OT - Why I really hate when the government designs something.......

[CU Alumnus]

I get that the EPA is an organization that theoretically fills a need. We do need to protect the environment. 100% agree. Same with OSHA and some of the other safety organizations.

BUT.......

I believe at least one of them is responsible for this abomination:

The can is fine, but the spout..........who in the ever-loving crap thought THAT was a good idea? It glugs like crazy, takes forever to fill anything, and takes three hands to use. PLUS you spill gas all over the place trying to use it. I finally just started taking the damn spout off and pouring from the neck into a big-ass funnel. It's not so bad on a one-gallon can but on a 5-gallon one, forget it.

Fortunately there are companies making retrofit kits to put these like the old style cans. Once my area gets stabilized and we can reliably get deliveries again (we got hit right in the teeth by the tornado) I'm having at least one of those.

 

[SCSportsman]

I’ve spilled far more gas using these newer designs than I ever did using the old school version with the vents.

 

[Ron Munson]

These things are an abomination and further proof the federal government has no clue what they are doing.

I buy the conversion kits at Tractor Supply for all my Save the World gas cans.

 

[LVC11]

I get that the EPA is an organization that theoretically fills a need. We do need to protect the environment. 100% agree. Same with OSHA and some of the other safety organizations.

BUT.......

I believe at least one of them is responsible for this abomination:

The can is fine, but the spout..........who in the ever-loving crap thought THAT was a good idea? It glugs like crazy, takes forever to fill anything, and takes three hands to use. PLUS you spill gas all over the place trying to use it. I finally just started taking the damn spout off and pouring from the neck into a big-ass funnel. It's not so bad on a one-gallon can but on a 5-gallon one, forget it.

Fortunately there are companies making retrofit kits to put these like the old style cans. Once my area gets stabilized and we can reliably get deliveries again (we got hit right in the teeth by the tornado) I'm having at least one of those.

I am the proud owner for 4 "old school" gas cans and they are my prized possessions.

 

[Daytontiger]

I finally just started taking the damn spout off and pouring from the neck into a big-ass funnel. It's not so bad on a one-gallon can but on a 5-gallon one, forget it.

I do this. If someone can actually teach me how to use the "regular" top, maybe I'd use it. But I feel like an old man who can't remove a child-proof lid off the Tylenol when I try to use it, so I gave up and old-school it.

--Mr. DT

 

[padtigers]

Hell I grew up with my Dad using milk jugs as gas cans. We never spilled as much gas as I do now with the "improved" models. I would bet that the person that invented these could not start a pull start anything.

 

[BionicTiger]

These are what you need.

 

[harristeeter]

I liked everyone’s post. Just was telling my son Saturday how much these new “modern” cans SUCK!

Loved the old metal cans. NEVER spilled any gas/diesel and they lasted forever!!

 

[CU1TruTiger4Life]

Those can were designed by a liberal nancy who never has to use one.

I would rather wipe with sand paper than try and fill up my zero turn with that garbage.

 

[CU Alumnus]

These things are an abomination and further proof the federal government has no clue what they are doing.

I buy the conversion kits at Tractor Supply for all my Save the World gas cans.

Just ordered one.

My older can is a "save the world" can but it vents through the spout somehow (no stupid trigger setup to open it) so it's not so bad. But this newest one is an absolute piece of crap.

 

[rabooze]

I just screw it off and pour directly from the can. You can do it with a 1 gallon and not spill. Just take your time.

 

[Every name taken]

Amazon has the conversion kits. They are for “water cans”. It includes a vent and a regular spout

 

[BarnwellTiger]

This thread has made me feel better about myself relative to using this gas container. I figured there was a correct way to use it without the issues many have cited. I have been taking the pour spout off completely and pouring into a funnel placed in my equipment, with an old rag under the container to catch the drippings.

 

[CU Alumnus]

This thread has made me feel better about myself relative to using this gas container. I figured there was a correct way to use it without the issues many have cited. I have been taking the pour spout off completely and pouring into a funnel placed in my equipment, with an old rag under the container to catch the drippings.

One thing I have is a big-ass funnel. I could wear it for a hat if I wanted to. I think it will hold at least a quart.

It's about 10 inches in diameter at the top I think.

 

[BrettHovis]

I call them Obama cans. Go to Northern Tool and spend $80 on a metal can and you will never have to buy another gas can in your life!

 

[scott in nashville]

These things are an abomination and further proof the federal government has no clue what they are doing.

I buy the conversion kits at Tractor Supply for all my Save the World gas cans.

I thought you lived in a condo? Got a contract to mow the lawn for a side hustle?

 

[mccadoyle]

This can is great. Think it meets the standards but it's very simple. Push the button and it comes out. Good flow. I've been happy with it and had it for a few years.

Amazon product ASIN B000W72GBC

 

[Ron Munson]

I thought you lived in a condo? Got a contract to mow the lawn for a side hustle?

I had a house before I moved, so all my stuff is stored. I have about 8 or so of the old cans. You can find them on the side of the road all the time where they blow out of trucks.

I coverted all my dad's cans last year as well.

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

Damn some of you folks will bitch about anything.

 

[WinstonW101]

Whoever designed that along with whoever mandated them needs their ass whipped severely & more than once .

 

[UNSWERVINGLY]

Seriously... Is there ANYone that likes them and thinks they're easy to use?

If so I'd like to hear....

Because I thought I was in the minority and just didn't know what I was doing.

This guy gets it.

 

[DHTiger06]

Seeing a picture of these gas cans is like seeing a box score where Etienne only had 5 carries, the job may be done, but doesn’t mean I am not pissed off about how it was done.

 

[CU Alumnus]

Seriously... Is there ANYone that likes them and thinks they're easy to use?

If so I'd like to hear....

Because I thought I was in the minority and just didn't know what I was doing.

This guy gets it.

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The second one he shows sucks too, but it's not as bad so I can tolerate it.

 

[sloanMB]

This can is great. Think it meets the standards but it's very simple. Push the button and it comes out. Good flow. I've been happy with it and had it for a few years.

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This is a great can I bought after giving up on 3 of the Obama cans. Whoever is responsible for mandating the cans in OP's post should be exiled to Iran and should owe American taxpayers back every penny they wasted on this.

 

[BHSRebels89]

OP is pissed he threw two of these away on the way to the hardware store to buy the "new and improved" can.

 

[nsp1996]

Damn some of you folks will bitch about anything.

There is something worthwhile to bitch about it is this.

Leave it to the government to mandate something that is more complicated, costs more to make, is harder to use, and spills more gas on yourself, the thing that you are trying to fuel and the ground.

It takes a special kind of genius to do this. And I do mean, "special".

 

[Rychek4]

If there is something worthwhile to bitch about it is this.

Leave it to the government to mandate something that is more complicated, costs more to make, is harder to use, and spills more gas on yourself, the thing that you are trying to fuel and the ground.

It takes a special kind of genius to do this. And I do mean, "special".

Laws and regs are often written by companies. Would Gas companies do the math to calculate how many gallons of gas would be wasted and need to be replaced by bad nozzles? I bet you they would.

 

[nsp1996]

Laws and regs are often written by companies. Would Gas companies do the math to calculate how many gallons of gas would be wasted and need to be replaced by bad nozzles? I bet you they would.

Yes they would. And so now we know how we got the jacked up gas can we have today.

 

[CU Alumnus]

Damn some of you folks will bitch about anything.

Rely on a generator for a week for power and have to use one of those damn things a few times a day, and you'll understand why I'm bitching.

OP is pissed he threw two of these away on the way to the hardware store to buy the "new and improved" can.

That can is probably older than I am. But I do wish I had some older metal cans - if I could find them without rust.

Laws and regs are often written by companies. Would Gas companies do the math to calculate how many gallons of gas would be wasted and need to be replaced by bad nozzles? I bet you they would.

One would think that someone in the government would see through the smoke and BS and call these companies out on this kind of thing. Understand they are being taken for a ride and that they are being used to inflate profit margins through legislation.

They can't stop the companies from making this crap, but they could refuse to mandate it.

 

[Rychek4]

Yes they would. And so now we know how we got the jacked up gas can we have today.

Totally agree. Tollison, a professor that spent a lot of time at Clemson, was a pioneer of rent seeking, and was part of a nobel prize in economics. Not challenging your post. We agree.

Truth is... I don't know the answer.

 

[Rychek4]

One would think that someone in the government would see through the smoke and BS and call these companies out on this kind of thing.

Would we?

 

[nsp1996]

Totally agree. Tollison, a professor that spent a lot of time at Clemson, was a pioneer of rent seeking, and was part of a nobel prize in economics. Not challenging your post. We agree.

Truth is... I don't know the answer.

Oh, I don't know either. Anyone's guess is as good as another!

 

[CU Alumnus]

Would we?

I would with my wallet, if I had other options. If you know what you're looking for you can spot the BS. I couldn't necessarily spot the mandated 'safety' garbage on an iPhone for instance, but I could in the field I work in.

But it goes deeper than that. I know of an outdoor products company that was sued because of the language in one of their warnings, by a lawyer who had never even purchased one of their products. He saw the language, saw the opportunity, and sued the company. I think Blitz Gas Cans is going through something similar. Apparently their cans explode if you use them to pour gasoline on an open fire.

Who knew?

It sucks because Blitz has been in business since before WWII and made a damn good gas can. My 'doesn't suck as much' can was made by them. But even it has mandated garbage in it (the vent is through the nozzle, not separate, which fvcks up the gas flow).

 

[nsp1996]

Apparently their cans explode if you use them to pour gasoline on an open fire.

Who knew?

Every one knows. Or, should know. But that doesn't stop people from doing what they think is best at the time. 'Murica!

I remember as a little kid (grade school) in the '70's .. I was helping my dad while he pruned trees to get rid of bag worms. We took the branches with the worms out in to the freshly disked farmers field next to our house.

He piled them up put some gas on them from a 1gal metal can (without the idiotic safety nozzle) and lit them on fire. Needless to say it wasn't burning enough so he poured more on.

While he was doing that the fire climed up the stream of new gas and the now almost empty, but full of vapors, gas can exploded in his hand, blowing out one side.

Dad played it off like a good dad should. No big deal.

I remembered that lesson when I shot the tip of my own thumb off in front of my son, while shooting a crossbow. However I have my dad beat, because he didn't have a cool blood-spatter pattern over everything and we never had to take him to the hospital.

 

[CU Alumnus]

Every one knows. Or, should know. But that doesn't stop people from doing what they think is best at the time. 'Murica!

I remember as a little kid (grade school) in the '70's .. I was helping my dad while he pruned trees to get rid of bag worms. We took the branches with the worms out in to the freshly disked farmers field next to our house.

He piled them up put some gas on them from a 1gal metal can (without the idiotic safety nozzle) and lit them on fire. Needless to say it wasn't burning enough so he poured more on.

While he was doing that the fire climed up the stream of new gas and the now almost empty, but full of vapors, gas can exploded in his hand, blowing out one side.

Dad played it off like a good dad should. No big deal.

I remembered that lesson when I shot the tip of my own thumb off in front of my son, while shooting a crossbow. However I have my dad beat, because he didn't have a cool blood-spatter pattern over everything and we never had to take him to the hospital.

Trick is to use a squeeze bottle of lighter fluid (aka Kerosene I think) and do it in a burst pattern so there's no "trail" for the fire to climb.

 

[clempzenbill]

I get that the EPA is an organization that theoretically fills a need. We do need to protect the environment. 100% agree. Same with OSHA and some of the other safety organizations.

BUT.......

I believe at least one of them is responsible for this abomination:

The can is fine, but the spout..........who in the ever-loving crap thought THAT was a good idea? It glugs like crazy, takes forever to fill anything, and takes three hands to use. PLUS you spill gas all over the place trying to use it. I finally just started taking the damn spout off and pouring from the neck into a big-ass funnel. It's not so bad on a one-gallon can but on a 5-gallon one, forget it.

Fortunately there are companies making retrofit kits to put these like the old style cans. Once my area gets stabilized and we can reliably get deliveries again (we got hit right in the teeth by the tornado) I'm having at least one of those.

A big ass drill bit and a cork from a wine bottle are my fix for these P.O.S. nanny state jokes.