OT Is this a slant free news source

[tigrbybirth]

https://join1440.com/newsletter/7-7-2020/

It's hard to find a news source without a significant slant either left or right. The link above was recommended to me but I would like some further input from you guys on whether this one hits the mark. I've noticed that depending on your views, different people view different sources as biased or not. My best friend assures me that Fox is fair and balanced. His view is that there is no right wing source, only extreme left and center.

 

[clemsontiger02]

My best friend assures me that Fox is fair and balanced. His view is that there is no right wing source, only extreme left and center.

With all due respect, your best friend is wrong. There are self-fulfilling echo chambers on each side that do nothing but preach to the choir. Ask your friend what they consider OAN to be.

Also, the link you posted is not a news source. It's a news aggregator that collects news from various sources and compiles them in one place. But their sources seemed to be among the more legit news outlets.

 

[metalman82]

KNEWZ is another good compiler of articles from both sides of the spectrum.

www.knewz.com

 

[iceheart08]

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It's hard to find a news source without a significant slant either left or right. The link above was recommended to me but I would like some further input from you guys on whether this one hits the mark. I've noticed that depending on your views, different people view different sources as biased or not. My best friend assures me that Fox is fair and balanced. His view is that there is no right wing source, only extreme left and center.

motley fool is mostly trash, so anything they partner with I would expect a lot of: " THIS STOCK WILL BEAT AMAZON BY 4X BUT YOU HAVE TO ACT NOW. CLICK HERE TO PAY US $300 FOR THE NAME OF THIS MONSTER STOCK".

there arent news sources without slant these days so its incumbent on all of us to seek out sources of news that don't simply confirm your world view. I read the economist, NPR, financial times, and the NYT. FT and the economist view things very differently than NPR and NYT. I also try and watch tucker and hannity to make sure im not missing stuff.

 

[athigpe]

Once you accept that the news is a consumer product just like any other business, then you can accept that unless people buck human trends and prefer to read things that they don’t agree with, then all news outlets will always be slanted towards their consumer base’s leanings.

The best option is to use some of the aggregators that can pull from multiple sites. Again, these sites are still trying to make money, but at least in theory they’re catering people who at least want to be exposed to different viewpoints.

 

[Tiger1425]

If you are looking for a slant in the news you will always find it. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Most news sources just report the damn news. If you don't like the news then it's slanted.

 

[padtigers]

If you are looking for a slant in the news you will always find it. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Most news sources just report the damn news. If you don't like the news then it's slanted.

I wish the news was merely the news. Too many of the commentators have to add in their personal feelings. I have always felt the political news media s a whole thinks the US citizens are pretty dumb. Most would rather try to sway your vote than give you facts and let you decide. Admittedly I lean right but I have voted all of the spectrum. I do not tie myself down to one party but I definitely vote more on the right. I just want facts and the feeling that I am not being fed a narrative.

 

[Death-ValleyTiger]

I find apnews and Reuters to be fact based reporting that is pretty middle of the road.

 

[clemsontiger02]

If you are looking for a slant in the news you will always find it. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Most news sources just report the damn news. If you don't like the news then it's slanted.

I see your point, but I largely disagree. Take this example from just the past few days regarding the President's 4th of July speech. Same news to report, vastly different approaches by these two major outlets. I'll wager that you can guess which one is CNN and which one is Fox News without even clicking.

Trump doubles down on divisive messaging in speech to honor Independence Day

Trump gives optimistic Independence Day message, says US is ‘coming back’ after ‘terrible plague from China

 

[Willence]

As a former journalism major and pursuer of truth, it must be understood we can't take fully take our bias away from reporting. Instead, much like the rule of law, we must follow the rule of truth in that we report the truth, the ENTIRE truth and NOTHING but the truth. Journalism has lost that completely. We see reporting that buries certain aspects in favor of other narratives and that leads us to total ignorance in almost all cases. It's a series of lies, distortions and whataboutisms. The failure of our media is the biggest pillar in the crumbling structure of America. It's why we see totalitarianism on the rise at every turn. The media is the voice of these political agendas, not the voice of truth and a check on power. Until that changes, we are lost.

 

[cbm369]

Here is a website that rates sites as to which way they lean:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

 

[Willence]

I see your point, but I largely disagree. Take this example from just the past few days regarding the President's 4th of July speech. Same news to report, vastly different approaches by these two major outlets. I'll wager that you can guess which one is CNN and which one is Fox News without even clicking.

Trump doubles down on divisive messaging in speech to honor Independence Day

Trump, in fiery Mount Rushmore address, decries rise of 'far-left fascism,' calls on Americans to rise up

And people said he complained about confederate statues, etc. and he never once mentioned them. The stories I have read counted on the reader/listener not actually watching the speech and that's a shame. We can just go with the truth and let people form their own opinions. That's the job of the media.

 

[Trading Tiger]

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It's hard to find a news source without a significant slant either left or right. The link above was recommended to me but I would like some further input from you guys on whether this one hits the mark. I've noticed that depending on your views, different people view different sources as biased or not. My best friend assures me that Fox is fair and balanced. His view is that there is no right wing source, only extreme left and center.

There's no such thing as "slant free news". To be completely honest with you, "the news" went extinct a while ago. What we have now is non-fiction based entertainment. As @athigpe pointed out, the sooner everyone comes to this realization, the better for us all.

 

[Tiger1425]

I see your point, but I largely disagree. Take this example from just the past few days regarding the President's 4th of July speech. Same news to report, vastly different approaches by these two major outlets. I'll wager that you can guess which one is CNN and which one is Fox News without even clicking.

Trump doubles down on divisive messaging in speech to honor Independence Day

Trump gives optimistic Independence Day message, says US is ‘coming back’ after ‘terrible plague from China

You will please note I said "most" not all. That "most" absolutely would not include Fox News or CNN. In fact,those two would be two of the worst offenders. Don't watch those two networks. Completely bogus. Not news. Opinions.

 

[clemsontiger02]

You will please note I said "most" not all. That "most" absolutely would not include Fox News or CNN. In fact,those two would be two of the worst offenders. Don't watch those two networks. Completely bogus. Not news. Opinions.

Ok. I can agree with that. It is regrettable that these are the awful, slanted sources that are giving most people their news. And they have no idea. Even the OP of this thread stated that their best friend has no idea that Fox News is slanted. How can that even be?!?

 

[iceheart08]

Ok. I can agree with that. It is regrettable that these are the awful, slanted sources that are giving most people their news. And they have no idea. Even the OP of this thread stated that their best friend has no idea that Fox News is slanted. How can that even be?!?

There are tons of folks on this board who think fox news is "fair and balanced" and the rest are lefty bullshit. People lack self awareness and critical thought.

There are even some of the board who think OAN is a reliable and good source of news and that Fox news is now a liberal rag.

 

[fatpiggy]

I fully understand that FOX is slanted and biased. That being said I think CNN is the bottom of the barrel National enquirer type trash. CNN (and MSNBC) straight lied about Russian Collusion for 2.5 years. I haven't watched CNN or clicked on one of their links since.

 

[Tiger1425]

It is pretty well known here that I don't care for Donald Trump. But, the worst thing he has done is to get a lot of people to mistrust the news media. A free press is one of the most important aspects of a free society. To Trump any news he doesn't like is fake. "Democracy dies in darkness."

 

[nytigerfan]

https://join1440.com/newsletter/7-7-2020/

It's hard to find a news source without a significant slant either left or right. The link above was recommended to me but I would like some further input from you guys on whether this one hits the mark. I've noticed that depending on your views, different people view different sources as biased or not. My best friend assures me that Fox is fair and balanced. His view is that there is no right wing source, only extreme left and center.

It is actually fun to read this to see how differently the left and the right spin the same things.
https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

 

[fatpiggy]

It is pretty well known here that I don't care for Donald Trump. But, the worst thing he has done is to get a lot of people to mistrust the news media. A free press is one of the most important aspects of a free society. To Trump any news he doesn't like is fake. "Democracy dies in darkness."

Wait a second. How did he get a lot of people to distrust the media? The media made up Russian Collusion and tried to take him out of office. He is responsible for that?

Why should anyone trust someone that lied to them

 

[Tiger1425]

Wait a second. How did he get a lot of people to distrust the media? The media made up Russian Collusion and tried to take him out of office. He is responsible for that?

Why should anyone trust someone that lied to them

If you really believe that Russian collusion was made up then I have no words for you. The Trump campaign met with the Russians 81 times during the election. What the hell do you think they talked about? The weather...?

 

[tigrbybirth]

Wait a second. How did he get a lot of people to distrust the media? The media made up Russian Collusion and tried to take him out of office. He is responsible for that?

Why should anyone trust someone that lied to them

Distrust of the media has been brewing for some time. It's been an ongoing narrative from various pundits. Trump is the first to specifically call the media out to this degree. It's ironic given his significant support to media outlets who support and praise him.

 

[iceheart08]

Wait a second. How did he get a lot of people to distrust the media? The media made up Russian Collusion and tried to take him out of office. He is responsible for that?

Why should anyone trust someone that lied to them

ohhhh the UNBELIEVABLE irony in that last post, while you profess trust for the things this administration and president have done. just... wow.

 

[Tiger1425]

Dang it. I got sucked into arguing again. I said I wasn't going to do that ever again. Make my point and get the hell out. That is my plan. Hit and run. Next time...

 

[fatpiggy]

If you really believe that Russian collusion was made up then I have no words for you. The Trump campaign met with the Russians 81 times during the election. What the hell do you think they talked about? The weather...?

Look, we spend $40 million dollars and had the full force of the United States behind an investigation into this. The NSA knows everything and they could not come up with ANYTHING about collusion as evidenced by the Mueller report. And don't worry, the Durham report will be released this summer, we will find out what really happened.

We can say definitively there was no collusion. Period.

 

[FLaw47]

Look, we spend $40 million dollars and had the full force of the United States behind an investigation into this. The NSA knows everything and they could not come up with ANYTHING about collusion as evidenced by the Mueller report.

We can say definitively there was no collusion. Period.

If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so

 

[fatpiggy]

ohhhh the UNBELIEVABLE irony in that last post, while you profess trust for the things this administration and president have done. just... wow.

I dont implicitly trust the administration. I know Trump bloviates, trolls and is insensitive at times. But I get it. The press treats any Republican that way and they can't stand that Trump gives their shit right back to them

I wish Trump would do better, but in the current environment I think his tone is neccessary.

 

[fatpiggy]

Durham Report.

You will see.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that if there was a crime we would no about it. Yet NOTHING

 

[clemsontiger02]

We can say definitively there was no collusion. Period.

LOL. No, we can't. You, William Barr, and Donald can say that.

There is still redacted info that could shed more light on this.

 

[fatpiggy]

LOL. No, we can't. You, William Barr, and Donald can say that.

There is still redacted info that could shed more light on this.

Full power of every intelligence agency that the United States has and you guys don't even believe the report. Can't help you.

 

[Tiger1425]

I'm out... but it ain't easy.

 

[CUTiger1977]

Former CIA operative explains the Russian collusion hoax. Most liberals are too lazy to watch the whole video so that information starts around the 1 hour mark and goes on for 10 minutes. All of the information on the Collusion hoax is easy to verify if you have the time to search out the information provided by Kevin Shipp.

 

[clemsontiger02]

Full power of every intelligence agency that the United States has and you guys don't even believe the report. Can't help you.

Try and follow basic logic for one tiny second. There are parts of the report that are still redacted and classified. So, without knowing the full contents of the report, it is impossible to know "definitively" what lies therein. You may be right, but you don't know definitively. You just don't.

@Tiger1425 is the smart one. I'm following his example and bailing on a useless conversation. Have a good one.

 

[fatpiggy]

Try and follow basic logic for one tiny second. There are parts of the report that are still redacted and classified. So, without knowing the full contents of the report, it is impossible to know "definitively" what lies therein. You may be right, but you don't know definitively. You just don't.

@Tiger1425 is the smart one. I'm following his example and bailing on a useless conversation. Have a good one.

I think the Mueller and the government know definitively. If there was a crime, with the hatred towards Trump, he would have been charged. Remember, Mueller knows everything, he had the whole gamut of intelligence to look at. Or maybe Trump is that smart that he could collude an not leave a shred of evidence.

Based on the book by George Papadopolous who supposedly was the basis for the investigation, and the book by Svetlana Lokhova, Flynns supposed Russian fling .... I think the whole thing was either concocted by the CIA / FBI or Stephan Halper did a number on our own intelligence agencies. If its is Stephan Halpers lone doing, then our intelligence agencies are incompetent.

I think the Durham report will let us know what happened.

 

[iceheart08]

I dont implicitly trust the administration. I know Trump bloviates, trolls and is insensitive at times. But I get it. The press treats any Republican that way and they can't stand that Trump gives their shit right back to them

I wish Trump would do better, but in the current environment I think his tone is neccessary.

This isn't about tone. He lies. All the time. Like, constantly. And these are often objective truths he lies about. So does his administration.

So your stance is that the media lies all the time, and this you don't trust them. But you don't apply that same standard to our current president and his administration.

 

[CUTiger1977]