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Didnt say anything about Joe. I was talking about the irresponsible "adult" we have as sitting president.

That irresponsible adult you're talking about shut down travel and had US doctors queued up to go there to help/learn before you even knew anything was happening. Get over yourself, bud.
 
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That irresponsible adult you're talking about shut down travel and had US doctors queued up to go there to help/learn before you even knew anything was happening. Get over yourself, bud.

Haha no he didnt. We had a 2 month head start on the rest of the world. He instead made a joke of it, didnt consult doctors or scientists to prepare for it.

I swear some of yall really have to turn off Fox News. Its warping your brains
 
Haha no he didnt. We had a 2 month head start on the rest of the world. He instead made a joke of it, didnt consult doctors or scientists to prepare for it.

I swear some of yall really have to turn off Fox News. Its warping your brains


ahhhh, the old Fox News argument. Man, you're good.
What he did was cut off travel from Asia immediately. And desperately tried to get our docs over there but naturally China wasn't having any of that. And he put Mike Pence in charge of figuring it all out. Brilliant move to have a legit Project Manager mentality run the task force. Genius. Good project managers are far more effective running a task force made up of multiple high powered, ego-driven medical experts than doctors or scientists. Oh wait. You think only scientists know how to manage science problems. Yeah, I see, you're not very experienced. That's okay.
 
ahhhh, the old Fox News argument. Man, you're good.
What he did was cut off travel from Asia immediately. And desperately tried to get our docs over there but naturally China wasn't having any of that. And he put Mike Pence in charge of figuring it all out. Brilliant move to have a legit Project Manager mentality run the task force. Genius. Good project managers are far more effective running a task force made up of multiple high powered, ego-driven medical experts than doctors or scientists. Oh wait. You think only scientists know how to manage science problems. Yeah, I see, you're not very experienced. That's okay.
He also said the stock market was looking good in the last week of February which I found to be irresponsible and self serving at best. It's ok to not agree with his every move. he's not alone in the fact that his primary concern is getting re-elected
 
ahhhh, the old Fox News argument. Man, you're good.
What he did was cut off travel from Asia immediately. And desperately tried to get our docs over there but naturally China wasn't having any of that. And he put Mike Pence in charge of figuring it all out. Brilliant move to have a legit Project Manager mentality run the task force. Genius. Good project managers are far more effective running a task force made up of multiple high powered, ego-driven medical experts than doctors or scientists. Oh wait. You think only scientists know how to manage science problems. Yeah, I see, you're not very experienced. That's okay.

Pandemic but lets put in charge a guy who tried to pray way AIDS instead of using a doctor who might know what the **** they are talking about.
 
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I’m Amy and I rustle clemsontyger04 jimmies all the time. He’s such a snowflake. He doesn’t know it’s possible to disagree with something he sees on the internet and scroll on by.

Im not rustled at all. I just find it hilarious you post on a sports board and 95% of your posts arent about sports. Now go get some funny meme you saw on your facebook timeline to respond with.
 
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Pence is a clown. Trump is a clown. Our government is being ran by clowns.

I understand real world management. I also understand that we kicked out the adults who know how to manage and were left with clowns.

Understand real world management? You don’t even understand English. Our government is being “run” not ran.
 
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. - Abraham Lincoln

So what I'm hearing is that President Trump should not have given the speech last night? Because THAT was a freaking disaster. A prepared speech with no questions to answer. All he has to do is read the Teleprompter... But nope, the White House has to spend the next day "clarifying".

Can you imagine being an American trying to get back home and the President telling you all travel between Europe and the US is suspended? That would be a BAD feeling.

Probably the worst one was that your insurance companies were going to pay for your deductables for coronas virus
 
So what I'm hearing is that President Trump should not have given the speech last night? Because THAT was a freaking disaster. A prepared speech with no questions to answer. All he has to do is read the Teleprompter... But nope, the White House has to spend the next day "clarifying".

Can you imagine being an American trying to get back home and the President telling you all travel between Europe and the US is suspended? That would be a BAD feeling.

Probably the worst one was that your insurance companies were going to pay for your deductables for coronas virus

Flights out of Paris this morning were 20k because they were believed to be the last ones to the US.
 
He's all over his dementia epidemic. It's spreading every time he opens his mouth!
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”
 
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”

This is a primary example of WHY his base loves him. It's not a matter of thinking. You can point out the above. You can point out his lies and corruption. You point out whatever and it makes no difference to his base. As Trump himself said. "I could go out into the street and shoot someone and wouldn't lose a single vote". And it's true. The problem I have is that I try and argue from a logical standpoint. That doesn't work. But I keep doing it anyway. Which says something about me that's not flattering... Doing the same thing over and over again and somehow expecting a different result. The problem is that I'm a facts/science driven guy. If someone could convince me with facts and logic that I was wrong about Trump the whole time... I'd change and vote for Trump. It's just the way I'm put together. But that's not the way his followers operate.

My family is pretty darn conservative and they LOVE Trump. They fully believe it when they tell me that Trump is a straight shooter and tells it like it is. I can point out the lying and scumbags he surrounds himself with all day long. It just bounces off. They nod and smile and say the same thing the next day.

There's no thinking or logic involved, it's a matter of faith. His followers BELIEVE in Donald Trump the same way they believe in Jesus. This is the same kind of thing that let Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Baker get rich. These guys told everyone how great and good they were at serving the Lord. And in spite of it being obvious to EVERYONE else, that these guys were lining their own pockets, they packed HUGE venues for years. There's plenty of folks out there today that STILL think both guys got a raw deal. These type folks make up a LOT of Trump's base.

Now there are also some really smart folks out there that support Trump as well. And some of them are on this board. They are convinced (with good reason) that this country is going to hell in a handbasket. They are focused on building wealth for themselves and their families period. Everything else is secondary. There's no doubt that Trump will help them on their way. THIS I can actually respect. I don't agree with it, but I respect it. But the folks that think Trump is a godly man or cares about the country? Please....
 
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No Presidential election and Trump will remain President for another 4 years.
Watch how fast epidemic is cleared.
I've debated you, I've supported you, I've empathised with you. This is just a dumb ****ing position. Our founding fathers would be appalled.

Don't read this and just start typing. Back up, ignore your impulses. Take a day or two, think it through and then maybe respond.
 
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