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Likewise seeing a robust rebirth of our Covid ICU and the number of Covid positive patients in the hospital. Almost all unvaccinated. Recently intubated a 30 year old with respiratory failure who is Covid positive and was unvaccinated. I could go on and on. But I have to admit I'm getting to the point of no longer caring if the unvaccinated ever get vaccinated and i hate feeling that way. I do believe in the freedom to make choices about your body yourself and find it hard to support vaccination mandates. 96% of physicians in the United States are vaccinated. Find anything else that 96% of physicians would agree on lol!!
Are stats being kept on first time COVID patient vs repeat COVID case? Or just vaccinated vs unvaccinated?
 
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Interesting...my hospital is similar to what others are seeing...90 of 92 patients were unvaccinated
Ill ask you the same question. Is first time COVID patient vs second time being tracked as well, or just vaccinated vs unvaccinated?
 
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So everything I’m hearing and reading now says that the vax doesn’t stop the spread of the virus, but only lessons the symptoms. Also, that the first shot doesn’t work and you have to get a booster. But a large group of people that I know that are vaccinated have gotten the virus again and are not doing well. Some in the hospital. But myself, who isn’t vaccinated, has the antibodies, is the dumb one. Got it!
There’s how many doctors in this thread telling you otherwise but lets ignore them.

Youve got it all figured out.
 
I still havent been given an explanation of why I should get a vaccine for something that has a 99% survival rate? Half of all deaths are people aged 75+. 2/3 of deaths are aged 65+.

Cant find any data on folks who passed who had comorbidities but my guess it’s substantial.
Yeah I keep asking my wife after every shift she has Covid patients about the actual health of those patients. There’s very much a recurring theme.

People who are overweight or have a pre-existing condition are the overwhelming majority of her Covid patients. Yes we hear about the number of Covid positives all the time, but we rarely hear the actual health of those individuals.

She also has stated repeatedly how quickly the healthy patients bounce back. So as much bickering that goes on all I wish is that ALL the information would be given. NOT just the number of people that have it. You’d think everyone from both sides of the vaccination aisle would want that.

The great news is Dr Gottlieb said earlier this week that we are in “the final wave” of Covid. Glad we’re coming to the end of this so we can get back to our normal lives and people can find something else to argue about.
 
If what is true today is based on scientific fact, it will be true tomorrow. Science, nor truth changes. You can have variables/inputs change that result in a different outcome based on a scientific principle. That does not mean the science changed. It means the one of the variables in the principle/formula changed.

There is a difference in scientists/CDC saying "this is what we believe based on the information we have now" vs "this is what has been PROVEN through scientific study/experiments". It seems like our best guess is too often being referred to as "science" and presented as fact/truth - even though it is unproven. We are not going to wake up next week and realize gravity no longer exists. Gravity is scientific fact. What we see too often now is stuff presented as scientific fact that is just our best current guess. This is not just specific to covid, but most prevalent.
*observation
 
There’s how many doctors in this thread telling you otherwise but lets ignore them.

Youve got it all figured out.
Plenty doctors say what I’m saying. And I can tell you there are much more people in the hospital that are struggling that have had the vaccine than is being reported. Look, I’m not saying to not get it if that’s what you want to do. I get it. There has been a lot of “Fear” pushed by the media. Just don’t force someone like me, who is extremely healthy, barley under 40, and has the antibodies, to get it. There is not reason to get it. Especially since you can still spread it and the fact that it’s not working.
 
Doc told me 99.999%of vaccinated people do not die from covid
And 99.333% of unvaccinated people do not die from covid
 
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I am not aware if they are tracking that information...
Thank you, I really wish that was something that was tracked. I think that is iportant information that would make some on the fence re-think their stance on vaccination if it was conclusively proved that severe hospilaztions were just as high for prior COVID positives, as unvaccinated first time COVID patients.
 
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There’s how many doctors in this thread telling you otherwise but lets ignore them.

Youve got it all figured out.
Bless your heart, I remember when I used to think that doctors had all the answers, and all they had to do was figure out what was wrong with a person, and then they'd be able to fix it.
 
Bless your heart, I remember when I used to think that doctors had all the answers, and all they had to do was figure out what was wrong with a person, and then they'd be able to fix it.
What are you talking about?
 
You part of a clinical trial? It will be interesting to find out more about how long immunity lasts, both for natural and vaccine-induced.
The Japanese study reports this..


Give Alex Barenson a follow on Substack if you want a lot of good Covid study information.
 
Sorry to hear. Only truth I can give you is we have 134 covid pts admitted to my hospital. 125 of those are not vaccinated.

We have 40 in ICU. 38 unvaccinated.

Those are facts. Interpret as you will.
I think anyone can throw out numbers but without a little bit more behind their actual health, genetics, and/or environment... The numbers can sure seem scary without context though.
 
Plenty doctors say what I’m saying. And I can tell you there are much more people in the hospital that are struggling that have had the vaccine than is being reported. Look, I’m not saying to not get it if that’s what you want to do. I get it. There has been a lot of “Fear” pushed by the media. Just don’t force someone like me, who is extremely healthy, barley under 40, and has the antibodies, to get it. There is not reason to get it. Especially since you can still spread it and the fact that it’s not working.
I think you need to realize that you’re just being stubborn, despite the facts, rather than trying to convince yourself and others that not getting vaccinated when you’ve already had COVID is some kind of rational decision. It’s more risky not to get vaccinated than to get vaccinated; even if you’re not at very high risk if you’ve recently recovered from COVID, getting vaccinated will increase your immunity; given the minuscule downsides of vaccination, the very fact of social pressure in various forms means getting vaccinated is going to help you; even if you don’t care about your own health, improving your immunity will make it less likely the disease will spread.
 
As of 8/2/2021, in South Carolina (according to DHEC). Here are some of the stats since the beginning of COVID:

-64.8% overall Deaths with Comorbidities
-9,930 overall Deaths
-103 Deaths Ages 31-40
-36 Deaths 21-30
-9 Deaths 11-20
-0 Deaths below age 11
How many deaths from adverse reactions to the experimental treatment?
 
I’m certainly not discounting that point, but I bet if you looked at the broad population of people with Covid in hospitals right now, most would be unvaxxed and not by a small margin.
One theme you’ll notice is that anomalous anecdotes are usually shared by people who have an agenda. I don’t know if they are just always looking for information that will prove whatever they want to think, or if they’re reading their agenda into the world around them. But it’s not just innocent sharing of observations.
 
Getting to the point where’s it’s hard to feel bad for those ignoring medical science.

96% of dr’s in this country are vaccinated. The same folks that take care of you when you get the virus!

It’s just ignorance at this point.
Or perhaps the people you are referring to just aren't lazy and believe what they hear, investigate for themselves and have the ability to make rational decisions without someone else telling them to do so.

The great part of this sham is no one really knows who controls the numbers and data. Do the hospitals that get paid for treating Covid keep the numbers? The CDC? The White House? All of them?

A couple of the things we do know

- The Flu disappeared - in the past we were told nothing we can do for the flu but ride it out, get your fever and get better, now what we have been told since we are kids no longer applies? Viruses suddenly changed?

Why weren't kids wearing masks to combat the flu during flu season in schools?

Until China lets everyone know what's in the viral cocktail it's anyone's guess as to whether or not this bio-weapon can be controlled.

Fauci is a damn liar and helped create this virus, so maybe more people should demand some answers from him.

Also conveniently happened during a pretty major election in the history of our country, has been used to divide us, and apparently has no end in sight. What do you know, just like all the other viruses.

My choice to get a vaccine is of nobody's concern and I don't give 2 shits if anyone is or isn't. And to the doctors complaining about being too busy, give me a break. These people are some of the worst value occupations for what they supply, especially general medicine or family practice. Come in we will take some blood, get your height and weight, and prescribe you some medicine based on how your blood looks. If people would just read, the answers are all there for how to beat anything or help your body fight anything.

Oh well, just another side rant that only helps my own spirit. Most of y'all will continue to adhere to compliance and listening to the masses. I will be glad to be judged when my time is up, until then I am going to continue bringing other perspectives because discernment starts with asking questions.
 
Or perhaps the people you are referring to just aren't lazy and believe what they hear, investigate for themselves and have the ability to make rational decisions without someone else telling them to do so.

The great part of this sham is no one really knows who controls the numbers and data. Do the hospitals that get paid for treating Covid keep the numbers? The CDC? The White House? All of them?

A couple of the things we do know

- The Flu disappeared - in the past we were told nothing we can do for the flu but ride it out, get your fever and get better, now what we have been told since we are kids no longer applies? Viruses suddenly changed?

Why weren't kids wearing masks to combat the flu during flu season in schools?

Until China lets everyone know what's in the viral cocktail it's anyone's guess as to whether or not this bio-weapon can be controlled.

Fauci is a damn liar and helped create this virus, so maybe more people should demand some answers from him.

Also conveniently happened during a pretty major election in the history of our country, has been used to divide us, and apparently has no end in sight. What do you know, just like all the other viruses.

My choice to get a vaccine is of nobody's concern and I don't give 2 shits if anyone is or isn't. And to the doctors complaining about being too busy, give me a break. These people are some of the worst value occupations for what they supply, especially general medicine or family practice. Come in we will take some blood, get your height and weight, and prescribe you some medicine based on how your blood looks. If people would just read, the answers are all there for how to beat anything or help your body fight anything.

Oh well, just another side rant that only helps my own spirit. Most of y'all will continue to adhere to compliance and listening to the masses. I will be glad to be judged when my time is up, until then I am going to continue bringing other perspectives because discernment starts with asking questions.
Just curious what education you’re privy to that disputes the 96% of vaccinated medical doctors in the country?
 
according to facebook, millions.
Don't you think it would be nice to know this information, so people can make the best decisions for themselves? Or are we just supposed to select the data that drums up the most fear? Facebook is likely part of the problem yet they do not have qualified individuals fact checking either and it is leading to less and less trust.

Have you seen the Harvard virologist speak, big fan of vaccines, but not of these because of the "leaky vaccine" theories that have not had enough time to be proven.

Peer reviewed studies in medical journals is all we should trust, just like with past vaccines. Doctors have opinions, so do lawyers, so do other experts in their fields.

I can tell though that on every football team over over 100 players, there are typically only 1 or 2 true standouts that could operate without a team around them and still succeed. Doctors are no different. For every 1000 doctors there might be 1 that is elite and have the skills necessary to tell us any information unequivocally about this virus. People will believe what they want to believe or obey for fear of retribution from their employer or peers. I do not fear death and therefore am free, you should try it sometime and truly mean it.
 
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Don't you think it would be nice to know this information, so people can make the best decisions for themselves? Or are we just supposed to select the data that drums up the most fear? Facebook is likely part of the problem yet they do not have qualified individuals fact checking either and it is leading to less and less trust.

Have you seen the Harvard virologist speak, big fan of vaccines, but not of these because of the "leaky vaccine" theories that have not had enough time to be proven.

Peer reviewed studies in medical journals is all we should trust, just like with past vaccines. Doctors have opinions, so do lawyers, so do other experts in their fields.

I can tell though that on every football team over over 100 players, there are typically only 1 or 2 true standouts that could operate without a team around them and still succeed. Doctors are no different. For every 1000 doctors there might be 1 that is elite and have the skills necessary to tell us any information unequivocally about this virus. People will believe what they want to believe or obey for fear of retribution from their employer or peers. I do not fear death and therefore am free, you should try it sometime and truly mean it.
you are actually retarded. do you think leaky vaccines are the issue or the huge percentage of the country not getting them? are you aware 95% > 51% or should we get calculus brain in here for this?
 
I think you need to realize that you’re just being stubborn, despite the facts, rather than trying to convince yourself and others that not getting vaccinated when you’ve already had COVID is some kind of rational decision. It’s more risky not to get vaccinated than to get vaccinated; even if you’re not at very high risk if you’ve recently recovered from COVID, getting vaccinated will increase your immunity; given the minuscule downsides of vaccination, the very fact of social pressure in various forms means getting vaccinated is going to help you; even if you don’t care about your own health, improving your immunity will make it less likely the disease will spread.
That really tells me about who you are and your mindset. Sad really
 
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That really tells me about who you are and your mindset. Sad really
I’m sure you’re misconstruing what I said, but when you’re just being stubborn about something and there’s no good reason not to do it, and when doing that thing will prevent you from running into social barriers (having to wear masks, being allowed to participate in certain things, etc.), then not having to deal with social pressure is a reason to do it. I certainly hope that I would realize when I’m just being stubborn, and not doing something just because other people want me to. That’s no better than only doing something because it’s what everybody else is doing, and my more important point is it’s especially not better when there are so many reasons to do get vaccinated.
 
Can anyone go to Greenwood to get the booster? Do you have to make an appointment?
Curious about this too. I read somewhere that the 3rd jab right now is limited to those folks with immunosuppression issues (cancer, transplants, etc.) but NOT yet available to folks at "high risk" for other reasons.
 
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Curious about this too. I read somewhere that the 3rd jab right now is limited to those folks with immunosuppression issues (cancer, transplants, etc.) but NOT yet available to folks at "high risk" for other reasons.
I'm being told as of today that you need a doctor's note to get the booster. That differs from last week so i don't know what changed. I sent my parents thru the line end of last week and they both got boosters with no note or anything.
 
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That’s a fair response . However
I’m sure you’re misconstruing what I said, but when you’re just being stubborn about something and there’s no good reason not to do it, and when doing that thing will prevent you from running into social barriers (having to wear masks, being allowed to participate in certain things, etc.), then not having to deal with social pressure is a reason to do it. I certainly hope that I would realize when I’m just being stubborn, and not doing something just because other people want me to. That’s no better than only doing something because it’s what everybody else is doing, and my more important point is it’s especially not better when there are so many reasons to do get vaccinated.
That’s a fair response . However I do not think that a young healthy adult that has natural immunity “opting out” is simply being stubborn. They are trusting in their natural immunity, have done a personal risk assessment, and chosen not to get the vaccine. Social pressure be damned.
 
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you are actually retarded. do you think leaky vaccines are the issue or the huge percentage of the country not getting them? are you aware 95% > 51% or should we get calculus brain in here for this?
New study shows

 
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New study shows

Lol, The problem is 47 PHDs not getting vaccinated rather than the 100 million with HS or less education. We really should get Mr. Calculus.
 
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