OT: Trump Corruption Update - VA Secretary Needs to be Fired. Now.

[kgwillison]

OK, supporters of President Trump, justify these actions. This is quite a Cabinet Trump has assembled.

EPA head thinks he needs first class and military planes due to security concerns.
Treasury Sec. wanted government plane for his honeymoon.
Former HHS Sec. used private jets for his business travel.
Now wife of VA Sec. has trip to Europe paid by taxpayers and secretary accepts tickets to Wimbledon.

http://wapo.st/2Clcutr

 

[poates6]

Bro, you supported Obama and Hillary and all their corruption. I didn’t want Trump but I think this is the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[tiger1995]

Thread will be zapped in 3...2...1....

 

[Florida Tiger]

You mention corruption and tax dollars spent on vacations during Trumps time in office you must be highly pissed about the Obama/Clinton era.

 

[kgwillison]

You mention corruption and tax dollars spent on vacations during Trumps time in office you must be highly pissed about the Obama/Clinton era.

Obama was in office for 8 years and played fewer rounds of golf than Donald "I will be too busy being president to play golf" Trump played in 1 year.

One year.

And find me instances of cabinet secretary corruption or stunning misuse of taxpayer dollars under Obama.

Honestly, can you defend these practices of Trump officials?

 

[Florida Tiger]

Obama was in office for 8 years and played fewer rounds of golf than Donald "I will be too busy being president to play golf" Trump played in 1 year.

One year.

And find me instances of cabinet secretary corruption or stunning misuse of taxpayer dollars under Obama.

Honestly, can you defend these practices of Trump officials?

Wow
I didnt know had inside info...
Please continue?

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

Obama was in office for 8 years and played fewer rounds of golf than Donald "I will be too busy being president to play golf" Trump played in 1 year.

One year.

And find me instances of cabinet secretary corruption or stunning misuse of taxpayer dollars under Obama.

Honestly, can you defend these practices of Trump officials?

This president has brought out the lefty crazies and turned normal lefties into miserable people.

How about the waste of money on this collusion investigation? Does that bug you too?

 

[kgwillison]

This president has brought out the lefty crazies and turned normal lefties into miserable people.

How about the waste of money on this collusion investigation? Does that bug you too?

So you really aren't bothered by all of the chicanery I mentioned that has happened in the first year of this administration?

As for the investigation, Mueller today indicted quite a number of Russians for trying to influence the election. That's what this investigation is about. And Trump fails to understand that. It really ISN'T all about him. It is all about the Russians having a strong interest - and acting on that interest by trying to provide information about Trump's opponent - in impacting our presidential elections.

Let's wait to see exactly what the Mueller investigation discovers. We've already seen guilty pleas from some.

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

So you really aren't bothered by all of the chicanery I mentioned that has happened in the first year of this administration?

As for the investigation, Mueller today indicted quite a number of Russians for trying to influence the election. That's what this investigation is about. And Trump fails to understand that. It really ISN'T all about him. It is all about the Russians having a strong interest - and acting on that interest by trying to provide information about Trump's opponent - in impacting our presidential elections.

Let's wait to see exactly what the Mueller investigation discovers. We've already seen guilty pleas from some.

I think you're missing the point. You're acting like this is the first time our over-bloated, over spending, grossly mismanaged, tax payer funded government has been responsible for fraud, waste and abuse? Mr Neely says hello.

The difference is you are biased and can't admit to just how bad obama was. Trump's economy has record low unemployment, record high consumer confidence, record high median income, record high home ownership, over 5 trillion in wealth created in the stock market, and billions being repatriated back into the US by corporations.

Did you know 92 of the top 100 wealthiest companies are from the US? = Capitalism works, government sucks.

Also, you don't really think the Russians give a shit about an indictment do you? Are those 13 dudes going to show up in a court stateside? And you think the American people were waiting for an indictment of the Russians? you have gone crazy buddy.

The only people colluding with the Russians was your beloved democratic party. paying for a dossier and then using that in a FISA court? you're biased my man. I may not be able to help you with facts

 

[kgwillison]

Wait. Record high home ownership? Sorry man you are way way off on this. I am in the housing industry and as a nation homeownership has been on a decline for several years. It was too high for certain before but we are not at record high homeownership. Go check your facts.

Oh, and I am a capitalist. Been in the private sector all but a couple years of my 40+-year career.

As for the indictments, no the Russians will not be showing up in our courts. It is a message to the president that the Russians were serious about meddling. The previous administration missed the boat too. Clearly. But this administration doesn’t want to admit that Russia tried to influence the elections because Trump thinks that discredits his election. It doesn’t. But st least make an effort to stop future action by the Russians. He has not asked the FBI or NSA to stop it from happening again. That’s malfeasance.

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

Wait. Record high home ownership? Sorry man you are way way off on this. I am in the housing industry and as a nation homeownership has been on a decline for several years. It was too high for certain before but we are not at record high homeownership. Go check your facts.

Oh, and I am a capitalist. Been in the private sector all but a couple years of my 40+-year career.

As for the indictments, no the Russians will not be showing up in our courts. It is a message to the president that the Russians were serious about meddling. The previous administration missed the boat too. Clearly. But this administration doesn’t want to admit that Russia tried to influence the elections because Trump thinks that discredits his election. It doesn’t. But st least make an effort to stop future action by the Russians. He has not asked the FBI or NSA to stop it from happening again. That’s malfeasance.

I put that fun fact in there because I knew your argument would disregard everything else I wrote and focus on "fact checking".

Why didn't you address any of the other amazing things that have happened in the last 12 months? And please don't tell people you have been waiting for 13 months for "an indictment of random Russian losers"

Is this the first presidential race that the Russians have tried to influence? What do you want Trump to do? Another reset?

Just be honest, did you vote for Hillary?

 

[kgwillison]

I voted against Trump and Clinton was the only choice I had. What I’ve seen out of the White House convinces me that my choice was right for me.

The president’s values are not my values. His cabinet’s values don’t reflect my values.

The economy began its growth once the housing crisis passed. It has been on a steady rise since mid term of the previous presidency. But trade wars won’t help keep that going.

And go ahead and pretend that what the Russians did is unimportant.

Let me guess. You live in a rural part of the country?

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

I voted against Trump and Clinton was the only choice I had. What I’ve seen out of the White House convinces me

1. that my choice was right for me.

The

2. president’s values are not my values. His cabinet’s values don’t reflect my values.

The

3. economy began its growth once the housing crisis passed.

It has been on a steady rise since mid term of the previous presidency. But trade wars won’t help keep that going.

And go ahead and pretend that what the

4. Russians did is unimportant.

Let me guess. You live in a rural part of the country?

1. What was right for you was dead wrong for our country

2. Your values are subjective and meaningless to everyone else who isn't in a college classroom, or on a hollywood set

3. obama-- the first president in US history who blamed the president before him for his terrible 8 years and then took credit for the president who followed him. pretty amazing

4. As a hillary supporter, time to look in the mirror.

Let me guess, you didn't serve in the military while our country was in two different wars.

 

[dpatterson85]

Obama was in office for 8 years and played fewer rounds of golf than Donald "I will be too busy being president to play golf" Trump played in 1 year.

One year.

And find me instances of cabinet secretary corruption or stunning misuse of taxpayer dollars under Obama.

Honestly, can you defend these practices of Trump officials?

http://www.golfchannel.com/article/golf-central-blog/obamas-final-tally-333-rounds-golf-potus/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...plays-more-golf-donald-trump-or-barack-obama/

Trump played 44 rounds of golf this past year. President Obama played 333 rounds of golf over eight years. Trump did not surpass the number of rounds of golf last year that Obama did over 8 years. Is he on pace to surpass Obama? Yep, but it would require him to be reelected and be in office over 7 &1/2 years. Is it a bit hypocritical of Trump? Yep, but probably not to the crazy sounding levels of hypocrisy your post made it sound like. Currently he's averaging 3 rounds of golf more per year than Obama averaged while he was in office (granted Obama didn't play as much his first year in), nothing to blow a gasket about.

 

[nytigerfan]

1. What was right for you was dead wrong for our country

2. Your values are subjective and meaningless to everyone else who isn't in a college classroom, or on a hollywood set

3. obama-- the first president in US history who blamed the president before him for his terrible 8 years and then took credit for the president who followed him. pretty amazing

4. As a hillary supporter, time to look in the mirror.

Let me guess, you didn't serve in the military while our country was in two different wars.

товарищ, мать россияна ценит вашу постоянную поддержку.

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

товарищ, мать россияна ценит вашу постоянную поддержку.

I can't even imagine your level of depression with how powerless you and your weirdo friends feel right now.

more gun laws= you lose
illegal aliens= you lose
higher taxes= you lose
russian collusion= you lose
government dependence i.e. food stamps & black unemployment= you lose
obamacare= you lose
isis caliphate= you lose

This president has you typing in russian= ты проиграл

 

[kgwillison]

1. What was right for you was dead wrong for our country

2. Your values are subjective and meaningless to everyone else who isn't in a college classroom, or on a hollywood set

3. obama-- the first president in US history who blamed the president before him for his terrible 8 years and then took credit for the president who followed him. pretty amazing

4. As a hillary supporter, time to look in the mirror.

Let me guess, you didn't serve in the military while our country was in two different wars.

I’m 61. Which war(s) should I have served in?

As for Trump, his days are numbered.

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

I’m 61. Which war(s) should I have served in?

As for Trump, his days are numbered.

 

[FLaw47]

Yeah, but he was Prime Minister of a country that had already established single player/single provider healthcare. The UK's Liberal/Conservative spectrum doesn't have the same center as ours.

Edit: Also, who cares?

 

[nytigerfan]

Churchill never said that, it is a bullshit quote just like you are a bullshit person. FAKE NEWS

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

Yeah, but he was Prime Minister of a country that had already established single player/single provider healthcare. The UK's Liberal/Conservative spectrum doesn't have the same center as ours.

Edit: Also, who cares?

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

Churchill never said that, it is a bullshit quote just like you are a bullshit person. FAKE NEWS

 

[blythewood tigers]

" The difference is you are biased and can't admit to just how bad obama was. Trump's economy has record low unemployment, record high consumer confidence, record high median income, record high home ownership, over 5 trillion in wealth created in the stock market, and billions being repatriated back into the US by corporations.

Did you know 92 of the top 100 wealthiest companies are from the US? = Capitalism works, government sucks."

To make the claim that a "Trump economy" is somehow better than an Obama economy is simply lazy economic/financial investigative work on your part. Point is, both suck. The more important point is, it doesn't matter who is the potus because the course is set by economic law, not some dip sh*t for president. And, the most important point (not a guess) is, the next 4 years after this idiot will be even worse. Both of you bicker back and forth about politics as if one of you is "right" and the other is "wrong" and more or less politics is the solution. Politics is not the answer, the one thing I do agree with you on is capitalism does work, but we are so far from it, the vast majority (I would include you from your post) have no idea what it resembles anymore.