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Schumer Says Senate will Vote to Ditch Filibuster to Advance ‘Voting Rights’ Bill – Making it Easier for Democrats to Steal Elections

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This is part of what an attempted takeover by communists looks like. If this happens, we are finished as a free republic governed by the will of the people. The dirty dems know they will get steamrolled in historic fashion in the next midterms without being able to cheat. We literally have to pray that Manchin and Sinema will continue their non support of this move.


By Cristina Laila
Published January 3, 2022 at 3:50pm
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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on Monday said the senate will vote later this month on whether to change filibuster rules to make it easier to pass a ‘voting rights’ bill.
The voting rights legislation will mandate ballot harvesting, ban voter ID and give taxpayer money to campaigns.
The new bill will make it easier for Democrats to steal elections which is why Schumer wants to nuke the filibuster to ram it through Congress before the midterms.


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The Democrats tried to pass this voting bill FOUR TIMES last year and were blocked by Republicans.
The Dems are not backing down and Schumer said he’s eyeing a change to the filibuster to move this bill forward.
“Much like the violent insurrectionists who stormed the U.S. Capitol nearly one year ago, Republican officials in states across the country have seized on the former president’s Big Lie about widespread voter fraud to enact anti-democratic legislation,” Schumer said in a letter to Democratic senators on Monday. “We can and must take strong action to stop this anti-democratic march.”
Years ago Schumer said killing the filibuster was the “rubber stamp of dictatorship” and a “doomsday for democracy.”
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Both Democrat Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have stated they will not vote to eliminate the filibuster.
 

Demon Spawn: Jan. 6 Protests an Attack on Democracy – Therefore We Need Ballot Harvesting, Midnight Drop Boxes, No Election Observers and No Voter ID Laws​

By Jim Hoft
Published January 6, 2022 at 3:30pm
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If they can’t cheat, they can’t win.
Demon spawn Alexander Soros used the anniversary of the January 6 protests to push the Democrats’ election stealing legislation.

The Democrats want mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting, midnight dropboxes, no election observers and no voter ID laws.
They want to legislate stealing.
Son of Soros wants this legislation rammed through immediately.
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Oh would love to hear why you think this voting rights bill shouldn't pass.

I'm referring to him stopping the democrats from nuking the filibuster. Do you really think the elimination of the filibuster is a good idea?

Joe Manchin is the only thing keeping us from a largely unpopular, multi-trillion dollar expansion of entitlements. He and maybe one other democrat are the only thing that stands in the way of the left fundamentally transforming how legislation is passed in the senate. This is also largely unpopular and almost every senior member of the democrat party has spoken out against abolishing the filibuster at some point.

God bless Joe Manchin.
 
I'm referring to him stopping the democrats from nuking the filibuster. Do you really think the elimination of the filibuster is a good idea?

Joe Manchin is the only thing keeping us from a largely unpopular, multi-trillion dollar expansion of entitlements. He and maybe one other democrat are the only thing that stands in the way of the left fundamentally transforming how legislation is passed in the senate. This is also largely unpopular and almost every senior member of the democrat party has spoken out against abolishing the filibuster at some point.

God bless Joe Manchin.
You keep saying this but you need to qualify that it's not popular with you :)

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Oh would love to hear why you think this voting rights bill shouldn't pass.
... some of it I would agree with, some I do not. If the voting rights bill included the requirement to show ID to prove citizenship and to prove you are who you say you are, then I would be mostly for it. I would also be for standardizing to a national ballot and/or to electronic voting. There is NO reason for paper ballots anymore and only limited cases where voting needs to be done in person. For the most part it can be done electronically..... 1 electronic ballot per social security number.

Im also not a fan of same day voter registration. If you cant find the time to register to vote in 2 or 4 years, youre not responsible enough to vote. I said what I said.

I also am not a fan of a Political party changing rules when they dont get their way .....spare me the "whataboutism", Im quite aware that both Repubs and Dems do that .... but nuking the filibuster ..... is NOT a good idea.
 
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Interesting. How popular is it among those who will pay for it? And we know isn't popular in the senate, with the majority being opposed to it.
I'm sure it's wildly unpopular among 1.8% of the population

*Edit - and of course it's not popular in the Republican senate because Trump will try to have them primaried if they vote for any Democrat led legislation. But just like the infrastructure bill, they won't vote for it but they'll sing like a canary to their constituents about the great benefits they delivered to their states.
 
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I'm sure it's wildly unpopular among 1.8% of the population

*Edit - and of course it's not popular in the Republican senate because Trump will try to have them primaried if they vote for any Democrat led legislation. But just like the infrastructure bill, they won't vote for it but they'll sing like a canary to their constituents about the great benefits they delivered to their states.

Senate is 50/50 with dem tiebreaker. It still can't pass. And there appear to be some democratic senators who are relieved that Manchin is taking the heat for blocking it, so they don't have to vote for it.

Republicans aren't voting against BBB because of Trump. They are voting against it because we don't need a multi-trillion spending bill and expansion of entitlements when we have high inflation and a tight labor market. It's really stupid.
 
Don't worry, looks like Chuck and Nancy were able to get Justice Sotomayor to leave her bunker for dinner to discuss how they can work around it. Too bad she wasn't able to attend the vaccine mandate hearings in person though........not sure how she could possibly have such a nice meal with those 100,000 kids on ventilators.

 
I do believe the dirty dems know they will be streamrolled in the midterms short of passing HR1.
 
Build back broke?? Are we talking about the rampant spending under the Trump admin or was that the Bush admin? Repubs love to spend just as much.

Is it so awful that that bill would've put money back in the pockets of poor and middle class Americans? The expanded child tax credit was the best thing the govt has done in years.

But Growls why do you think HR1 is so evil--what is unethical about it? There isn't a shred of proof that it would make it easier to commit voter fraud.
 
Build back broke?? Are we talking about the rampant spending under the Trump admin or was that the Bush admin? Repubs love to spend just as much.

Is it so awful that that bill would've put money back in the pockets of poor and middle class Americans? The expanded child tax credit was the best thing the govt has done in years.

But Growls why do you think HR1 is so evil--what is unethical about it? There isn't a shred of proof that it would make it easier to commit voter fraud.
Passing that huge monolith of waste just because it has a few good parts in it is not justified.

HR1 is a radical plan to federalize all elections forcing universal mail in voting and making it next to impossible to verify voter id. These few things are just the tip of the iceberg. Passing HR1 would be an act of war on the constitutional republic.
 
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Don't worry, looks like Chuck and Nancy were able to get Justice Sotomayor to leave her bunker for dinner to discuss how they can work around it. Too bad she wasn't able to attend the vaccine mandate hearings in person though........not sure how she could possibly have such a nice meal with those 100,000 kids on ventilators.

 
Build back broke?? Are we talking about the rampant spending under the Trump admin or was that the Bush admin? Repubs love to spend just as much.

Is it so awful that that bill would've put money back in the pockets of poor and middle class Americans? The expanded child tax credit was the best thing the govt has done in years.

But Growls why do you think HR1 is so evil--what is unethical about it? There isn't a shred of proof that it would make it easier to commit voter fraud.

Bush and Trump certainly overspent. We need some real fiscal responsibility in DC. Both sides are pretty bad right now with one obviously wanting to spend at absurd levels and grow the scope of government.

And what do you mean “back” in their pockets? The poor and lower middle class pay almost no taxes. They barely contribute to the federal coffers. I’m not sure what we would be giving them “back.”
 
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Passing that huge monolith of waste just because it has a few good parts in it is not justified.

HR1 is a radical plan to federalize all elections forcing universal mail in voting and making it next to impossible to verify voter id. These few things are just the tip of the iceberg. Passing HR1 would be an act of war on the constitutional republic.

You definitely understand what's in the bill. Totally.
 

These guys, also totally understand what's in the bill. Theyve definitely read it and know how each provision work. Super obvious from this hard hitting analysis. They get it.
 
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Despite the absolute idiocy displayed by Republican talking heads and their idiotic followers, this bill is not gonna pass. We should all move on with our lives.
 
Beautiful day!!


Sinema Deals Fatal Blow to Democrats’ ‘Voting Rights’ Bill Two Days After Biden Calls on Senate to Nuke Filibuster (VIDEO)​

By Cristina Laila
Published January 13, 2022 at 3:25pm
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Democrat Senator Kyrsten Sinema (AZ) nuked Joe Biden’s agenda on Thursday.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on Tuesday traveled to Atlanta, Georgia to push the Democrats’ ‘voting rights’ bill that will make it easier for them to steal elections.
Biden and Harris called on the Senate to nuke the filibuster in order to pass a federal takeover of elections.
Sinema delivered a fiery speech from the Senate floor and reiterated her support for the filibuster rule.
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“There’s no need for me to restate my longstanding support for the 60-vote threshold to pass legislation. There’s no need for me to restate its role in protecting our country from wild reversals of federal policy,” Sinema said. “This week’s harried discussions about Senate rules are but a poor substitute for what I believe could have and should have been a thoughtful public debate at any time over the past year.”
“I will not support separate actions that worsen the underlying disease of division infecting our country,” Sinema said.
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Manchin agreed with Sinema and said her speech was “excellent.”


Today has been a bad day for the Biden Regime.
Sinema and Manchin won’t budge on the filibuster rule and the Supreme Court just nuked Biden’s OSHA vax mandate.
 
God bless Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.
Nuking the filibuster is quite possibly the stupidest proposal in a very long list of stupid proposals ever ....proposed

Only reason you would propose such a thing is if you knew OR had high confidence that your political party would never be in the minority again. and my God ..... if Dems didnt feel the filibuster was needed, why did they use it 327 times in 2020?

Sinema was spot on, Biden does NOT have a mandate to do the things that he is trying to do. The "mandate" is, calm the F* down, work together, and come up with "solutions" that both sides hate. Legislation that both Repubs and Dems equally hate is a win for the American people.

Just amazing and perplexing to me ...
 
Nuking the filibuster is quite possibly the stupidest proposal in a very long list of stupid proposals ever ....proposed

Only reason you would propose such a thing is if you knew OR had high confidence that your political party would never be in the minority again. and my God ..... if Dems didnt feel the filibuster was needed, why did they use it 327 times in 2020?

Sinema was spot on, Biden does NOT have a mandate to do the things that he is trying to do. The "mandate" is, calm the F* down, work together, and come up with "solutions" that both sides hate. Legislation that both Repubs and Dems equally hate is a win for the American people.

Just amazing and perplexing to me ...
Voting Rights should not be up for debate and is one of the few issues that should be considered for a carve out. Let's not forget that Mitch McConnell used it several times to ram through Supreme Court nominees. I'll let the below article speak for itself.


January 12, 2022​


The struggle between the Trump-backed forces of authoritarianism and those of us defending democracy is coming down to the fight over whether the Democrats can get the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act through the Senate.

It’s worth reading what’s actually in the bills because, to my mind, it is bananas that they are in any way controversial.

The Freedom to Vote Act is a trimmed version of the For the People Act the House passed at the beginning of this congressional session. It establishes a baseline for access to the ballot across all states. That baseline includes at least two weeks of early voting for any town of more than 3000 people, including on nights and weekends, for at least 10 hours a day. It permits people to vote by mail, or to drop their ballots into either a polling place or a drop box, and guarantees those votes will be counted so long as they are postmarked on or before Election Day and arrive at the polling place within a week. It makes Election Day a holiday. It provides uniform standards for voter IDs in states that require them.

The Freedom to Vote Act cracks down on voter suppression. It makes it a federal crime to lie to voters in order to deter them from voting (distributing official-looking flyers with the wrong dates for an election or locations of a polling place, for example), and it increases the penalties for voter intimidation. It restores federal voting rights for people who have served time in jail, creating a uniform system out of the current patchwork one.

It requires states to guarantee that no one has to wait more than 30 minutes to vote.

Using measures already in place in a number of states, the Freedom to Vote Act provides uniform voter registration rules. It establishes automatic voter registration at state Departments of Motor Vehicles, permits same-day voter registration, allows online voter registration, and protects voters from the purges that have plagued voting registrations for decades now, requiring that voters be notified if they are dropped from the rolls and given information on how to get back on them.

The Freedom to Vote Act bans partisan gerrymandering.

The Freedom to Vote Act requires any entity that spends more than $10,000 in an election to disclose all its major donors, thus cleaning up dark money in politics. It requires all advertisements to identify who is paying for them. It makes it harder for political action committees (PACs) to coordinate with candidates, and it beefs up the power of the Federal Election Commission that ensures candidates run their campaigns legally.

The Freedom to Vote Act also addresses the laws Republican-dominated states have passed in the last year to guarantee that Republicans win future elections. It protects local election officers from intimidation and firing for partisan purposes. It expands penalties for tampering with ballots after an election (as happened in Maricopa County, Arizona, where the Cyber Ninjas investigating the results did not use standard protection for them and have been unable to produce documents for a freedom of information lawsuit, leading to fines of $50,000 a day and the company’s dissolution). If someone does tamper with the results or refuses to certify them, voters can sue.

The act also prevents attempts to overturn elections by requiring audits after elections, making sure those audits have clearly defined rules and procedures. And it prohibits voting machines that don’t leave a paper record.

The John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act (VRAA) takes on issues of discrimination in voting by updating and restoring the 1965 Voting Rights Act (VRA) that the Supreme Court gutted in 2013 and 2021. The VRA required that states with a history of discrimination in voting get the Department of Justice to approve any changes they wanted to make in their voting laws before they went into effect, and in the 2013 Shelby County v. Holder decision, the Supreme Court struck that requirement down, in part because the justices felt the formula in the law was outdated.

The VRAA provides a new, modern formula for determining which states need preapproval, based on how many voting rights violations they’ve had in the past 25 years. After ten years without violations, they will no longer need preclearance. It also establishes some practices that must always be cleared, such as getting rid of ballots printed in different languages (as required in the U.S. since 1975).

The VRAA also restores the ability of voters to sue if their rights are violated, something the 2021 Brnovich v. Democratic National Committee decision makes difficult.

The VRAA directly addresses the ability of Indigenous Americans, who face unique voting problems, to vote. It requires at least one polling place on tribal lands, for example, and requires states to accept tribal or federal IDs.

That’s it.

It is off-the-charts astonishing that no Republicans are willing to entertain these common-sense measures, especially since there are in the Senate a number of Republicans who voted in 2006 to reauthorize the 1965 Voting Rights Act the VRAA is designed to restore.

McConnell today revealed his discomfort with President Joe Biden’s speech yesterday at the Atlanta University Center Consortium, when Biden pointed out that “[h]istory has never been kind to those who have sided with voter suppression over voters’ rights. And it will be even less kind for those who side with election subversion.” Biden asked Republican senators to choose between our history’s advocates of voting rights and those who opposed such rights. He asked: “Do you want to be…on the side of Dr. King or George Wallace? Do you want to be on the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor? Do you want to be on the side of Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?

Today, McConnell, who never complained about the intemperate speeches of former president Donald Trump, said Biden’s speech revealed him to be "profoundly, profoundly unpresidential."

The voting rights measures appear to have the support of the Senate Democrats, but because of the Senate filibuster, which makes it possible for senators to block any measure unless a supermajority of 60 senators are willing to vote for it, voting rights cannot pass unless Democrats are willing to figure out a way to bypass the filibuster. Two Democratic senators—Krysten Sinema (D-AZ) and Joe Manchin (D-WV)—are currently unwilling to do that.

Nine Democratic senators eager to pass this measure met with Sinema for two and a half hours last night and for another hour with Manchin this morning in an attempt to get them to a place where they are willing to change the rules of the Senate filibuster to protect our right to vote. They have not yet found a solution.

This evening, Senate Majority Leader Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) announced that he would bring voting rights legislation to the Senate floor for debate—which Republicans have rejected—by avoiding a Republican filibuster through a complicated workaround. When the House and Senate disagree on a bill (which is almost always), they send it back and forth with revisions until they reach a final version. According to Democracy Docket, after it has gone back and forth three times, a motion to proceed on it cannot be filibustered. So, Democrats in the House are going to take a bill that has already hit the three-trip mark and substitute for that bill the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. They’ll pass the combined bill and send it to the Senate, where debate over it can’t be filibustered.

And so, Republican senators will have to explain to the people why they oppose what appear to be common-sense voting rules.
 
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Voting Rights should not be up for debate and is one of the few issues that should be considered for a carve out. Let's not forget that Mitch McConnell used it several times to ram through Supreme Court nominees. I'll let the below article speak for itself.


January 12, 2022​


The struggle between the Trump-backed forces of authoritarianism and those of us defending democracy is coming down to the fight over whether the Democrats can get the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act through the Senate.

It’s worth reading what’s actually in the bills because, to my mind, it is bananas that they are in any way controversial.

The Freedom to Vote Act is a trimmed version of the For the People Act the House passed at the beginning of this congressional session. It establishes a baseline for access to the ballot across all states. That baseline includes at least two weeks of early voting for any town of more than 3000 people, including on nights and weekends, for at least 10 hours a day. It permits people to vote by mail, or to drop their ballots into either a polling place or a drop box, and guarantees those votes will be counted so long as they are postmarked on or before Election Day and arrive at the polling place within a week. It makes Election Day a holiday. It provides uniform standards for voter IDs in states that require them.

The Freedom to Vote Act cracks down on voter suppression. It makes it a federal crime to lie to voters in order to deter them from voting (distributing official-looking flyers with the wrong dates for an election or locations of a polling place, for example), and it increases the penalties for voter intimidation. It restores federal voting rights for people who have served time in jail, creating a uniform system out of the current patchwork one.

It requires states to guarantee that no one has to wait more than 30 minutes to vote.

Using measures already in place in a number of states, the Freedom to Vote Act provides uniform voter registration rules. It establishes automatic voter registration at state Departments of Motor Vehicles, permits same-day voter registration, allows online voter registration, and protects voters from the purges that have plagued voting registrations for decades now, requiring that voters be notified if they are dropped from the rolls and given information on how to get back on them.

The Freedom to Vote Act bans partisan gerrymandering.

The Freedom to Vote Act requires any entity that spends more than $10,000 in an election to disclose all its major donors, thus cleaning up dark money in politics. It requires all advertisements to identify who is paying for them. It makes it harder for political action committees (PACs) to coordinate with candidates, and it beefs up the power of the Federal Election Commission that ensures candidates run their campaigns legally.

The Freedom to Vote Act also addresses the laws Republican-dominated states have passed in the last year to guarantee that Republicans win future elections. It protects local election officers from intimidation and firing for partisan purposes. It expands penalties for tampering with ballots after an election (as happened in Maricopa County, Arizona, where the Cyber Ninjas investigating the results did not use standard protection for them and have been unable to produce documents for a freedom of information lawsuit, leading to fines of $50,000 a day and the company’s dissolution). If someone does tamper with the results or refuses to certify them, voters can sue.

The act also prevents attempts to overturn elections by requiring audits after elections, making sure those audits have clearly defined rules and procedures. And it prohibits voting machines that don’t leave a paper record.

The John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act (VRAA) takes on issues of discrimination in voting by updating and restoring the 1965 Voting Rights Act (VRA) that the Supreme Court gutted in 2013 and 2021. The VRA required that states with a history of discrimination in voting get the Department of Justice to approve any changes they wanted to make in their voting laws before they went into effect, and in the 2013 Shelby County v. Holder decision, the Supreme Court struck that requirement down, in part because the justices felt the formula in the law was outdated.

The VRAA provides a new, modern formula for determining which states need preapproval, based on how many voting rights violations they’ve had in the past 25 years. After ten years without violations, they will no longer need preclearance. It also establishes some practices that must always be cleared, such as getting rid of ballots printed in different languages (as required in the U.S. since 1975).

The VRAA also restores the ability of voters to sue if their rights are violated, something the 2021 Brnovich v. Democratic National Committee decision makes difficult.

The VRAA directly addresses the ability of Indigenous Americans, who face unique voting problems, to vote. It requires at least one polling place on tribal lands, for example, and requires states to accept tribal or federal IDs.

That’s it.

It is off-the-charts astonishing that no Republicans are willing to entertain these common-sense measures, especially since there are in the Senate a number of Republicans who voted in 2006 to reauthorize the 1965 Voting Rights Act the VRAA is designed to restore.

McConnell today revealed his discomfort with President Joe Biden’s speech yesterday at the Atlanta University Center Consortium, when Biden pointed out that “[h]istory has never been kind to those who have sided with voter suppression over voters’ rights. And it will be even less kind for those who side with election subversion.” Biden asked Republican senators to choose between our history’s advocates of voting rights and those who opposed such rights. He asked: “Do you want to be…on the side of Dr. King or George Wallace? Do you want to be on the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor? Do you want to be on the side of Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?

Today, McConnell, who never complained about the intemperate speeches of former president Donald Trump, said Biden’s speech revealed him to be "profoundly, profoundly unpresidential."

The voting rights measures appear to have the support of the Senate Democrats, but because of the Senate filibuster, which makes it possible for senators to block any measure unless a supermajority of 60 senators are willing to vote for it, voting rights cannot pass unless Democrats are willing to figure out a way to bypass the filibuster. Two Democratic senators—Krysten Sinema (D-AZ) and Joe Manchin (D-WV)—are currently unwilling to do that.

Nine Democratic senators eager to pass this measure met with Sinema for two and a half hours last night and for another hour with Manchin this morning in an attempt to get them to a place where they are willing to change the rules of the Senate filibuster to protect our right to vote. They have not yet found a solution.

This evening, Senate Majority Leader Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) announced that he would bring voting rights legislation to the Senate floor for debate—which Republicans have rejected—by avoiding a Republican filibuster through a complicated workaround. When the House and Senate disagree on a bill (which is almost always), they send it back and forth with revisions until they reach a final version. According to Democracy Docket, after it has gone back and forth three times, a motion to proceed on it cannot be filibustered. So, Democrats in the House are going to take a bill that has already hit the three-trip mark and substitute for that bill the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. They’ll pass the combined bill and send it to the Senate, where debate over it can’t be filibustered.

And so, Republican senators will have to explain to the people why they oppose what appear to be common-sense voting rules.
Ya see ...(the bold)this is where you and I fundamentally disagree. I dont believe that what is all in the Voting Rights Act is "common sense".

I dont agree with or dont understand the opposition too:
- requiring a ID to vote.
- disagree with unrequested mail in ballots. If you want to vote by mail, ok, request a ballot to be sent to your address
- ballot harvesting. Ballot harvesting should only be applicable and available to individuals who are in a health care facility, in at-home medical care, or military
- same day voter registration. A individual has 2 to 4 years to register to vote. If a individual cant find the time to register within that time frame .... I dont know if they are responsible enough to vote. I said what I said. If your 18th birthday falls on election day, I dont see any reason why you cant register to vote before your birthday so that you can enact your right on election day.
- ballot boxes .... I just dont see the need

^these equate to "non-starters" for most Republicans, soooooooooo find a resolution? Work across the aisle? Find a solution that both sides hate (ideally that both sides love) and draft THAT legislation. The answer here is not "Well, Im not getting my way, so Im going to change the rules, take my basketball and go home". Its the job of our Reps and Sens to disagree, argue, debate, and come to a resolution.

I mean, I would be for a standardized ballot across all States, with the ability to electronically vote. Seems like that would be simple enough to secure, regulate, and monitor. One vote per social security number .... seems like a no brainer. Why we have paper ballots, for the majority of Americans, in 2022 ... seems really silly too me.

and ya .... McConnell jammed through SCOTUS and Fed appointees but .... keep in mind the only reason he was able to do that was because Harry Reid went nuclear and made a carve out. McConnell warned him NOT to do what he did.

Getting rid of the filibuster is just ... bad .... what if in the future ... a political party that has simple majorities wants to abolish the 13th Amendment??? what then? Without the filibuster they could do it and it would be legal. Do we really ...REALLY ... want to go down that path?

Here is what I think we both can agree on ..... this utter tribalism that we are currently experiencing needs to stop. Both Repubs and a Dems are guilty of it .... the way to get rid of it is NOT to inject more partisan tribalism
 
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Despite the absolute idiocy displayed by Republican talking heads and their idiotic followers, this bill is not gonna pass. We should all move on with our lives.
about 15...18 years ago I had to give a P&L briefing on one of my services. Additionally, I had to brief how we would retain current business and capture new business. I knew what I was talking about, and the metrics I had in front of me supported my analysis and recommendations; however, the briefing to the Value Stream Leader did .... it didnt go well. I was very green in my PM role and I neglected to realize that the briefing wasnt directed at me.... I wasnt the audience .... the VSL was.

If "the people" (myself include.... probably) doesnt understand the Bill nor the provisions within it, that is not the fault of the "the people". Its the fault of the presenter, in this case .... Biden.

His presentations on this Bill have essentially been to call everyone who has questions or doesnt support it a racist and equate them to Bull Connor or George Wallace. Not a good way to get people to go out and do any kind of research OR to listen to you. Now .... if his goal was to get 50% of "the people" to say ... "uhhhhhh F* you Joe", well then ... he has been widely successful
 
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