OT....It has been publicized that the real horrors of Obamauncaring wouldn't..

[tigerGUY]

be felt until 2017. That was an understatement. At the end of the day, I cannot keep my doctor and may as well stroke a fvcking check for the $6800 deductible(that's a cheap ass plan) because there are no benefits until then. That's a lower middle of the road plan paying $500 a month.

I can pay $900+ per month and have something somewhat better, but I can't afford it being on a fixed income. Medicare kicks in in September 2017. So here is my plan....

Fvck paying for healthcare...It's less than $1600 penalty for not buying Obamashit(that's against everything America stands for).

Fvck most of my meds until Medicare. There is med at minimal cost for my BP...but I take 3. I'll pray I don't stroke out.

I'll pray I don't have a wreck, heart attack or anything catastrophic. If something does happen and I am sent to the hospital with huge costs, good luck getting any real money out of me.

We all know how we got to this situation....and it WILL get worse. You young folks that wanted change, you got it. Better stay employed and have your employer subsidize your costs...until he say fvck it and stops providing Healthcare. You'll scream how wrong that is! But it IS what you wanted...right?

Everyone that wanted and voted for this shit...you'll get yours in the end unless this country decides against furthering this nightmare on Tuesday. Either way...it is my sincere hope that the curse for anal shingles happens to you sooner than later.

 

[bflow22]

For every 1 person it helps 20 others got screwed. Not a little either. They got blistered with higher costs. We all knew this would happen. If people didn't see this coming I don't know what to tell them. It isn't some crazy conspiracy we all worked up in an attempt to block obamacare. It's simple math and economics. Everything, and I mean everything the government touches, is run miserably in services provided and in budgeting.

 

[sloanMB]

For every 1 person it helps 20 others got screwed.

The negative impacts are being felt much sooner than the Obama regime thought they would be and, more importantly, intended for them to. They put measures in disguised as "slowly phasing ACA in" which in reality was code for by the time the general public realizes the reality of this shitshow then I will already be out of office and Hillary will hopefully already have been elected.

To quote Jonathan Gruber, one of the architects of ACA, “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. So it was written to do that. In terms of risk related subsidies, if you had a law which made explicit that healthy people pay in and sick people get money it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to get the thing to pass.”

 

[chassc]

If any of you are thinking about suggesting that there is an intended outcome to this, be warned that you will be told to stop watching Fox News and listening to Limbaugh.

 

[Emergence]

Hilligula proposes that we stay on 0bumbler's grand plan to turn the USA into a northern version of Venezuela. "Fundamental transformation", right on schedule.

 

[amynhop]

GO TRUMP!!! GO TRUMP!!! GO TRUMP!!!!!
Remember to set your clocks back Saturday and take your country back Tuesday!
TRUMP2016!!!!!

 

[toolucky52384]

be felt until 2017. That was an understatement. At the end of the day, I cannot keep my doctor and may as well stroke a fvcking check for the $6800 deductible(that's a cheap ass plan) because there are no benefits until then. That's a lower middle of the road plan paying $500 a month.

I can pay $900+ per month and have something somewhat better, but I can't afford it being on a fixed income. Medicare kicks in in September 2017. So here is my plan....

Fvck paying for healthcare...It's less than $1600 penalty for not buying Obamashit(that's against everything America stands for).

Fvck most of my meds until Medicare. There is med at minimal cost for my BP...but I take 3. I'll pray I don't stroke out.

I'll pray I don't have a wreck, heart attack or anything catastrophic. If something does happen and I am sent to the hospital with huge costs, good luck getting any real money out of me.

We all know how we got to this situation....and it WILL get worse. You young folks that wanted change, you got it. Better stay employed and have your employer subsidize your costs...until he say fvck it and stops providing Healthcare. You'll scream how wrong that is! But it IS what you wanted...right?

Everyone that wanted and voted for this shit...you'll get yours in the end unless this country decides against furthering this nightmare on Tuesday. Either way...it is my sincere hope that the curse for anal shingles happens to you sooner than later.

voted against obama twice but i do have to ask, under the prior arrangement wouldn't insurance companies have been able to outright refuse you coverage based on your age?

 

[tigerGUY]

voted against obama twice but i do have to ask, under the prior arrangement wouldn't insurance companies have been able to outright refuse you coverage based on your age?

Not no...but HELL no. Pre-existing? Yes. Race, age, yada, yada,yada...Hell no.

 

[toolucky52384]

Not no...but HELL no. Pre-existing? Yes. Race, age, yada, yada,yada...Hell no.

OK, but past 50 doesn't everyone practically have some deniable pre existing condition?

 

[tigerGUY]

OK, but past 50 doesn't everyone practically have some deniable pre existing condition?

(SMILING) What's your real fvcking question/point? Making the UnGodlyunaffordable Care Act a positive? You're young and subsidized by your Employer?

You've never built and owned a company where YOUR ass was responsible for people's lives...nay...FAMILY'S lives. Have you? Where the fvcking Feds make Regs impossible to even exist and build jobs?

The Feds have killed this country. Actually...politicians from both sides that suck us dry and allow them an Elitist life have. Ever wondered how these fvcking cocksvckers made it rich with little wealth?

Just vote for Clinton and the status quo. Or look through the Liberal Owned media that tells you what to believe. THINK! Think FOR YOURSELF. Think about reality and status quo.

 

[toolucky52384]

(SMILING) What's your real fvcking question/point? Making the UnGodlyunaffordable Care Act a positive? You're young and subsidized by your Employer?

You've never built and owned a company where YOUR ass was responsible for people's lives...nay...FAMILY'S lives. Have you? Where the fvcking Feds make Regs impossible to even exist and build jobs?

The Feds have killed this country. Actually...politicians from both sides that suck us dry and allow them an Elitist life have. Ever wondered how these fvcking cocksvckers made it rich with little wealth?

Just vote for Clinton and the status quo. Or look through the Liberal Owned media that tells you what to believe. THINK! Think FOR YOURSELF. Think about reality and status quo.

I think there are necessary elements of the ACA and that if the penalties were high enough to encourage young people to have health insurance the law would provide a net positive to society. You are correct, I've never desired the task of owning a business, I've found it quite easy to build wealth and live a comfortable life by performing tasks at others risks (and they fairly reap the majority of rewards of my good works), I've long defended entrepreneurs as the lifeblood of our country and have voted for a single Democrat in my life as a result, (Kerry, because I lost all confidence in Bush). I do however reject the notion that all government is bad, and that the government has no place in establishing an economic model. I think the ACA is flawed and I think we had a very flawed system prior to the ACA. Health care costs were rising, job mobility was stifled, and more Americans lacked health insurance causing federally subsidized emergency room treatments. I have a general annoyance with those who claim all solutions are flawed without seeing the status quo is also flawed. I agree with you, both parties have screwed the country over, I however trend towards believing they've done so by prioritizing the politicising of their differences over their willingness to compromise on common ground, there are plenty of problems that have plenty of room for solving that neither side will address because the special interests don't want it. Infrastructure, entitlement reform, immigration reform, etc. Peace and goodnight.