man recently, look for him to be fired soon as the Trump train of success via term limits continues
OT: EPA head has received kiss of death
- Thread starter johnhugh
- Start date
Personally, I choose to believe that the President is a genius operating on a level that no one can yet comprehend, and that he doesnt need appointees, advisors or a cabinet or anything. He can rule from his twitter feed. He's that smart.
But, honestly I'm not so sure he fires Scott Pruitt. He likes the guy.
But, honestly I'm not so sure he fires Scott Pruitt. He likes the guy.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/politics/scott-pruitt-trump-jeff-sessions/index.html
Some may decry the source as "fake news", but this article cites someone who is familiar with Trump's thinking as saying that Pruitt is his top choice to replace Jeff Sessions. But the ever-growing cloud of controversy that surrounds Pruitt may be too much to save him.
Meh, mountain out of a molehill. Trump probably has proposed out loud that Sean Hannity would be a great Secretary of State.
While that is not even a remote possibility, we have all just learned that you watch "The View" every day.
Wish he'd call the EPA a good man and fire it.
Blow the whole thing up and start over.
We need an agency to enforce environmental regulations, but the EPA needs a serious overhaul.
Blow the whole thing up and start over.
We need an agency to enforce environmental regulations, but the EPA needs a serious overhaul.
I deal with them (or their regulations) on a regular basis. A lot of them are just plain stupid.
Then there's the whole Volkswagen thing. The EPA gets fooled for years and yet the University of West Virginia catches them?
CNN News and some of the other liberal news outlets are using everything in their power to undermine and destroy this presidency. Not that Trump is indeed an idiot as evidenced by some of this things he has done and is doing, but his stance on trade, the economy, and immigration I believe are spot on. No previous presidents have had the balls to say enough is enough. Then you have CNN News sending a reporter to cover the "illegal" immigration caravan making its way to our boarder and she was reporting like this was a humanitarian issue and we were an evil empire by trying to stop this caravan. She spoke to one guy who said he was now changing his mind and not coming. The reporter, almost with a sniffle, asked why and the guy said because Trump was a bad man. So this idiot is calling Trump a "bad man" because he trying to stop an "illegal" act??
CNN News is trying their best to destroy what is left of our democracy. They are settled in on destroying this country over the possibility that Trump might do something positive and good for it. I wonder if in the future when a liberal democrat wins how quickly the theme will change and all we here is the background music of the Cowsills song, "Flowers in her hair, flowers everywhere, I love the flower girl"? I too hope that some in the conservative base will spend the time and effort to leave no stone un-turned in that administration and see how CNN then reacts.
CNN News is trying their best to destroy what is left of our democracy. They are settled in on destroying this country over the possibility that Trump might do something positive and good for it. I wonder if in the future when a liberal democrat wins how quickly the theme will change and all we here is the background music of the Cowsills song, "Flowers in her hair, flowers everywhere, I love the flower girl"? I too hope that some in the conservative base will spend the time and effort to leave no stone un-turned in that administration and see how CNN then reacts.
Last edited:
The EPA is more of a money grab than anything else imo. They play way too much politics and they seriously lack common sense regulations. Now I speak from a business/refridgerants point of view. The organization has always been a pain in the butt to deal with legitimately. They make it almost impossible for some real businesses to operate without sending them tons of money
I don't know if Mr. Priutt is a good man or not, but he's doing a phenomenal job as the head of the USEPA.
And what has he done that's so phenomenal?? Undid some Obama regs concerning clean water. Clean water is soooooo overrated. Undid Obama regs concerning mileage in cars. None of us really want to get better mileage. I mean, what the hell was Obama thinkin'. Pruitt is a F'N clown.
I was hoping for more specifcs, like which regs require you to interact with them? And how does paying them come into play? To be clear, I am genuinely interested in your perspective, not trying to quiz you or call you out.
A properly run EPA is a good thing. There are regs that cost Big Business money so they don't pollute. If they had their way they would just dump their mess out back and bury it or dump it into some river or other body of water because it's the cheapest solution. That's why the Super Fund was set up so there was money to clean up the mess that big business created. Less Regs mean more profit for them.
We have regulations now and the water coming out of my tap is filthy after the EPA and DHEC say drink up
We cannot do worse with no regulations than we are doing now with regulations
Like the dept of education needs to close
EPA needs to be made small
Obama was a lying, Muslem loving, Lib incapable of running a fvcking Taco stand. The same media libtards now lie like cheap rugs about Trump.
Trump is exactly what he promised....and that's a great thing compared to Clinton, Obamer and Bush last. Just wait you little muffleheaded morons for 2020. I realize you want Socialism...but fvck you for awhile.
Hurts don't it? AHs.
Trump is exactly what he promised....and that's a great thing compared to Clinton, Obamer and Bush last. Just wait you little muffleheaded morons for 2020. I realize you want Socialism...but fvck you for awhile.
Hurts don't it? AHs.
That's an indictment. Well, the EPA will not be joining the ACC anytime soon...
No matter who is president, we need honest people with integrity running agencies. We do not have it in this administration and Trump sycophants just point to “he’s a great administrator” so he should stay in office.
Can’t the president find another EPA administrator who doesn’t need a $43,000 cone of silence in his office? Who doesn’t need bullet proof desks in his office? Who doesn’t insist on lights and sirens on his car to go to dinner in Georgetown? Who doesn’t rent rooms in condos for $50 a night in DC from lobbyists?
Or a HUD Sec who doesn’t send business to his son? Who doesn’t need a $31,000 dining set in his office?
Or an HHS Sec who doesn’t need to fly on private planes at public expense?
Or a Treasury Sec who doesn’t ask for military planes to go on his honeymoon and travel with his chi-chi wife to Ft. Knox for the August eclipse?
Or an Interior Sec who charges the government to give a speech to the Vegas Golden Knights and flies an Interior flag when he is in his DC office? Or takes helicopters from out of town so he can go ride horses in DC?
I mean, is THAT too much to ask????
Does conservatism these days come with such privilege? That’s not the conservatism of my younger days when we would have insisted that these swamp creatures have to go.
Can’t the president find another EPA administrator who doesn’t need a $43,000 cone of silence in his office? Who doesn’t need bullet proof desks in his office? Who doesn’t insist on lights and sirens on his car to go to dinner in Georgetown? Who doesn’t rent rooms in condos for $50 a night in DC from lobbyists?
Or a HUD Sec who doesn’t send business to his son? Who doesn’t need a $31,000 dining set in his office?
Or an HHS Sec who doesn’t need to fly on private planes at public expense?
Or a Treasury Sec who doesn’t ask for military planes to go on his honeymoon and travel with his chi-chi wife to Ft. Knox for the August eclipse?
Or an Interior Sec who charges the government to give a speech to the Vegas Golden Knights and flies an Interior flag when he is in his DC office? Or takes helicopters from out of town so he can go ride horses in DC?
I mean, is THAT too much to ask????
Does conservatism these days come with such privilege? That’s not the conservatism of my younger days when we would have insisted that these swamp creatures have to go.
No. Just no. I'm not defending the EPA, but I assure you we can indeed do MUCH worse. Check out what Exxon (and other oil giants) have done in Nigeria (where there are essentially no regulations) for a reference. THAT'S what no regulation looks like. In the age we live in now, the old cliche "1 screw up > 100 good jobs" has never been more true. I assure you that the FBI, Dept of Education, the EPA, and all government agencies do thousands and thousands of things right EVERY single day. But they do screw up, just like everyone else does. They need a foot in their asses on occasion, just like everyone else.
But the "burn it down" crowd is just plain wrong. The EPA does really really important work. It's an enormous mistake to think that businesses can or should police themselves when it comes to environmental issues (again, check out Nigeria... that's what oil companies do when no one is there to make them do the right thing).
IMHO, the EPA is a broken agency. So let's fix it. Pick some good people... and by good, I mean NOT coal business men or dirty hippies with green peace tats on their dicks. REASONABLE people that know that businesses need to be able to operate AND our environment is not a dumping ground. There's a sweet spot where businesses HAVE to clean up their messes AND can still do business. We just need to find it.
Extreme right and left need to get kicked to the curb and let the adults run things.
We don't need the EPA, just like basically every other agency that "installs" redundant laws prescribed by non-elected "officials", or so-called laws that supposedly supersede the Constitution.
This country literally (recently) invented agencies of government for the sole purpose of growing government and disconnecting the "common" people from the hands at work, i.e confuse the sh*t out of them so they don't understand WTH is going on. The ONLY reason why the US could do this is because we stopped taxing people (beginning 1913) for money and borrowing it instead. It is a FACT, that if every person was taxed for each agencies role in government instead of borrowing the money to pay, we would shut all of them down tomorrow no questions asked, because we cannot afford them. The Fourth and Fifth amendments do EXACTLY what the EPA does, except much better if the law(s) were actually enforced. Why are those two amendments NOT enforced? Why do we need an agency to do the work of the Constitution? Why do we need a "regulation" to control what the law already has written in the books?
The Fourth amendment clearly states, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The applicable part of the Fifth amendment clearly states, "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"
The two bold sections of these two amendments would DEMAND clean water and air, plus everything else under the sun. Why? Because everything under the sun is your right to life, liberty and or your property, i.e. your body.
A simple solution made incredibly difficult made possible ONLY by your local representative.
We do need law enforcement. And it says so in the Constitution, except it refers to law enforcement as a "Sherriff" instead. Assuming you have noticed, a Sherriff is "elected" by the people, i.e. they run for office. A police officer is "elected" for you by your local police chief, who is also "elected" for you by your local mayor who is actually "elected" by you . I hope you understand the clear difference and the layers of bureaucracy to just hire a simple "police officer" vs. a Sherriff.
What is your point?
My point is we need the EPA and its regs because if they didn't exist the enviroment would be a disaster. Nearly all regs are over stepping their authority and are unnecessary when they directly affect "you". I understand fully well the workings of gov't so don't try to imply differently.
If you “understand fully well the workings of gov’t” you surely wouldn’t tell me “we need the EPA” now would you. Like I said previously, if you don’t enforce private property rights, no “agency” with all of their needed “regulations” is not going to be enforced either. This isn’t rocket science, no need to pretend it is either.
Last edited:
Pretty much yeah. If you say we need “regulations”, “agencies”, etc.. when we already have unenforceable laws in place, is it logical to say we need more of the EXACT same laws? And how is any of that “intellectual”, it simply seems like common sense to me.
Big one for me is water "rights" on private property. Claiming that every pond or tank on somebody's property is protected no matter how small the puddle. Freaking puddle on a farm is somehow now protected and can't do a thing (not talking about wetlands and that's anouther issuee). Stupid rules, no common sense and over reaching
