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OT: So Hillary wants to make DC the 51st state

Either grant DC federal representation or exempt them from federal income taxes and remove their budget from the hands of Congress.

You can believe whatever it is you want of course. But to say this is not a political move with a design on increasing Democratic representation in the Congress would be to ignore all reality. Unfortunately we've reached the point where almost anything that is done is about politics not about what's best for our country.
 
You can believe whatever it is you want of course. But to say this is not a political move with a design on increasing Democratic representation in the Congress would be to ignore all reality. Unfortunately we've reached the point where almost anything that is done is about politics not about what's best for our country.

i have yet to hear anything that miss clinton has done thats added value to the united states

as a first lady?

as a senator?

and as a secretary?

all i know is all of the fukk ups.

can anyone who supports that moron and thief come up with anything of value she has to offer?
 
I don't give 2 shits about Hillary or Trump but I think its stupid that DC isn't a state and has no representation in Congress.
 
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You're right, we should keep political representation away from people because they might not agree with you.
Or maybe we should follow the wishes of the founders and not allow anyone state to have the seat of the government. That is why they created DC afterall. Despite what liberals want to believe the founders did know what they were doing.
 
i have yet to hear anything that miss clinton has done thats added value to the united states

as a first lady?

as a senator?

and as a secretary?

all i know is all of the fukk ups.

can anyone who supports that moron and thief come up with anything of value she has to offer?

Don't underestimate her gift of the red RESET button to the Russians - that was diplomatic brilliance.
 
^^^^^has not read the Constitution
Don't care about either candidate. Just wanted to clarify that the Constitution states that 10 square miles are to be used as the seat of the Government for the US. The District is now 68.34 square miles, which is down from its 100 sm when part of Arlington and Alexandria, VA. I understand the political perspective of each side though and it has been a political football for years.
 
Don't care about either candidate. Just wanted to clarify that the Constitution states that 10 square miles are to be used as the seat of the Government for the US. The District is now 68.34 square miles, which is down from its 100 sm when part of Arlington and Alexandria, VA. I understand the political perspective of each side though and it has been a political football for years.

And 672,000 people. More citizens than Wyoming and Vermont.
 
^^^^^^Still thinks black people count as 3/5 of a person

Hopefully just a moronic troll. Never understood trolling fellow Clemson people though. If you actually believe it, you're just being an idiot. This kind of argument sure needs to die. I can't believe people are still trying to make this idiotic statements in 2016. Progressive should be renamed Regressive because they just can't get out of the past and move forward...
 
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Sure, I'd be for that, as long as the Eastern Shore of Maryland was allowed to secede from the State and form their own State.

That will balance it out

This seems fair. It's hilarious how diferent the political views are in MD once you get outside 695.
 
Hopefully just a moronic troll. Never understood trolling fellow Clemson people though. If you actually believe it, you're just being an idiot. This kind of argument sure needs to die. I can't believe people are still trying to make this idiotic statements in 2016. Progressive should be renamed Regressive because they just can't get out of the past and move forward...
Because people like you that think the Constitution is set in stone and is not a living document. You cant have it both ways. Point being, the founders were not perfect, and there are things in the Constitution that dont make sense (like making a black person count as 3/5 of a person) and others that they couldn't have envisioned (like automatic rifles). Common sense should have a seat at the table when interpreting the Constitution - which I know you will immediately refute.
 
Because people like you that think the Constitution is set in stone and is not a living document. You cant have it both ways. Point being, the founders were not perfect, and there are things in the Constitution that dont make sense (like making a black person count as 3/5 of a person) and others that they couldn't have envisioned (like automatic rifles). Common sense should have a seat at the table when interpreting the Constitution - which I know you will immediately refute.

Oh you are wrong here in so many ways. The Constitution is not a living document. It is a legal document. It is the basis for governance of a nation. What part do you miss here? Within this legal, governing document is a process for amendment. We have used this process 27 times in attempts to better our nation. This is how it is supposed to work. The Constitution meant what it meant when they authored and ratified it. It didn't mean what you want it to say now based on your political agenda. How is that so hard to understand? If you want it to say something else, go make a damn argument about what you want to change. Then, win the argument and set about the already outlined process of amending the Constitution. The issue is you can't do that so you'd rather re-invent what it says, turn it into a living, emotional document and then go about turning everything upside down. Doesn't work that way. If you could win the argument to start with, then you could alter the document. It would change and still be a legal, governing document.

This process isn't designed to stop change or stop progress. It's designed to force us as a nation to change...to evolve into a more perfect union. It is a great thing. Just look at all the ways we have worked as a people to create a more just and equal nation with the previous 27 amendments to the Constitution. It's a beautiful process and it facilitates growth in a nation. It isn't meant to bring about division. That's what the present process on the right and left is doing. That's why our Founding Fathers were so wise in their vision for this nation. It would all work so much better if we'd just follow it!

This living document bullshit is a really pathetic argument to make. It is nothing but that... and we don't interpret the Constitution. We follow it and we are governed by it. There's nothing there to interpret. To liberals, interpret is a way of saying they can change the meaning by twisting words without actually having to win a damn argument. Not happening here. Sell stupid somewhere else my friend.
 
Because people like you that think the Constitution is set in stone and is not a living document. You cant have it both ways. Point being, the founders were not perfect, and there are things in the Constitution that dont make sense (like making a black person count as 3/5 of a person) and others that they couldn't have envisioned (like automatic rifles). Common sense should have a seat at the table when interpreting the Constitution - which I know you will immediately refute.
The Constitution is not a living document except through the amendment process. If you want DC to be a state, amend the Constitution. Having the supreme law of the land be a "living document" renders it meaningless. If you really like having rules be pliable, let's you/me play poker and I will decide after each hand is dealt what the rules should be.

The reason the left wants the Constitution to be a "living document" is so they can have their idiocy implemented through judges rather than the political process.
 
Because people like you that think the Constitution is set in stone and is not a living document. You cant have it both ways. Point being, the founders were not perfect, and there are things in the Constitution that dont make sense (like making a black person count as 3/5 of a person) and others that they couldn't have envisioned (like automatic rifles). Common sense should have a seat at the table when interpreting the Constitution - which I know you will immediately refute.
The Constitution is a legal contract, legal contracts are not living documents. It really is this simple.
 
I like that Hillary is proposing free college tuition to illegal immigrants. That is so nice of her.
 
Again, you're post about wanting prison time for mean twittering has to have the poll position. I'd probably have to change my handle after saying something like that.

You are really butthurt about that one huh? And change your handle? I guess the interwebz are serious business for you.
 
I love that there are so many conlaw scholars on the board.

Constitution - no interpretation needed.

we don't even need the judicial branch right?
 
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